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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 20 2014 17:31 GMT
#1181
On January 21 2014 02:14 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 23:48 M2 wrote:
On January 20 2014 23:39 LaNague wrote:
On January 20 2014 23:15 Nos- wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:58 killerdog wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:57 Nos- wrote:
I hope they do a demotion series or something along those lines instead of just you reach 0 and then an arbitrary number of losses later bam demotion


I thought the idea was, if your mmr drops to more then one tier below you, you get demoted. (fx, you're plat 5 at 0 lp, you would only risk getting demoted once your mmr dropped to silver 1 or lower.)

Oh is that right? I haven't heard any announcements of how this will be implemented. The way you describe it it sounds like you'll need to go on a huge losing streak to get demoted out of an entire tier (provided your mmr and ranking are relatively close to each other).


its probably just to make elo boosting more useless.

I cant even imagine the horror for the high elo players such as platinum/diamonds (coz bronze to gold I guess its all the same, doesnt matter if you ll get boosted or not) to play with boosted people haha, actually it should be pretty hilarious, you worked hard to reach the place where you can get away from random retards and boom you meet them there again and they are actually even worse xD


In Plat I at least the go-to insult is accusing someone of being boosted, especially if they're Diamond 5.


Also the goto insult for gold.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
January 20 2014 17:47 GMT
#1182
and silver
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
January 20 2014 17:49 GMT
#1183
On January 21 2014 01:13 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 17:54 Eiii wrote:
On January 20 2014 16:43 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On January 20 2014 16:31 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
I'm looking for an ADC that plays similar to Vayne, as I'm having a blast with her. Any suggestions?


Quinn feels quite similar in my opinion.


please don't compare an awesome adc like quinn to a lame adc like vayne.


My bad I love Quinn and despise Vayne, just trying to convert someone and spread the word.

Wow, you hate donger and vayne.

Pretty soon, you'll be saying that you hate lux too and then it will be zergling war.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 20 2014 18:15 GMT
#1184
Hating Lux is one of the most legitimate feelings in the world.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 20 2014 18:19 GMT
#1185
On January 21 2014 01:05 dae wrote:
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On January 20 2014 23:11 RouaF wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:19 M2 wrote:
Why is BotRK + Phantom Dancer a good combo when both of them provide attack speed but no attack damage, isn't it attack speed + damage better combo?

Vayne benefits from attack speed a lot thanks to silver bolts.


With tumble + Silver bolts, Vayne does enough damage to tanks. Her ult gives her like 60 ad, so with it up she can destroy squishies as well while building pure AS.

Also, with that much attack speed, kiting is very very easy, which in my opinion is why people go that build (it just feels so nice).

Kiting is actually harder with more AS. You're required to stutter step more. You actually want enough AS that you scale multiplicatively, but not too much that you can't walk inbetween shots without losing dps.
liftlift > tsm
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
January 20 2014 18:19 GMT
#1186
On January 21 2014 03:15 Alaric wrote:
Hating Lux is one of the most legitimate feelings in the world.

Hating fun makes you a bad person, legitimate or not.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
January 20 2014 18:25 GMT
#1187
Ctrl4
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 20 2014 18:29 GMT
#1188
But I only hate Lux, so it's fine. Well, I mean, I obviously don't hate only her, but within the parameters of your sentence I only hate her.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
InfSunday
Profile Joined March 2013
United States735 Posts
January 20 2014 18:41 GMT
#1189
Is the percentage of players across the Leagues known? For example, x% of total player base are in bronze/silver/gold/plat/dia. And if it is, can someone link me to where they found the data?
Call me Sunday
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
January 20 2014 18:43 GMT
#1190
On January 21 2014 03:41 InfSunday wrote:
Is the percentage of players across the Leagues known? For example, x% of total player base are in bronze/silver/gold/plat/dia. And if it is, can someone link me to where they found the data?


Yep. http://www.lolsummoners.com/stats/rankings/na
日本語が分かりますか
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
January 20 2014 18:52 GMT
#1191
Went 6-4 in placements, was Gold V 100 LP before, now Silver I.

Seems reasonable. No more clamping yay.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
January 20 2014 19:10 GMT
#1192
On January 21 2014 03:19 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 01:05 dae wrote:
On January 20 2014 23:11 RouaF wrote:
On January 20 2014 22:19 M2 wrote:
Why is BotRK + Phantom Dancer a good combo when both of them provide attack speed but no attack damage, isn't it attack speed + damage better combo?

Vayne benefits from attack speed a lot thanks to silver bolts.


With tumble + Silver bolts, Vayne does enough damage to tanks. Her ult gives her like 60 ad, so with it up she can destroy squishies as well while building pure AS.

Also, with that much attack speed, kiting is very very easy, which in my opinion is why people go that build (it just feels so nice).

Kiting is actually harder with more AS. You're required to stutter step more. You actually want enough AS that you scale multiplicatively, but not too much that you can't walk inbetween shots without losing dps.


Kiting is easier with more AS because attack speed speeds up the attack animation as well as the attack delay and does so in the same proportion. This means that you have the choice to attack more and move the same distance and attack less and move more when you have more attack speed.

If you have a large amount of hard AS scaling (like the combination of silver bolts and +AD from vaynes ultimate) you can definitely go heavy into attack speed and be effective.

The downsides is that a Vayne with silver bolts maxed and an attack speed heavy build is very poor in DPS without her ult up. A BT first, Q max Vayne is strong regardless of whether or not her ult is up so long as your positioning is strong enough that you do not need the super kite which the increased attack speed (and slow/hp active) that BotRK brings.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-20 19:14:37
January 20 2014 19:12 GMT
#1193
On January 21 2014 03:43 NovaTheFeared wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 03:41 InfSunday wrote:
Is the percentage of players across the Leagues known? For example, x% of total player base are in bronze/silver/gold/plat/dia. And if it is, can someone link me to where they found the data?


Yep. http://www.lolsummoners.com/stats/rankings/na

only 205k active accounts in NA? that seems low Oo (unless this means playing right now)
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 20 2014 19:16 GMT
#1194
Have they released the C9 housetour yet? I saw some twitter posts about it a few days ago.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 20 2014 19:29 GMT
#1195
Zed top, Kha'Zix jungle, Akali mid... what (plus Sona/Ashe bot for initiation).People are taking what they see in the LCS way too seriously.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
GreenBlue
Profile Joined November 2010
United States106 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-20 19:30:45
January 20 2014 19:30 GMT
#1196
On January 21 2014 04:12 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 03:43 NovaTheFeared wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:41 InfSunday wrote:
Is the percentage of players across the Leagues known? For example, x% of total player base are in bronze/silver/gold/plat/dia. And if it is, can someone link me to where they found the data?


Yep. http://www.lolsummoners.com/stats/rankings/na

only 205k active accounts in NA? that seems low Oo (unless this means playing right now)


A lot of people are still avoiding ranked I believe
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
January 20 2014 19:31 GMT
#1197
On January 21 2014 03:52 Doctorbeat wrote:
Went 6-4 in placements, was Gold V 100 LP before, now Silver I.

Seems reasonable. No more clamping yay.


I have a friend who went 7-3 in placements and went from Gold IV to Gold II. You needed to win that extra game.
I am the Town Medic.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
January 20 2014 19:32 GMT
#1198
On January 21 2014 04:30 GreenBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 04:12 kongoline wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:43 NovaTheFeared wrote:
On January 21 2014 03:41 InfSunday wrote:
Is the percentage of players across the Leagues known? For example, x% of total player base are in bronze/silver/gold/plat/dia. And if it is, can someone link me to where they found the data?


Yep. http://www.lolsummoners.com/stats/rankings/na

only 205k active accounts in NA? that seems low Oo (unless this means playing right now)


A lot of people are still avoiding ranked I believe

See me, or the number of people who don't ever play ranked..

Ranked Q after resets are shitshows. I'd prefer to give it a few weeks to settle down first.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
January 20 2014 19:33 GMT
#1199
On January 21 2014 02:49 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 01:13 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On January 20 2014 17:54 Eiii wrote:
On January 20 2014 16:43 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On January 20 2014 16:31 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
I'm looking for an ADC that plays similar to Vayne, as I'm having a blast with her. Any suggestions?


Quinn feels quite similar in my opinion.


please don't compare an awesome adc like quinn to a lame adc like vayne.


My bad I love Quinn and despise Vayne, just trying to convert someone and spread the word.

Wow, you hate donger and vayne.

Pretty soon, you'll be saying that you hate lux too and then it will be zergling war.


I don't hate donger?! Did I ever say that?

rep proof pls
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-20 19:43:12
January 20 2014 19:34 GMT
#1200
7-3 in placements, that last game was a heartbreaker.

Won lane pretty hard on Leona, but other lanes had a couple bad counterganks. Traded 4 for ace a few times midgame and one dragon to each side, team was communicating well and warding. Decided to risk a Baron after we picked off their jungle Vi and managed to get it, but we lost 2 people when disengaging. Got pushed really hard, but only lost an inhib tower and killed their Vayne and Mundo when we pushed out. Took out 2 of their inhibs, but homeguard Mundo raped our Cait and me when we were getting out. Our Yasuo backdoored their third inhib then tele'd bot and dunked their Vayne when I respawned. Our Olaf got caught while doing Dragon, we had bad focus and got 3 of them really low-- if we had killed even one we could've won I think.

We lose naked mid inhib and a nexus turret before Olaf respawns, then we push them out, I catch Vayne again and we force their Vi to back. We begin baron dancing while Yasuo splitpushes bot, Vi flashes over pit, dashes and ults our Cait, her GA gets popped, Mundo sits on her. Me, Olaf and Ahri run back to defend, Yasuo takes out a nexus turret and backs to help defend. They push us, Yasuo tele's to their base and finishes off their nexus turret. They ignore us and start focusing our nexus turrets, I EQ Vayne, Olaf trucks her down and Ahri charms Mundo into base turret, but our nexus dies when theirs has 9 hp left.

Such close.

1 hr 17 minutes, 60-57.
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