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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35166 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 19:51:25
January 22 2014 19:50 GMT
#1601
On January 23 2014 04:49 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 04:48 Gahlo wrote:
On January 23 2014 04:39 kongoline wrote:


mind blown

Amazing, Koreans can hit skillshots!

i think u missed pretty important part of this vid

I didn't miss the smite at all.

Hell, didn't TL talk about the same exact shit early season 1 about how smite was secret OP on blitz because he could smite grab through minion block? zzz KR is years behind TL.
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
January 22 2014 19:50 GMT
#1602
Well that's just... awesome.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 22 2014 19:57 GMT
#1603
On January 23 2014 04:48 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 04:39 kongoline wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wiy_LR1IGgQ

mind blown

Amazing, Koreans can hit skillshots!


if you don't think that play was amazing Idk why you play this game because then nothing can impress you. Pretty u would have alrady fatfingered your wardjump and then jump on the minion with planning to try vayne with E only to die pathetically under tower <333
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 19:59:55
January 22 2014 19:59 GMT
#1604
On January 23 2014 03:48 Ketara wrote:
I feel like there are two people with Tolkien in their name, one of them is NA and one of them is EU, and I get confused.

Dumbass, there's only one Tolkien. The other is Swaglord Tokin the god.
God Bless
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
January 22 2014 20:01 GMT
#1605
Damn calm down yo
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 22 2014 20:04 GMT
#1606
On January 23 2014 04:57 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 04:48 Gahlo wrote:
On January 23 2014 04:39 kongoline wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wiy_LR1IGgQ

mind blown

Amazing, Koreans can hit skillshots!


if you don't think that play was amazing Idk why you play this game because then nothing can impress you. Pretty u would have alrady fatfingered your wardjump and then jump on the minion with planning to try vayne with E only to die pathetically under tower <333

Bitch pls, ward jump, Q to minion, flash E vayne. Die to eve Fusilero (Lee Sin) [All]: Worth
Glorious SEA doto
Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
January 22 2014 20:06 GMT
#1607
what's the fastest way to get to level 30 D: ?
" Perhaps it's impossible to wear an identity without becoming what you pretend to be. "
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 20:10:30
January 22 2014 20:08 GMT
#1608
Smite grab through minion block is one thing, smite on a minion that you only had vision of after you ward jump in and as you throw your Q (smiting the right one BTW to just slip the Q past) is totally beyond compare with that.

It's hard to tell if he would even have had vision that the minions were there at all, if it was pure reaction to smite after dashing in and seeing minions then that was a pure starsense play, we're talking Flash comscan tier. He could have looked at his own lanes to see minion progress but even that is still genius...
I am the Town Medic.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22069 Posts
January 22 2014 20:10 GMT
#1609
On January 23 2014 05:08 Alzadar wrote:
Smite grab through minion block is one thing, smite on a minion that you only had vision of after you ward jump in and as you throw your Q (smiting the right one BTW to just slip the Q past) is totally beyond compare with that.

It's hard to tell if he would even have had vision that the minions were there at all, if it was pure reaction to smite after dashing in then that was a pure starsense play, we're talking Flash comscan tier.

I assume he knew the minions would be there but its still very impressive to see you need to Smite to hit the Q and then get the correct one while the projectile is already flying.
Thats some godlike reflexes.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
January 22 2014 20:12 GMT
#1610
On January 23 2014 05:06 Steins;Gate wrote:
what's the fastest way to get to level 30 D: ?

Pay someone to level your account, or buy an account (I think it's like $40 now for a fresh level 30 account from one of the many booster/farmer sites?). Alternately, EXP boosts. Either way.

My opinion is that you should use the time on newbie island (or smurf island, whichever you're on) to learn the gaem, make friends, and abuse lowbie status to get experienced players to teach you.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 20:46:09
January 22 2014 20:38 GMT
#1611
In any case, I'm usually the first to call out plays that everyone else thinks are impressive as mundane/bad (e.g. everyone was so obsessed with Uzi's Vayne at Worlds even though he played so garbage it was unreal), but there's pretty much no way to not be impressed with that Lee.
I am the Town Medic.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
January 22 2014 20:50 GMT
#1612
On January 23 2014 04:48 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 04:39 kongoline wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wiy_LR1IGgQ

mind blown

Amazing, Koreans can hit skillshots!

you sound awful salty
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
IamPryda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1186 Posts
January 22 2014 21:10 GMT
#1613
On January 22 2014 23:23 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 15:58 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 22 2014 15:37 ZataN wrote:
I think the Renekton nerfs are totally needed. How is it OK that one champs whole purpose is to win laning phase without fail.

Edit: That post on reddit right now about the Renekton changes is ridiculous.

It's ok because he's not very good late. Personally, I think it's good for the game if you have champions/strats that peak at different times of the game. If every champion peaks or have the same power level throughout the game it gets boring plus it lowers variety of viable champions.

If every champion has the same power levels throughout the game, competitive teams will only pick the champions with the highest overall impact.

The problem I have observed with this is that riot really doesn't believe it. Like, imagine a Renekton that does "his job" something like winning lane, taking tower, and roaming for a dragon or a kill. That isn't that great of a job by Renekton, but it is good enough for him to be ahead of say, a Jax or Olaf pretty deep into the game. That is the real problem, IMO, they don't really get punished until super late.

If Rene can't out right win lane vs jax then it's pointless to play him. Sunfire cap/SV already hurt him anything more then a small nerf to his first 2/3 points in q and he will be benched like jayce
Moar banelings less qq
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 21:16:53
January 22 2014 21:15 GMT
#1614
On January 23 2014 05:08 Alzadar wrote:
Smite grab through minion block is one thing, smite on a minion that you only had vision of after you ward jump in and as you throw your Q (smiting the right one BTW to just slip the Q past) is totally beyond compare with that.

It's hard to tell if he would even have had vision that the minions were there at all, if it was pure reaction to smite after dashing in and seeing minions then that was a pure starsense play, we're talking Flash comscan tier. He could have looked at his own lanes to see minion progress but even that is still genius...


i think this is a good breakdown of why the play was impressive. it showcases high level mechanics, reactions, and game sense, all in kr challenger

at the same time, i can't say my response to it was as awed as to something like madlife's flash hook on kennen or faker v ryu, because while the total play is exceptional, the individual parts that made it happen are feasible for the typical 'decent' player, and i think many people could pull off this sort of play in the same way that the 'insec' was impressive at the time but has now become a staple of decent lee sins

this is way too much discussion for a fifteen second highlight
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35166 Posts
January 22 2014 21:16 GMT
#1615
On January 23 2014 05:50 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 04:48 Gahlo wrote:
On January 23 2014 04:39 kongoline wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wiy_LR1IGgQ

mind blown

Amazing, Koreans can hit skillshots!

you sound awful salty

Mostly because anything a Korean player does is circlejerked to infinity on reddit. It's gotten old.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 22 2014 21:18 GMT
#1616
On January 23 2014 06:10 IamPryda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 23:23 cLutZ wrote:
On January 22 2014 15:58 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 22 2014 15:37 ZataN wrote:
I think the Renekton nerfs are totally needed. How is it OK that one champs whole purpose is to win laning phase without fail.

Edit: That post on reddit right now about the Renekton changes is ridiculous.

It's ok because he's not very good late. Personally, I think it's good for the game if you have champions/strats that peak at different times of the game. If every champion peaks or have the same power level throughout the game it gets boring plus it lowers variety of viable champions.

If every champion has the same power levels throughout the game, competitive teams will only pick the champions with the highest overall impact.

The problem I have observed with this is that riot really doesn't believe it. Like, imagine a Renekton that does "his job" something like winning lane, taking tower, and roaming for a dragon or a kill. That isn't that great of a job by Renekton, but it is good enough for him to be ahead of say, a Jax or Olaf pretty deep into the game. That is the real problem, IMO, they don't really get punished until super late.

If Rene can't out right win lane vs jax then it's pointless to play him. Sunfire cap/SV already hurt him anything more then a small nerf to his first 2/3 points in q and he will be benched like jayce


Thats not the point. The point is if he outright wins lane vs. Jax (which is just doing what he should, by the way) that advantage persists for far too long into the game (unless Jax can Freeze the wave really deep and freefarm, which a half-decent Renekton would never allow anyways).
Freeeeeeedom
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
January 22 2014 21:18 GMT
#1617
On January 23 2014 06:10 IamPryda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 23:23 cLutZ wrote:
On January 22 2014 15:58 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 22 2014 15:37 ZataN wrote:
I think the Renekton nerfs are totally needed. How is it OK that one champs whole purpose is to win laning phase without fail.

Edit: That post on reddit right now about the Renekton changes is ridiculous.

It's ok because he's not very good late. Personally, I think it's good for the game if you have champions/strats that peak at different times of the game. If every champion peaks or have the same power level throughout the game it gets boring plus it lowers variety of viable champions.

If every champion has the same power levels throughout the game, competitive teams will only pick the champions with the highest overall impact.

The problem I have observed with this is that riot really doesn't believe it. Like, imagine a Renekton that does "his job" something like winning lane, taking tower, and roaming for a dragon or a kill. That isn't that great of a job by Renekton, but it is good enough for him to be ahead of say, a Jax or Olaf pretty deep into the game. That is the real problem, IMO, they don't really get punished until super late.

If Rene can't out right win lane vs jax then it's pointless to play him. Sunfire cap/SV already hurt him anything more then a small nerf to his first 2/3 points in q and he will be benched like jayce

The only thing hurting Jayce is the not stacking tear on form change nerf, if that was reverted you'd see him again pretty sure
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
January 22 2014 21:20 GMT
#1618
On January 23 2014 06:16 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 05:50 arb wrote:
On January 23 2014 04:48 Gahlo wrote:
On January 23 2014 04:39 kongoline wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wiy_LR1IGgQ

mind blown

Amazing, Koreans can hit skillshots!

you sound awful salty

Mostly because anything a Korean player does is circlejerked to infinity on reddit. It's gotten old.


definitely salty
TranslatorBaa!
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
January 22 2014 21:22 GMT
#1619
Fuck Jayce please nerf him more. No matter how hard you destroy him in lane he still just safely clears the wave from off screen. Give it 1/3 damage to minions and he can have his Tear and even the ridiculous release E back.
I am the Town Medic.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 22 2014 21:24 GMT
#1620
On January 23 2014 06:18 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 06:10 IamPryda wrote:
On January 22 2014 23:23 cLutZ wrote:
On January 22 2014 15:58 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 22 2014 15:37 ZataN wrote:
I think the Renekton nerfs are totally needed. How is it OK that one champs whole purpose is to win laning phase without fail.

Edit: That post on reddit right now about the Renekton changes is ridiculous.

It's ok because he's not very good late. Personally, I think it's good for the game if you have champions/strats that peak at different times of the game. If every champion peaks or have the same power level throughout the game it gets boring plus it lowers variety of viable champions.

If every champion has the same power levels throughout the game, competitive teams will only pick the champions with the highest overall impact.

The problem I have observed with this is that riot really doesn't believe it. Like, imagine a Renekton that does "his job" something like winning lane, taking tower, and roaming for a dragon or a kill. That isn't that great of a job by Renekton, but it is good enough for him to be ahead of say, a Jax or Olaf pretty deep into the game. That is the real problem, IMO, they don't really get punished until super late.

If Rene can't out right win lane vs jax then it's pointless to play him. Sunfire cap/SV already hurt him anything more then a small nerf to his first 2/3 points in q and he will be benched like jayce

The only thing hurting Jayce is the not stacking tear on form change nerf, if that was reverted you'd see him again pretty sure

Pls no, I got sick of stupidly early muramana jayces 1v5ing our team over and over.
Glorious SEA doto
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