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On January 22 2014 05:32 gtrsrs wrote:
can someone link me info to good mastery sets for season 4?
i haven't had time to really dive into the mastery tree yet
Ask Pobelter and Krepo!
On January 22 2014 05:50 Sufficiency wrote:
Honestly I feel Riot just thought Renekton has been popular for too long so it is time for him to retire from the stage... while simultaneously buffing champion X so Riot can also sell some champion X skins.
Seems legit. Kinda like the Shen changes that finally lopped off his head. Although, they never made any Shen skins when he was super strong. I mean, you you aren't sick of Renekton, you never are gonna be sick of him.
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Are they gonna reset your champions played thing on the S4 stats? This way i dont gotta sort through shit i havent played this season to see stats?
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Yea stats are reset every season.
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Honestly, I don't even feel like Renekton is that good at the moment. He's weaker than Shyvana and Mundo, and he got hit pretty hard by the fact its really hard to maintain a large level advantage. Was pretty common in season 3 for me to be 2-4 levels ahead of a bot lane, now it's like 1-2 at most, often times dead even despite the fact I should have a large lead given how laning went.
I guess one could argue Shy and Mundo are just severely out of whack compared to almost every other top laner and Renekton is still strong, just not as strong as them. Still, I don't feel like he deserves any nerfs, if they were going to do that they should have done it near the end of season 3 when he was actually really strong, it makes so little sense to do them now.
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In my opinion, the reason why champions like Shyvana and Mundo are so strong is because the Defensive tree masteries are very strong.
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Tbh...I feel Shyvana is more a problem than Mundo. Mundo gets counterpicked pretty hard. At least in my experience, going Jax whenever the enemy picks a Mundo is a free win, especially after the Visage/Sunfire nerfs.
In terms of competitive, I think a big issue is that Shyvana/Mundo counterpicks are shut down by 2v1 or Renekton so there's not much a team can do.
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On January 22 2014 05:44 JazzVortical wrote:
This no mana shIt is getting really old. It's infuriating that Lucian has a no cost dash, now Kayle ultimate? Wtf
Lucian's E won't have 0 mana cost until level 18. Like, this is a terrible example since Lucian was/is heavily gated by his mana in the lane/midgame.
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Thats why I like playing with Soraka as Lucian, never run out of mana again!
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Soraka + Lucian = no CC lane.
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Soraka + Lucian = boring lane for both parties, heal bots are just annoying in a MOBA :/
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On January 22 2014 06:54 Crusnik wrote:
Soraka + Lucian = boring lane for both parties, heal bots are just annoying in a MOBA :/
It's not that healing is a bad thing, RIOT just decided that they wanted more CC-oriented supports rather than passive supports. Back in Season 2, you could have very interesting lanes, because it was possible to run stuff like Soraka/Kog'Maw which didn't make it a boring lane, because Kog'maw could play the lane by himself post-6.
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I don't understand the knee jerk reactions of riot to Nerf kayle , who only recently started getting played again. Yes she does pretty insane burst once the deathcaps and voids start coming out, but so does every other ap champion in the game with the same items. She's a autoattack centric ap carry. Only other ones would be Diana(kinda) and teemo. And most of the other champions don't need to use a slot on nashors either. Imagine if another champ got a dfg instead. When you have champs who can delete somebody instantly, what's wrong with having a sustained DPs mage that isn't Cass.
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On January 22 2014 06:03 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 05:32 gtrsrs wrote:
can someone link me info to good mastery sets for season 4?
i haven't had time to really dive into the mastery tree yet Ask Pobelter and Krepo! Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 05:50 Sufficiency wrote:
Honestly I feel Riot just thought Renekton has been popular for too long so it is time for him to retire from the stage... while simultaneously buffing champion X so Riot can also sell some champion X skins. Seems legit. Kinda like the Shen changes that finally lopped off his head. Although, they never made any Shen skins when he was super strong. I mean, you you aren't sick of Renekton, you never are gonna be sick of him.
Warlord Shen, TPA Shen...
Croc is pretty boring to watch. He doesn't really make plays in lane or in teamfights, he's just a big hunk of meat with a lot of stats but no fancy moves. Similar* champions to Renekton are all much more interesting - Darius, Garen, Xin, Warwick or Volibear for e.g. - they all either have a interesting tactical decision to make (who to ult) or can make a big play sometimes (flip/knockback). Yes Garen is actually more interesting to watch than Renekton, who just dashes in, stuns someone and then stands around being big.
*TM
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On January 22 2014 07:00 Sponkz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 06:54 Crusnik wrote:
Soraka + Lucian = boring lane for both parties, heal bots are just annoying in a MOBA :/ It's not that healing is a bad thing, RIOT just decided that they wanted more CC-oriented supports rather than passive supports. Back in Season 2, you could have very interesting lanes, because it was possible to run stuff like Soraka/Kog'Maw which didn't make it a boring lane, because Kog'maw could play the lane by himself post-6.
I'm clueless as to early S3 and before, I only started playing around the middle of the Spring Split last year I think,
I wish Kog`Maw didn't just almost automatically most lane matchups, having to severly outplay a lane to make something work isn't something I'm willing to pull off unless I'm duo'd with a friend who mains Support :/
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u mean like how they knee jerk every single mage that gets any kind of attention
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On January 22 2014 07:12 Crusnik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 07:00 Sponkz wrote:On January 22 2014 06:54 Crusnik wrote:
Soraka + Lucian = boring lane for both parties, heal bots are just annoying in a MOBA :/ It's not that healing is a bad thing, RIOT just decided that they wanted more CC-oriented supports rather than passive supports. Back in Season 2, you could have very interesting lanes, because it was possible to run stuff like Soraka/Kog'Maw which didn't make it a boring lane, because Kog'maw could play the lane by himself post-6. I'm clueless as to early S3 and before, I only started playing around the middle of the Spring Split last year I think, I wish Kog`Maw didn't just almost automatically most lane matchups, having to severly outplay a lane to make something work isn't something I'm willing to pull off unless I'm duo'd with a friend who mains Support :/
That was the thing with lanes like Soraka/Kog'Maw (and also Sona/Kog'Maw which was used by Team Vulcun a lot in the last season of LCS). The trade-off is/was an extremely vulnerable early-game with the benefit that if you went even in lane and didn't die or get ganked you would gain an insane amount of lane presence by being able to zone off with Kog'Maws ult and his absurd range. I really miss that time, because it relied much more on positioning vs dmg, as to now where it's positioning vs. CC.
edit: question for the stream fanatics. Who's the most aggressive (in-game play, not IRL) streamer? I wanna see someone going balls deep all day.
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On January 22 2014 07:12 Alzadar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 06:03 cLutZ wrote:On January 22 2014 05:32 gtrsrs wrote:
can someone link me info to good mastery sets for season 4?
i haven't had time to really dive into the mastery tree yet Ask Pobelter and Krepo! On January 22 2014 05:50 Sufficiency wrote:
Honestly I feel Riot just thought Renekton has been popular for too long so it is time for him to retire from the stage... while simultaneously buffing champion X so Riot can also sell some champion X skins. Seems legit. Kinda like the Shen changes that finally lopped off his head. Although, they never made any Shen skins when he was super strong. I mean, you you aren't sick of Renekton, you never are gonna be sick of him. Warlord Shen, TPA Shen... Croc is pretty boring to watch. He doesn't really make plays in lane or in teamfights, he's just a big hunk of meat with a lot of stats but no fancy moves. Similar* champions to Renekton are all much more interesting - Darius, Garen, Xin, Warwick or Volibear for e.g. - they all either have a interesting tactical decision to make (who to ult) or can make a big play sometimes (flip/knockback). Yes Garen is actually more interesting to watch than Renekton, who just dashes in, stuns someone and then stands around being big. *TM
I forgot about Warlord AND TPA (even though I have TPA!). Oh well. I agree that Renekton is boring, but I find his boringness in the constant Q minion pushing and his near immunity to ganks.
On January 22 2014 07:17 FinestHour wrote:
u mean like how they knee jerk every single mage that gets any kind of attention
Its quite odd. I thought Midlane was very healthy, now they are floating tons of midlane nerfs.
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On January 22 2014 07:17 Sponkz wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2014 07:12 Crusnik wrote:On January 22 2014 07:00 Sponkz wrote:On January 22 2014 06:54 Crusnik wrote:
Soraka + Lucian = boring lane for both parties, heal bots are just annoying in a MOBA :/ It's not that healing is a bad thing, RIOT just decided that they wanted more CC-oriented supports rather than passive supports. Back in Season 2, you could have very interesting lanes, because it was possible to run stuff like Soraka/Kog'Maw which didn't make it a boring lane, because Kog'maw could play the lane by himself post-6. I'm clueless as to early S3 and before, I only started playing around the middle of the Spring Split last year I think, I wish Kog`Maw didn't just almost automatically most lane matchups, having to severly outplay a lane to make something work isn't something I'm willing to pull off unless I'm duo'd with a friend who mains Support :/ That was the thing with lanes like Soraka/Kog'Maw (and also Sona/Kog'Maw which was used by Team Vulcun a lot in the last season of LCS). The trade-off is/was an extremely vulnerable early-game with the benefit that if you went even in lane and didn't die or get ganked you would gain an insane amount of lane presence by being able to zone off with Kog'Maws ult and his absurd range. I really miss that time, because it relied much more on positioning vs dmg, as to now where it's positioning vs. CC. edit: question for the stream fanatics. Who's the most aggressive (in-game play, not IRL) streamer? I wanna see someone going balls deep all day.
Not really sure. Sirhcez plays Singed, Nasus and Yasuo. RainMan whenever he doesn't play Teemo or a pure splitpush champion. So basically whenever he plays something other than top lane.
So Shyvana. Love her in the jungle. However, how the fuck do I carry my retard team through the laning phase?! In teamfights I'm a dragon god, but I can't get shit done while ganking.
Also, lane Shyvana: Do I still build SV for the 10% CDR or is the absurdly strong defense of Banshees better now?
All in all I just love Shyvana. Cool champion, very enjoyable, and DRAGON!
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how's leblanc support right now? o:
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Support LB is as good as any other AP support. You need to win lane really hard in order to buy the scaling items that you need in order to stay effective mid/late-game. For LB, who doesn't have AoE CC, she relies on it more than someone like Annie, who always have something to contribute with in team fights.
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