That was the thing with lanes like Soraka/Kog'Maw (and also Sona/Kog'Maw which was used by Team Vulcun a lot in the last season of LCS). The trade-off is/was an extremely vulnerable early-game with the benefit that if you went even in lane and didn't die or get ganked you would gain an insane amount of lane presence by being able to zone off with Kog'Maws ult and his absurd range. I really miss that time, because it relied much more on positioning vs dmg, as to now where it's positioning vs. CC.

edit: question for the stream fanatics. Who's the most aggressive (in-game play, not IRL) streamer? I wanna see someone going balls deep all day.

trick2g, but he's not even that highly ranked. he's like mid diamond?

doublelift just pushes his lane as hard as possible, and often he gets caught in like 1v3 or 2v4 situations, and outplays them constantly in solo queue.

zionspartan, he plays like that on stream, and in pro play. (though he doesn't stream that much).

Sponkz

Denmark4564 Posts

January 21 2014 23:19 GMT

#1444

Cool, guess I'll watch out for Zionspartan's stream then!

edit: tuned in, in time to watch him and Shiphtur dive and die. This is perfect!

FinestHour

United States18466 Posts

January 21 2014 23:21 GMT

#1445

ya my point was saying mana restraints is the complete opposite of a big deal on kayle

Fuzzmosis

Canada752 Posts

January 21 2014 23:33 GMT

#1446

After playing for Over 2 years, time to finally give ranked a serious go.
Main Account (Plays whatever, wherever) 1-1
Twitch only Smurf, 2-0
Sion Only Smurf, 0-2.

I'm pretty sure my Sion only is going to end up in Bronze hell judging by the teammates. Woohoo gg called at first blood.

Sufficiency

Canada23833 Posts

January 21 2014 23:45 GMT

#1447

I think the Kayle R mana cost thing won't go through; the Q changes definitely will (she is too bursty right now).

Honestly though, I'd rather see a slight increase in AP ration on her E instead of W. Increasing healing ratio is always a bad idea IMO.

Alaric

France45622 Posts

January 22 2014 00:20 GMT

#1448

On January 22 2014 06:54 Crusnik wrote:
Soraka + Lucian = boring lane for both parties, heal bots are just annoying in a MOBA :/

Had the pleasure last time I played blind pick leveling my smurf to have to play Taric against Sivir+Soraka.
z_z

Crusnik

United States5378 Posts

January 22 2014 00:25 GMT

#1449

On January 22 2014 09:20 Alaric wrote:

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Had the pleasure last time I played blind pick leveling my smurf to have to play Taric against Sivir+Soraka.
z_z

I feel your pain, I once picked Ezreal/Taric into a Sivir, not my brightest moment.

gtrsrs

United States9109 Posts

January 22 2014 00:26 GMT

#1450

On January 22 2014 06:03 cLutZ wrote:

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Ask Pobelter and Krepo!

they don't really have time to tutor me on the game
hence why i was just wondering if there was a TL mathcraft or explanation somewhere

Alaric

France45622 Posts

January 22 2014 00:28 GMT

#1451

Wasn't painful till much later, just... boring. Cait was horrible and rushed BotRK which obv. didn't help, but I was a walking ward in that lane, impossible to get presence unless when Soraka stepped too far (and even then I couldn't go for it because Cait wouldn't follow but that isn't tied to the match-up).
So next game I dunked a Teemo with Olaf. :<

ShaLLoW[baY]

Canada12499 Posts

January 22 2014 00:51 GMT

#1452

On January 22 2014 04:53 Sufficiency wrote:

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I usually go QWEW then W>Q> E. Going E on second level feels bad because people can charge straight at you if you do not have W for trades.... especially against melee champions.

For builds it is either DFG, Zhonya, or HG first for me. On hard lanes I think HG is a bit better (especially if the opponent can CC your R reliably). DFG has way more roaming and kill potential though.

Now that I think about it, I've been taking E second to dodge skillshots from the champs I listed above. I feel pretty comfortable with it, it's only a one level gap. If it were someone who's going to all-in me at level 2 maybe I would take W? Although I'd probably still prefer shunpo to trinket in that case?

ShaLLoW[baY]

Canada12499 Posts

January 22 2014 00:52 GMT

#1453

On January 22 2014 06:04 arb wrote:
Are they gonna reset your champions played thing on the S4 stats? This way i dont gotta sort through shit i havent played this season to see stats?

Mine already reset? Hasn't yours?

FinestHour

United States18466 Posts

January 22 2014 00:56 GMT

#1454

yes they were reset already

Scip

Czech Republic11293 Posts

January 22 2014 01:32 GMT

#1455

Can you feel it? That's my ego reacting with challenger badge, it's like a fucking cryptonian crystal, it just keeps growing oh my god

FinestHour

United States18466 Posts

January 22 2014 01:38 GMT

#1456

some of the comments on the renekton """""""buffs""""""""" are actually hilariously funny to read

killerdog

Denmark6522 Posts

January 22 2014 01:39 GMT

#1457

On January 22 2014 10:32 Scip wrote:
Can you feel it? That's my ego reacting with challenger badge, it's like a fucking cryptonian crystal, it just keeps growing oh my god

You should come play inhouses tomorrow, so you can lose to a bunch of gold/plat people and have it deflated.

How hard was the promotion series? Looks like you sort of breezed through it :p

Scip

Czech Republic11293 Posts

January 22 2014 01:49 GMT

#1458

It was super easy, all of them duoQ with fR SôĄP, a support whom I played one tournament with.
First game Vi, bot and top are doing well, but my duoQ partner in mid Lux vs Ziggs is getting wrecked, and I use my ult there 3 times without getting a kill because he couldnt hit binding for his life lol, I still get good ganks off and end up 10/2/13.
2nd game I am on Eve and he's on Thresh, I don't do that great but all lanes wreck really hard, easy win, especially Soap this time on Ziggs just keeps killing their Graggy 1v1
3rd game I play Vi and gank their middle lane Kha quite a bit, he ends up being 1/10/2 in a 23 minute game, so yeah.

Nos-

Canada12016 Posts

January 22 2014 01:54 GMT

#1459

is Ehomda the normal queue god?

Alaric

France45622 Posts

January 22 2014 02:00 GMT

#1460

On January 22 2014 10:49 Scip wrote:
2nd game I am on Eve and he's on Thresh, I don't do that great but all lanes wreck really hard, easy win, especially Soap this time on Ziggs just keeps killing their Graggy 1v1

What.