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On January 22 2014 23:39 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 23:12 Zdrastochye wrote:On January 22 2014 22:02 Vanka wrote:On January 22 2014 21:54 Sufficiency wrote:On January 22 2014 15:36 Zdrastochye wrote:On January 22 2014 14:22 Sufficiency wrote:On January 22 2014 13:47 Zdrastochye wrote:
Well, went 9-1 in my placements, put into gold 4. Bronze I'll miss you and all you wonderful adventures we shared over the years. You were a true friend to me when I really needed it.
Blitz really is op though, 6-0 while playing at 1700 MMR with my duo buddy. I still can't believe he's never banned.<3 Meh, I think Blitzcrank is garbage now. He has a lot of problems against Leona and Thresh. In a real teamfight in this tank meta he is useless. The only thing he is good at is creating random picks... provided the opponents are dumb enough. You guys speak in hyperboles too much. Is Blitz 100% completely useless? No. Is he as strong as he was before when people played lots of squishy assassins? Of course not. Thresh is a great champion, and does many things better than Blitz, but Blitz still has some advantages (namely getting better hooks) and is therefore still viable. And I'm having success versus platinum level players this time around, not just my fellow bronzies. He is not completely useless. No one said that. But he is pretty weak right now. oh hey I just came in here to ask how you build blitz. iceborn? normal tank with randuins/spirit visage? Blitz has always been a fringe pick, the only issue for the month is that he's relatively weak in lane vs leona and thresh, both of whom are popular now. By nature of the champion blitz will always be OP in solo queue though Pretty much I rush 40% CDR after getting sightstone. Usually in the form of Talisman + FH, though Locket is a better buy if my team is facing lots of nukers rather than just sick auto attack damage. To all those who claim he's so far behind from laning phase, I'm wondering if you're just playing with terrible Blitzcranks/are terrible on Blitzcrank. You can hold the line and threaten their adc with hooks, but if you miss (which you shouldn't most of the time) then prepare to be poked down for it. I generally like to allow the lane to push into our tower and then either the jungler can gank (even if he walks past a ward you're still going to engage with a hook) or you can threaten to grab under tower and either they respect it and you get a safety buffer around your tower to last hit, or they play aggressive and you grab them and they are forced to burn flash and not do that again. I guess my success with him only works because I hit a majority of my hooks. When you're bad at hitting hooks, he's a much weaker champion. He is decent against Janna, Lulu, and Nami for sure. Vs Sona it feels like a skill match up. But his lack of pre6 burst or defense steroid makes him pretty weak against tanky support s.
Techincally, everything is a skill matchup. It's not that difficult to beat a thresh as blitz if you're hooking right either, it just depends on how you pick your engages.
Mobo boots before sightstone or sightstone first? Mobo boots or whatever the second upgrade of coin is? I feel like when you rush mobo boots it's hard to do teh full on fight, especially with a doran's start (it feels like you're wasting the dorans then), but it's not like the coin upgrade gives you battle stats either.
Also I was going to ask what to build if you're going carry support but turns out triforce blitz is hilarious (incidently, you also MELT towers). I tried AP first which seemed lackluster and something like muramana is obviously not going to snowball for you as support, but I think I found my answer.
EDIT: sorry about the question spam lol I just picked up blitz yesterday and there doesn't seem to be any good s4 blitz guides
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On January 22 2014 22:02 Vanka wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 21:54 Sufficiency wrote:On January 22 2014 15:36 Zdrastochye wrote:On January 22 2014 14:22 Sufficiency wrote:On January 22 2014 13:47 Zdrastochye wrote:
Well, went 9-1 in my placements, put into gold 4. Bronze I'll miss you and all you wonderful adventures we shared over the years. You were a true friend to me when I really needed it.
Blitz really is op though, 6-0 while playing at 1700 MMR with my duo buddy. I still can't believe he's never banned.<3 Meh, I think Blitzcrank is garbage now. He has a lot of problems against Leona and Thresh. In a real teamfight in this tank meta he is useless. The only thing he is good at is creating random picks... provided the opponents are dumb enough. You guys speak in hyperboles too much. Is Blitz 100% completely useless? No. Is he as strong as he was before when people played lots of squishy assassins? Of course not. Thresh is a great champion, and does many things better than Blitz, but Blitz still has some advantages (namely getting better hooks) and is therefore still viable. And I'm having success versus platinum level players this time around, not just my fellow bronzies. He is not completely useless. No one said that. But he is pretty weak right now. oh hey I just came in here to ask how you build blitz. iceborn? normal tank with randuins/spirit visage?
Iceborn is less cool than expected, since the knock-up on E defeats the purpose of the slow field by and large. You still have 3 other skills, and it gives good stats, but it's worse than Frozen Heart, I'd say.
RoA/RoA/RoA/Manamune/Atma's/Nashor's best build
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On January 23 2014 00:55 Nos- wrote:
A Dade vs Faker yasuo mirror in the midlane on Saturday?
Yasuo mirror mid, shyvana mirror top, mundo mirror jungle, and bot with be annie/an adc on both sides.
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On January 23 2014 00:57 TheHumanSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 22:02 Vanka wrote:On January 22 2014 21:54 Sufficiency wrote:On January 22 2014 15:36 Zdrastochye wrote:On January 22 2014 14:22 Sufficiency wrote:On January 22 2014 13:47 Zdrastochye wrote:
Well, went 9-1 in my placements, put into gold 4. Bronze I'll miss you and all you wonderful adventures we shared over the years. You were a true friend to me when I really needed it.
Blitz really is op though, 6-0 while playing at 1700 MMR with my duo buddy. I still can't believe he's never banned.<3 Meh, I think Blitzcrank is garbage now. He has a lot of problems against Leona and Thresh. In a real teamfight in this tank meta he is useless. The only thing he is good at is creating random picks... provided the opponents are dumb enough. You guys speak in hyperboles too much. Is Blitz 100% completely useless? No. Is he as strong as he was before when people played lots of squishy assassins? Of course not. Thresh is a great champion, and does many things better than Blitz, but Blitz still has some advantages (namely getting better hooks) and is therefore still viable. And I'm having success versus platinum level players this time around, not just my fellow bronzies. He is not completely useless. No one said that. But he is pretty weak right now. oh hey I just came in here to ask how you build blitz. iceborn? normal tank with randuins/spirit visage? Iceborn is less cool than expected, since the knock-up on E defeats the purpose of the slow field by and large. You still have 3 other skills, and it gives good stats, but it's worse than Frozen Heart, I'd say. RoA/RoA/RoA/Manamune/Atma's/Nashor's best build
You could have fit at least 3 more rods of ages into that built.
4/10
double posting is hard T.T
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On January 23 2014 00:57 killerdog wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 00:55 Nos- wrote:
A Dade vs Faker yasuo mirror in the midlane on Saturday? Yasuo mirror mid, shyvana mirror top, mundo mirror jungle, and bot with be annie/an adc on both sides.
If a blind pick has a Lucian mirror which team is cursed?
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On January 23 2014 01:02 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 00:57 killerdog wrote:On January 23 2014 00:55 Nos- wrote:
A Dade vs Faker yasuo mirror in the midlane on Saturday? Yasuo mirror mid, shyvana mirror top, mundo mirror jungle, and bot with be annie/an adc on both sides. If a blind pick has a Lucian mirror which team is cursed?
The team that didn't counter the Annie with a Leona.
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On January 23 2014 01:02 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 00:57 killerdog wrote:On January 23 2014 00:55 Nos- wrote:
A Dade vs Faker yasuo mirror in the midlane on Saturday? Yasuo mirror mid, shyvana mirror top, mundo mirror jungle, and bot with be annie/an adc on both sides. If a blind pick has a Lucian mirror which team is cursed?
Maybe it just goes recursive, and we get a CLG.EU vs WE situation.
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On January 23 2014 01:04 killerdog wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 01:02 Fusilero wrote:On January 23 2014 00:57 killerdog wrote:On January 23 2014 00:55 Nos- wrote:
A Dade vs Faker yasuo mirror in the midlane on Saturday? Yasuo mirror mid, shyvana mirror top, mundo mirror jungle, and bot with be annie/an adc on both sides. If a blind pick has a Lucian mirror which team is cursed? Maybe it just goes recursive, and we get a CLG.EU vs WE situation.
Last time we had a ZvZ midlane, this time a YvY midlane. All signs point towards Xerath vs Xerath game 5 blind pick game next season of OGN.
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So when you play ARAM, if everyone started with nomads. That would be +16g per minion / +96g per wave.
Isnt that kinda OP.
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let's be realistic, the only way ogn goes to blind pick is if skt is doing some savior matchfixing type stuff.
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On January 23 2014 00:40 Nos- wrote:
People in gold like to go ham a lot and just fight all the time, regardless of itemization or what have you. It's kind of a weird thing to watch a renekton just brawling 1v3 with incomplete items over and over again, wondering where his team is when it fails.
And in Plat you got full pussy teams, where they're too scared to fail to use a single spell.
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On January 23 2014 01:19 Omnishroud wrote:
So when you play ARAM, if everyone started with nomads. That would be +16g per minion / +96g per wave.
Isnt that kinda OP.
Seriously though, I don't understand why the item isn't more common. If I'm a mana champion and not an ADC (or someone who will get a big chunk of the CS), I grab that thing every game. The regen is excellent and it pays for itself and then some by the game end.
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It would take 25 minutes for 5 nomads to pay themselves off with 100 minions per 10 mins and perfect execution. Thats not bad really.
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On January 23 2014 00:48 overt wrote:
How likely does TL think it is that Yasuo will get nerfed? I know he sees bans and decent play at the pro level but literally every NA or EU LCS match I've seen with a Yasuo he did pretty average. I really like his playstyle but I'm not sure I wanna invest time getting good with him just to see him nerfed into the ground.
300+ HP shield, renewed by his ult during midgame, and 600+ by endgame with every E charging an awful lot of it now that W's maxed. I'd expect a nerf of the shield's value at the higher levels, esp. as it means you just can't die in clean-up situations unless there's a 700+ range point'n'click spell to pop your shield or a skillshot (the way it works means it can get popped "for free" (if you can prevent him from getting within 475 range during 2s), but also that if don't have means to do so it's also impossible to bait it).
On January 23 2014 00:57 killerdog wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 00:55 Nos- wrote:
A Dade vs Faker yasuo mirror in the midlane on Saturday? Yasuo mirror mid, shyvana mirror top, mundo mirror jungle, and bot with be annie/an adc on both sides.
Mundo early clears too harmful, they're run him top and Shyvana jungle in that case.
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On January 23 2014 01:27 Alzadar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 01:19 Omnishroud wrote:
So when you play ARAM, if everyone started with nomads. That would be +16g per minion / +96g per wave.
Isnt that kinda OP. Seriously though, I don't understand why the item isn't more common. If I'm a mana champion and not an ADC (or someone who will get a big chunk of the CS), I grab that thing every game. The regen is excellent and it pays for itself and then some by the game end.
i buy it on every champ these days. regen is king in aram.
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I'm confused, can you actually drop leagues through just losing like you can with divisions (like dropping from 1 to 2) or was that not added yet?
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On January 23 2014 00:56 Vanka wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 23:39 Sufficiency wrote:On January 22 2014 23:12 Zdrastochye wrote:On January 22 2014 22:02 Vanka wrote:On January 22 2014 21:54 Sufficiency wrote:On January 22 2014 15:36 Zdrastochye wrote:On January 22 2014 14:22 Sufficiency wrote:On January 22 2014 13:47 Zdrastochye wrote:
Well, went 9-1 in my placements, put into gold 4. Bronze I'll miss you and all you wonderful adventures we shared over the years. You were a true friend to me when I really needed it.
Blitz really is op though, 6-0 while playing at 1700 MMR with my duo buddy. I still can't believe he's never banned.<3 Meh, I think Blitzcrank is garbage now. He has a lot of problems against Leona and Thresh. In a real teamfight in this tank meta he is useless. The only thing he is good at is creating random picks... provided the opponents are dumb enough. You guys speak in hyperboles too much. Is Blitz 100% completely useless? No. Is he as strong as he was before when people played lots of squishy assassins? Of course not. Thresh is a great champion, and does many things better than Blitz, but Blitz still has some advantages (namely getting better hooks) and is therefore still viable. And I'm having success versus platinum level players this time around, not just my fellow bronzies. He is not completely useless. No one said that. But he is pretty weak right now. oh hey I just came in here to ask how you build blitz. iceborn? normal tank with randuins/spirit visage? Blitz has always been a fringe pick, the only issue for the month is that he's relatively weak in lane vs leona and thresh, both of whom are popular now. By nature of the champion blitz will always be OP in solo queue though Pretty much I rush 40% CDR after getting sightstone. Usually in the form of Talisman + FH, though Locket is a better buy if my team is facing lots of nukers rather than just sick auto attack damage. To all those who claim he's so far behind from laning phase, I'm wondering if you're just playing with terrible Blitzcranks/are terrible on Blitzcrank. You can hold the line and threaten their adc with hooks, but if you miss (which you shouldn't most of the time) then prepare to be poked down for it. I generally like to allow the lane to push into our tower and then either the jungler can gank (even if he walks past a ward you're still going to engage with a hook) or you can threaten to grab under tower and either they respect it and you get a safety buffer around your tower to last hit, or they play aggressive and you grab them and they are forced to burn flash and not do that again. I guess my success with him only works because I hit a majority of my hooks. When you're bad at hitting hooks, he's a much weaker champion. He is decent against Janna, Lulu, and Nami for sure. Vs Sona it feels like a skill match up. But his lack of pre6 burst or defense steroid makes him pretty weak against tanky support s. Techincally, everything is a skill matchup. It's not that difficult to beat a thresh as blitz if you're hooking right either, it just depends on how you pick your engages. Mobo boots before sightstone or sightstone first? Mobo boots or whatever the second upgrade of coin is? I feel like when you rush mobo boots it's hard to do teh full on fight, especially with a doran's start (it feels like you're wasting the dorans then), but it's not like the coin upgrade gives you battle stats either. Also I was going to ask what to build if you're going carry support but turns out triforce blitz is hilarious (incidently, you also MELT towers). I tried AP first which seemed lackluster and something like muramana is obviously not going to snowball for you as support, but I think I found my answer. EDIT: sorry about the question spam lol I just picked up blitz yesterday and there doesn't seem to be any good s4 blitz guides
I get mobos before sightstone if the laning phase is lasting longer than usual. Typically by the time I upgrade coin and get rank 1 boots with a couple wards, laning phase tends to be dwindling down due to jungler ganks/lane pressure causing a tower to get low. If both towers are healthy/both junglers aren't having successful ganks bot then I'll rush mobos to try roam (or shark) around for a gank mid or just to exert my robotic dominance. If tower falls you want sightstone to get vision up to counter their roams mid so you can make smarter decisions. Mobos are overrated unless you're doing some serious running back and forth, otherwise you're fine with rank 1s and using mana wisely with your overdrive.
I do roam a lot, so it's more tailored to my playstyle, but I could see it working for others too.
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On January 22 2014 19:52 Fildun wrote:
Well, soloq broke me. I'm just gonna say JUNGLE OR FEED every game till I hit plat 1 again.
as long as you don't pick ww and farm jungle until level 8
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I just did that in games. Jungle or feed / mid or feed. Lost 2 games anyways, because everyone but me fed :\
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On January 23 2014 00:56 Vanka wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 23:39 Sufficiency wrote:On January 22 2014 23:12 Zdrastochye wrote:On January 22 2014 22:02 Vanka wrote:On January 22 2014 21:54 Sufficiency wrote:On January 22 2014 15:36 Zdrastochye wrote:On January 22 2014 14:22 Sufficiency wrote:On January 22 2014 13:47 Zdrastochye wrote:
Well, went 9-1 in my placements, put into gold 4. Bronze I'll miss you and all you wonderful adventures we shared over the years. You were a true friend to me when I really needed it.
Blitz really is op though, 6-0 while playing at 1700 MMR with my duo buddy. I still can't believe he's never banned.<3 Meh, I think Blitzcrank is garbage now. He has a lot of problems against Leona and Thresh. In a real teamfight in this tank meta he is useless. The only thing he is good at is creating random picks... provided the opponents are dumb enough. You guys speak in hyperboles too much. Is Blitz 100% completely useless? No. Is he as strong as he was before when people played lots of squishy assassins? Of course not. Thresh is a great champion, and does many things better than Blitz, but Blitz still has some advantages (namely getting better hooks) and is therefore still viable. And I'm having success versus platinum level players this time around, not just my fellow bronzies. He is not completely useless. No one said that. But he is pretty weak right now. oh hey I just came in here to ask how you build blitz. iceborn? normal tank with randuins/spirit visage? Blitz has always been a fringe pick, the only issue for the month is that he's relatively weak in lane vs leona and thresh, both of whom are popular now. By nature of the champion blitz will always be OP in solo queue though Pretty much I rush 40% CDR after getting sightstone. Usually in the form of Talisman + FH, though Locket is a better buy if my team is facing lots of nukers rather than just sick auto attack damage. To all those who claim he's so far behind from laning phase, I'm wondering if you're just playing with terrible Blitzcranks/are terrible on Blitzcrank. You can hold the line and threaten their adc with hooks, but if you miss (which you shouldn't most of the time) then prepare to be poked down for it. I generally like to allow the lane to push into our tower and then either the jungler can gank (even if he walks past a ward you're still going to engage with a hook) or you can threaten to grab under tower and either they respect it and you get a safety buffer around your tower to last hit, or they play aggressive and you grab them and they are forced to burn flash and not do that again. I guess my success with him only works because I hit a majority of my hooks. When you're bad at hitting hooks, he's a much weaker champion. He is decent against Janna, Lulu, and Nami for sure. Vs Sona it feels like a skill match up. But his lack of pre6 burst or defense steroid makes him pretty weak against tanky support s. Techincally, everything is a skill matchup. It's not that difficult to beat a thresh as blitz if you're hooking right either, it just depends on how you pick your engages. Mobo boots before sightstone or sightstone first? Mobo boots or whatever the second upgrade of coin is? I feel like when you rush mobo boots it's hard to do teh full on fight, especially with a doran's start (it feels like you're wasting the dorans then), but it's not like the coin upgrade gives you battle stats either. Also I was going to ask what to build if you're going carry support but turns out triforce blitz is hilarious (incidently, you also MELT towers). I tried AP first which seemed lackluster and something like muramana is obviously not going to snowball for you as support, but I think I found my answer. EDIT: sorry about the question spam lol I just picked up blitz yesterday and there doesn't seem to be any good s4 blitz guides
Doran's shield+1 hp pot+Yellow trinket -> Coin (2nd upgrade whenever possible) -> Sightstone (Boots of speed somewhere here) -> Red trinket+Coin max upgrade+Boots upgrade -> Frozen heart
There's no reason, not to start doran's shield at the moment, it's just that strong. Frozen heart is op, cus of your passive, rest is standard.
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