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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 20 2014 05:25 GMT
#1121
On January 20 2014 14:17 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 14:12 wei2coolman wrote:
"basically botrk is better alone but bt is way better if you're good at the game"-doublelift
in regards to why he goes BT (q max first) over BotRK (w max first) on vayne.

Continues, to explain that 2nd item timing of PD + BT is better than BotRK + PD, etc etc.

it was mentioned in LR before, just wanting to clarify if people didn't understand why DL did BT first on Vayne.

ELI5: pure AD for ADCs is better if you know how to position yourself.
True fax.

You watch that CLG game yet?
liftlift > tsm
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 20 2014 05:31 GMT
#1122
On January 20 2014 14:25 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 14:17 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 20 2014 14:12 wei2coolman wrote:
"basically botrk is better alone but bt is way better if you're good at the game"-doublelift
in regards to why he goes BT (q max first) over BotRK (w max first) on vayne.

Continues, to explain that 2nd item timing of PD + BT is better than BotRK + PD, etc etc.

it was mentioned in LR before, just wanting to clarify if people didn't understand why DL did BT first on Vayne.

ELI5: pure AD for ADCs is better if you know how to position yourself.
True fax.

You watch that CLG game yet?

Not yet, probably will tomorrow morning.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
January 20 2014 05:35 GMT
#1123
On January 20 2014 14:31 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 14:25 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 20 2014 14:17 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 20 2014 14:12 wei2coolman wrote:
"basically botrk is better alone but bt is way better if you're good at the game"-doublelift
in regards to why he goes BT (q max first) over BotRK (w max first) on vayne.

Continues, to explain that 2nd item timing of PD + BT is better than BotRK + PD, etc etc.

it was mentioned in LR before, just wanting to clarify if people didn't understand why DL did BT first on Vayne.

ELI5: pure AD for ADCs is better if you know how to position yourself.
True fax.

You watch that CLG game yet?

Not yet, probably will tomorrow morning.

And you call yourself a fan.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 20 2014 05:43 GMT
#1124
On January 20 2014 14:35 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 14:31 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 20 2014 14:25 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 20 2014 14:17 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 20 2014 14:12 wei2coolman wrote:
"basically botrk is better alone but bt is way better if you're good at the game"-doublelift
in regards to why he goes BT (q max first) over BotRK (w max first) on vayne.

Continues, to explain that 2nd item timing of PD + BT is better than BotRK + PD, etc etc.

it was mentioned in LR before, just wanting to clarify if people didn't understand why DL did BT first on Vayne.

ELI5: pure AD for ADCs is better if you know how to position yourself.
True fax.

You watch that CLG game yet?

Not yet, probably will tomorrow morning.

And you call yourself a fan.

too busy getting asian bread.
that's how much faith he has left in clg.
liftlift > tsm
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
January 20 2014 06:15 GMT
#1125
--- Nuked ---
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
January 20 2014 06:37 GMT
#1126
On January 20 2014 15:15 boesthius wrote:
i can feel the potential inside of me

that's gas, not potential
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Magus
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada450 Posts
January 20 2014 06:39 GMT
#1127
On January 20 2014 12:07 Amui wrote:
Well apparently my school made it to CSL LoL north champions. Kinda disappointed that I could've been on that team if I didn't have a full engineering courseload last sem but oh well, RL OP.

Do you go to SFU? Saw some posts on Facebook about SFU having a team in NACC.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-20 07:01:39
January 20 2014 06:53 GMT
#1128
On January 20 2014 15:39 Magus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 12:07 Amui wrote:
Well apparently my school made it to CSL LoL north champions. Kinda disappointed that I could've been on that team if I didn't have a full engineering courseload last sem but oh well, RL OP.

Do you go to SFU? Saw some posts on Facebook about SFU having a team in NACC.

Yeah. Couldn't quite make CSL team because last semester was 10-12 hours a day of school, every single day. I know/met 3/5 of the people on that team though, so I guess I'm happy for them.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
January 20 2014 06:54 GMT
#1129
On January 20 2014 15:53 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 15:39 Magus wrote:
On January 20 2014 12:07 Amui wrote:
Well apparently my school made it to CSL LoL north champions. Kinda disappointed that I could've been on that team if I didn't have a full engineering courseload last sem but oh well, RL OP.

Do you go to SFU? Saw some posts on Facebook about SFU having a team in NACC.

Yeah. Couldn't quite make CSL team because last semester was 10-12 hours a day of school, every single day.

Drop school so you can live the dream of compet- I mean, lose qualification for the tournament.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
January 20 2014 06:59 GMT
#1130
Bjergsen streaming Akali game, gotta love that.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
January 20 2014 07:22 GMT
#1131
Butts, was hoping for at worst bronze 2. Bronze 3 here I come..

No, can't let the guy that wanted ad play ad. Then force him to elise top when he says he can't do it multiple times and them complain when he feeds tryn. Makes total sense.
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
January 20 2014 07:31 GMT
#1132
I'm looking for an ADC that plays similar to Vayne, as I'm having a blast with her. Any suggestions?
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
January 20 2014 07:43 GMT
#1133
On January 20 2014 16:31 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
I'm looking for an ADC that plays similar to Vayne, as I'm having a blast with her. Any suggestions?


Quinn feels quite similar in my opinion.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
January 20 2014 07:59 GMT
#1134
BTW I had a long break from LoL but I need to ask this question :D

WHAT HAPPENED TO GRACKIS? :D
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
January 20 2014 08:26 GMT
#1135
On January 20 2014 16:43 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 16:31 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
I'm looking for an ADC that plays similar to Vayne, as I'm having a blast with her. Any suggestions?


Quinn feels quite similar in my opinion.

Does Quinn really do that much damage though? I love that Vayne can just go HAM 24/7 in small skirmishes, I figured maybe Draven is similiar.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 20 2014 08:54 GMT
#1136
On January 20 2014 16:43 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 16:31 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
I'm looking for an ADC that plays similar to Vayne, as I'm having a blast with her. Any suggestions?


Quinn feels quite similar in my opinion.


please don't compare an awesome adc like quinn to a lame adc like vayne.
:3
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
January 20 2014 09:13 GMT
#1137
On January 20 2014 16:59 739 wrote:
BTW I had a long break from LoL but I need to ask this question :D

WHAT HAPPENED TO GRACKIS? :D

who?

+ Show Spoiler +
More seriously, I don't think anyone's heard from him in ages now
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-20 09:28:23
January 20 2014 09:18 GMT
#1138
On January 20 2014 18:13 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 16:59 739 wrote:
BTW I had a long break from LoL but I need to ask this question :D

WHAT HAPPENED TO GRACKIS? :D

who?

+ Show Spoiler +
More seriously, I don't think anyone's heard from him in ages now

Was fun sometimes to watch him raging 24/7. Also Guardsman Bob streaming nowadays? I've seen him playing ranked games but dunno if he keeps streaming, remember it was one of my favourite streams.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
January 20 2014 09:25 GMT
#1139
On January 20 2014 14:17 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2014 14:12 wei2coolman wrote:
"basically botrk is better alone but bt is way better if you're good at the game"-doublelift
in regards to why he goes BT (q max first) over BotRK (w max first) on vayne.

Continues, to explain that 2nd item timing of PD + BT is better than BotRK + PD, etc etc.

it was mentioned in LR before, just wanting to clarify if people didn't understand why DL did BT first on Vayne.

ELI5: pure AD for ADCs is better if you know how to position yourself.
True fax.


how can people talk about "2 item timings" for ADC with a straight face.

dem op wet noodle timings.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
January 20 2014 09:49 GMT
#1140
The anatomy of CLG:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1vnhx1/the_clg_anatomy/
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
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