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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
January 22 2014 02:02 GMT
#1461
On January 22 2014 10:54 Nos- wrote:
is Ehomda the normal queue god?

Yes.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
January 22 2014 02:04 GMT
#1462


Awesome talk about LoL esports and the Coke League
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 22 2014 02:18 GMT
#1463
I really like this video: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/champions-skins/skin-preview/legend-dragonblade-riven

The media featured in the video are pretty simple, but it feels really good.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 02:37:55
January 22 2014 02:34 GMT
#1464
On January 22 2014 11:04 nojitosunrise wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JNmJMoxS7c

Awesome talk about LoL esports and the Coke League


That interviewer was pretty good. He knew what notions the audiences had which had to be dispelled, and he knew what would impress them, and guided the discussion towards those topics. Was refreshing to see an interviewer who actually asks relevant questions and guided the discussion, rather then giving some really open statement, then leaving the interviewee to their own devices for 2-3 minutes at a time.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
January 22 2014 02:55 GMT
#1465
A shelf-life of decades seems like a rather ludicrously optimistic prediction given how quickly the gaming industry cycles.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
January 22 2014 03:09 GMT
#1466
On January 22 2014 10:38 FinestHour wrote:
some of the comments on the renekton """""""buffs""""""""" are actually hilariously funny to read


I don't know how on earth you could consider reduced healing until q is level 5 a buff. The damage on slice and dice is also way down at level 5 (up by 10 at level 1), unsure about the % armor penetration being removed and being made a slow, but accounting for the 30 damage lost on both the slice and the dice I have a very hard time seeing that being a net buff. It's not like Renekton is a pick champion, and he's already stunning whoever he happens to be on so a slow isn't exactly the most enticing thing in the world. Not to mention Randuin's pretty much already does that for him (and its active slow is better).
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 22 2014 03:11 GMT
#1467
I thought he was being sarcastic since there was a Red post that said they were looking to nerf Renekton's early game and buff his lategame. The PBE changes are nerfs all around.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
January 22 2014 03:17 GMT
#1468
On January 22 2014 12:11 Ryuu314 wrote:
I thought he was being sarcastic since there was a Red post that said they were looking to nerf Renekton's early game and buff his lategame. The PBE changes are nerfs all around.


I suppose that would make more sense.
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
January 22 2014 03:23 GMT
#1469
As some might have noticed l, I have been posting rants on Lucian last week during the NA LCS thread. I want to hear people's opinions because I am not sold on him as a top AD that everyone thinks he is. I feel that he is strong vs a team comp of squishes but in this meta with my do and shyly so strong I don't see him doing damage. Mind you I have over a hundred ranked games with him but I quit him because he doesn't feel right anymore.

I feel that unless you get fed early in lane or my team gets fed, that I don't do much damage throughout the game to tanks supports such as Leona Taric or the tanks top and jungles right now. Why do teams value him so much? I watched him in LCS and he has been doing pretty poorly yet almost always picked. I feel like cait and jinx are much stronger , even ez real .

I'm not sayin he's bad because I know his power, but in this meta and vs tanks I don't think he's the best like he is considered top 3. Thoughts?
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
January 22 2014 03:32 GMT
#1470
Take this for what it's worth from a scrub, but I really don't find he does enough damage early on to make up for his late game. He's still an ADC, but really, in teamfights I feel like he's forced to skirt around fight a lot more than others while not having near the damage output others have. He is safe though, so there's that. I'd put him in spot 3 maybe.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 03:42:18
January 22 2014 03:40 GMT
#1471
His latest nerfs have gated his ability to be an unmitigated lane bully, and other top ADC picks (Jinx, Sivir, and Varus imo) can go roughly even with him with a "better" late game.

He remains a very strong pick if you want safety, but his early/midgame transition is nowhere near as dominant as before.

Still utterly crushes a number of ADCs though even after Q range nerf. He's no longer a worse matchup for Vayne than Cait but...still pretty close.

He's somewhat close to Ezreal in terms of ADC niches..
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
January 22 2014 03:41 GMT
#1472
On January 22 2014 12:17 zer0das wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 12:11 Ryuu314 wrote:
I thought he was being sarcastic since there was a Red post that said they were looking to nerf Renekton's early game and buff his lategame. The PBE changes are nerfs all around.


I suppose that would make more sense.



riot's entire balance team consists of a couple of guys watching tournaments and waiting for someone to do well with a champ rip kayle
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 03:43:51
January 22 2014 03:43 GMT
#1473
Kayle's burst was ridic. I'm glad I can no longer get 2-shot as an ADC. Now I can worry about getting 3-4 shot instead. That's better.

Still a very viable counterpick against a number of champs, however. Kha6 and other reset assassins hate her with a passion.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
January 22 2014 03:49 GMT
#1474
On January 22 2014 12:43 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Kayle's burst was ridic. I'm glad I can no longer get 2-shot as an ADC. Now I can worry about getting 3-4 shot instead. That's better.

Still a very viable counterpick against a number of champs, however. Kha6 and other reset assassins hate her with a passion.

you stop worrying about kayle and then vi/elise/kha/grag 2 shot you anyways
Bronze player stuck in platinum
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 04:01:21
January 22 2014 03:56 GMT
#1475
On January 22 2014 12:23 Yezzus wrote:
As some might have noticed l, I have been posting rants on Lucian last week during the NA LCS thread. I want to hear people's opinions because I am not sold on him as a top AD that everyone thinks he is. I feel that he is strong vs a team comp of squishes but in this meta with my do and shyly so strong I don't see him doing damage. Mind you I have over a hundred ranked games with him but I quit him because he doesn't feel right anymore.

I feel that unless you get fed early in lane or my team gets fed, that I don't do much damage throughout the game to tanks supports such as Leona Taric or the tanks top and jungles right now. Why do teams value him so much? I watched him in LCS and he has been doing pretty poorly yet almost always picked. I feel like cait and jinx are much stronger , even ez real .

I'm not sayin he's bad because I know his power, but in this meta and vs tanks I don't think he's the best like he is considered top 3. Thoughts?


Lucian is the safest ADC right IMO. I dont think think hes that great, but his existence stops a great many other ADCs from being viable, like S3 Worlds Corki (although he was uber strong).
Freeeeeeedom
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
January 22 2014 03:57 GMT
#1476
Any ADC with a free, highly responsive (not 90 caliber net) flash is going to always be very safe. Lucian's in a slightly better spot than Ezreal right now due to his skirmishing power, so he's seeing a lot of play for the safety reason.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
January 22 2014 03:58 GMT
#1477
On January 22 2014 12:49 Nos- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 12:43 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Kayle's burst was ridic. I'm glad I can no longer get 2-shot as an ADC. Now I can worry about getting 3-4 shot instead. That's better.

Still a very viable counterpick against a number of champs, however. Kha6 and other reset assassins hate her with a passion.

you stop worrying about kayle and then vi/elise/kha/grag 2 shot you anyways

All of them except Kha are alright.

On Vi: people will learn to pick support Morg against her.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 22 2014 04:14 GMT
#1478
On January 22 2014 12:49 Nos- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 12:43 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Kayle's burst was ridic. I'm glad I can no longer get 2-shot as an ADC. Now I can worry about getting 3-4 shot instead. That's better.

Still a very viable counterpick against a number of champs, however. Kha6 and other reset assassins hate her with a passion.

you stop worrying about kayle and then vi/elise/kha/grag 2 shot you anyways

Vi/Elise don't 2 shot you. Vi sets you up to be 2 shot, Elise can kinda 2 shot you early but her damage falls off hard.

Kha/Grag can 2 shot you, but they're both receiving pretty hefty nerfs.
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
January 22 2014 04:15 GMT
#1479
I see many people bring up Lucian's safety not power. My question is do you think he's good to "carry" in soloque. I feel like he can't carry games or be a game changer like jinx, cait, vayne etc. he's very reliant on his team
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
January 22 2014 04:16 GMT
#1480
What's with Graves these days? He's like my favorite next to varus
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