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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4186 Posts
January 20 2014 13:37 GMT
#1161
On January 20 2014 22:35 Sponkz wrote:
You can get demoted from tiers, yes.

Is the demotion going the same way as with the divisions? you reach 0 points you lose a game and you go down?
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
January 20 2014 13:57 GMT
#1162
I hope they do a demotion series or something along those lines instead of just you reach 0 and then an arbitrary number of losses later bam demotion
Bronze player stuck in platinum
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
January 20 2014 13:58 GMT
#1163
On January 20 2014 22:57 Nos- wrote:
I hope they do a demotion series or something along those lines instead of just you reach 0 and then an arbitrary number of losses later bam demotion


I thought the idea was, if your mmr drops to more then one tier below you, you get demoted. (fx, you're plat 5 at 0 lp, you would only risk getting demoted once your mmr dropped to silver 1 or lower.)
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4186 Posts
January 20 2014 14:02 GMT
#1164
On January 20 2014 22:58 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 22:57 Nos- wrote:
I hope they do a demotion series or something along those lines instead of just you reach 0 and then an arbitrary number of losses later bam demotion


I thought the idea was, if your mmr drops to more then one tier below you, you get demoted. (fx, you're plat 5 at 0 lp, you would only risk getting demoted once your mmr dropped to silver 1 or lower.)

Why there is no official information about that..or if yes - where? I remember last season when they introduced tiers/divisions everything was explained on their official site
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
January 20 2014 14:11 GMT
#1165
On January 20 2014 22:19 M2 wrote:
Why is BotRK + Phantom Dancer a good combo when both of them provide attack speed but no attack damage, isn't it attack speed + damage better combo?

Vayne benefits from attack speed a lot thanks to silver bolts.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
January 20 2014 14:15 GMT
#1166
On January 20 2014 22:58 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 22:57 Nos- wrote:
I hope they do a demotion series or something along those lines instead of just you reach 0 and then an arbitrary number of losses later bam demotion


I thought the idea was, if your mmr drops to more then one tier below you, you get demoted. (fx, you're plat 5 at 0 lp, you would only risk getting demoted once your mmr dropped to silver 1 or lower.)

Oh is that right? I haven't heard any announcements of how this will be implemented. The way you describe it it sounds like you'll need to go on a huge losing streak to get demoted out of an entire tier (provided your mmr and ranking are relatively close to each other).
Bronze player stuck in platinum
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
January 20 2014 14:39 GMT
#1167
On January 20 2014 23:15 Nos- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 22:58 killerdog wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:57 Nos- wrote:
I hope they do a demotion series or something along those lines instead of just you reach 0 and then an arbitrary number of losses later bam demotion


I thought the idea was, if your mmr drops to more then one tier below you, you get demoted. (fx, you're plat 5 at 0 lp, you would only risk getting demoted once your mmr dropped to silver 1 or lower.)

Oh is that right? I haven't heard any announcements of how this will be implemented. The way you describe it it sounds like you'll need to go on a huge losing streak to get demoted out of an entire tier (provided your mmr and ranking are relatively close to each other).


its probably just to make elo boosting more useless.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
January 20 2014 14:46 GMT
#1168
has it just me thats found everyone super toxic in the first few games of the season? i know its not like people are ever nice but every game ive played people have been soooo angry.

also my duo buddy got placed in to plat 3 at the start of the season, so my hopes are high :O
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4186 Posts
January 20 2014 14:48 GMT
#1169
On January 20 2014 23:39 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 23:15 Nos- wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:58 killerdog wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:57 Nos- wrote:
I hope they do a demotion series or something along those lines instead of just you reach 0 and then an arbitrary number of losses later bam demotion


I thought the idea was, if your mmr drops to more then one tier below you, you get demoted. (fx, you're plat 5 at 0 lp, you would only risk getting demoted once your mmr dropped to silver 1 or lower.)

Oh is that right? I haven't heard any announcements of how this will be implemented. The way you describe it it sounds like you'll need to go on a huge losing streak to get demoted out of an entire tier (provided your mmr and ranking are relatively close to each other).


its probably just to make elo boosting more useless.

I cant even imagine the horror for the high elo players such as platinum/diamonds (coz bronze to gold I guess its all the same, doesnt matter if you ll get boosted or not) to play with boosted people haha, actually it should be pretty hilarious, you worked hard to reach the place where you can get away from random retards and boom you meet them there again and they are actually even worse xD
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 20 2014 14:49 GMT
#1170
On January 20 2014 23:11 RouaF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 22:19 M2 wrote:
Why is BotRK + Phantom Dancer a good combo when both of them provide attack speed but no attack damage, isn't it attack speed + damage better combo?

Vayne benefits from attack speed a lot thanks to silver bolts.


True, but thats not the only reason why. The reason is that Vayne's ult grants her a huge + AD steroid (Usually 40 by the time you get 2 items). Also, tumble scales off total AD, rather than bonus AD, so you ultiply all of her generous base AD scaling using that skill anyways.
Freeeeeeedom
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 20 2014 15:13 GMT
#1171
On January 20 2014 23:46 turdburgler wrote:
has it just me thats found everyone super toxic in the first few games of the season? i know its not like people are ever nice but every game ive played people have been soooo angry.

also my duo buddy got placed in to plat 3 at the start of the season, so my hopes are high :O


everyone is super sensitive about their placement matches, similar to the mood in this thread.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 20 2014 15:15 GMT
#1172
Tumble's bonus damage doesn't crit and it has no relation with AS whatsoever ('cept for animation's smoothness I guess), though. It's mostly for the ult.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
January 20 2014 15:16 GMT
#1173
1-3 in placements so far, I'm scared =(
2 losses prevented though, so atleast I did only get one big MMR hit.

Fuck I'm getting ladder anxiety.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 20 2014 15:25 GMT
#1174
God I feel Katarina plays not too differently from pre-rework now. Her basic abilities got nerfed so hard that they are fairly useless and it is all up to getting a good R in a teamfight.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 20 2014 15:42 GMT
#1175
On January 21 2014 00:25 Sufficiency wrote:
God I feel Katarina plays not too differently from pre-rework now. Her basic abilities got nerfed so hard that they are fairly useless and it is all up to getting a good R in a teamfight.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

I was never really a fan of the new katarina, no more godly AD ratios.
liftlift > tsm
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
January 20 2014 16:05 GMT
#1176
On January 20 2014 23:11 RouaF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 22:19 M2 wrote:
Why is BotRK + Phantom Dancer a good combo when both of them provide attack speed but no attack damage, isn't it attack speed + damage better combo?

Vayne benefits from attack speed a lot thanks to silver bolts.


With tumble + Silver bolts, Vayne does enough damage to tanks. Her ult gives her like 60 ad, so with it up she can destroy squishies as well while building pure AS.

Also, with that much attack speed, kiting is very very easy, which in my opinion is why people go that build (it just feels so nice).
InfSunday
Profile Joined March 2013
United States735 Posts
January 20 2014 16:12 GMT
#1177
On January 21 2014 00:42 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 00:25 Sufficiency wrote:
God I feel Katarina plays not too differently from pre-rework now. Her basic abilities got nerfed so hard that they are fairly useless and it is all up to getting a good R in a teamfight.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

I was never really a fan of the new katarina, no more godly AD ratios.


Yeah but now we have this weird AD Akali going around (either that or I attract them like flies to honey). It's bizarre seeing a Trinity Force + BotrK Akali shred your adc with her E + autos. It puzzles me that just two damage items give her such assassination ability. And because of her passive she has essentially infinity spellvamp.

Can we not have Akali be a thing again? Bjergsen pls.
Call me Sunday
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
January 20 2014 16:13 GMT
#1178
On January 20 2014 17:26 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 16:43 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On January 20 2014 16:31 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
I'm looking for an ADC that plays similar to Vayne, as I'm having a blast with her. Any suggestions?


Quinn feels quite similar in my opinion.

Does Quinn really do that much damage though? I love that Vayne can just go HAM 24/7 in small skirmishes, I figured maybe Draven is similiar.


Quinn has a ton of outplay potential and the damage from her passive is bonkers.

On January 20 2014 17:54 Eiii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 16:43 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On January 20 2014 16:31 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
I'm looking for an ADC that plays similar to Vayne, as I'm having a blast with her. Any suggestions?


Quinn feels quite similar in my opinion.


please don't compare an awesome adc like quinn to a lame adc like vayne.


My bad I love Quinn and despise Vayne, just trying to convert someone and spread the word.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
InfSunday
Profile Joined March 2013
United States735 Posts
January 20 2014 16:15 GMT
#1179
Very few things in this game have made me happier than being a 100 hp Quinn, getting taken down to 30 by Lee Sin (lower health than me and running away into a bush) q, and then killing him midair with vault as he tries to jump into me.
Call me Sunday
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
January 20 2014 17:14 GMT
#1180
On January 20 2014 23:48 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 23:39 LaNague wrote:
On January 20 2014 23:15 Nos- wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:58 killerdog wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:57 Nos- wrote:
I hope they do a demotion series or something along those lines instead of just you reach 0 and then an arbitrary number of losses later bam demotion


I thought the idea was, if your mmr drops to more then one tier below you, you get demoted. (fx, you're plat 5 at 0 lp, you would only risk getting demoted once your mmr dropped to silver 1 or lower.)

Oh is that right? I haven't heard any announcements of how this will be implemented. The way you describe it it sounds like you'll need to go on a huge losing streak to get demoted out of an entire tier (provided your mmr and ranking are relatively close to each other).


its probably just to make elo boosting more useless.

I cant even imagine the horror for the high elo players such as platinum/diamonds (coz bronze to gold I guess its all the same, doesnt matter if you ll get boosted or not) to play with boosted people haha, actually it should be pretty hilarious, you worked hard to reach the place where you can get away from random retards and boom you meet them there again and they are actually even worse xD


In Plat I at least the go-to insult is accusing someone of being boosted, especially if they're Diamond 5.
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