On January 19 2014 00:01 turdburgler wrote: ye but everyone here said i was dumb saying iceborn is best on nasus because he already has a slow, and since this place is smug central it helps to remind people that other opinions can be useful sometimes :O
The question never was about "which sheen item do I buy" but more "do I buy a sheen item at all" - cause if you're not getting a sheen item, you probably aren't even buying an offensive item at all. Nasus doesn't need any offensive items to do sick damage. And at some point late in the game, LW is going to do way more damage than any other offensive item you tack onto him.
This is probably not true for a typical game.
Triforce probably adds more damage than LW unless you're at some stupid 70 minute long 1000 stacks point. Just a guess.
ok by just guessing you don't get anywhere. let us estimate:
assumption: 400 damage on Q total (thats about 200 cs + base damage) enemy 150 armor (about 1 armor item + runes + base etc.)
damage with triforce on Q: ~400 + ~180 ~= 580 after reduction taking spirit fire into account you deal half damage against a 100 armor target: ~580 / ~2 ~= 290
damage with lw: ~400 + 40 ~= 440 damage after reduction + spirit fire is against a 57.5 armor target which reduces damage for about 25%: ~440 * 0.75 = 330.
You definitely get more damage/gold from LW after just 1 bigger armor item. squishy champions often have 1 minor armor item like zonyas or GA which gives them about 130 armor in total so you still deal more damage with your Q. Things only get better in favor of LW the more stacks you get on Q and the more armor some of the bruisers get.
This is so very wrong.
Nasus has 116 AD at level 18. 200 stacks would give him 310 bonus Q damage.
So a Triforce Q would do 703 damage after averaging 10% crit, and a LW Q would do 466 damage.
Spirit Fire is armor reduction, not armor pen, so is counted before % penetration. Your 150 armor target has 110 armor vs. Trinity and 71.5 armor vs. LW.
So your Trinity Q does 330 damage and your LW Q does 270 damage.
Factoring the attack speed and assuming 40% CDR since that's good on Nasus, your DPS vs. this target: With Trinity: 234 With LW: 202
Not to mention the 30 AP on Trinity increases your E damage by 36 and your R damage by 4.5% max HP.
I obviously did not assume lvl 18 stats at all (200 cs, 150 armor, mentioning how LW gets more costefficient later in the game etc.). you are comparing the lvl 18 base damage against 150 armor which you only get vs squishies at lvl 18 where at least two opponents will have randuins+some other major armor item (randuins also lowers the dps of triforce more).
my spirit fire calculation is apparently false in the other hand you have it up only for not even half of the time which favors LW more in this case.
but again your numbers show about the same result: about the same damage for 1500 more gold even with the lvl 18 base damage against a squishy target. while more Q stacks + more opponent armor favors LW.
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On January 19 2014 03:47 wei2coolman wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZam9uAblDw I can imagine this happening after reading everyone's "lol, dropped so many divisions after placements"
On January 19 2014 03:47 wei2coolman wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZam9uAblDw I can imagine this happening after reading everyone's "lol, dropped so many divisions after placements"
LOL ahahahahahha. Those punches tho
judging by the rest of his walls this is not an isolated incident
On January 19 2014 03:47 wei2coolman wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZam9uAblDw I can imagine this happening after reading everyone's "lol, dropped so many divisions after placements"
LOL ahahahahahha. Those punches tho
Darn, that's a soft wall. o_O Do they use different materials or something
Reminds me of when my friend's memory card got corrupted(with like 8 world records for F-Zero GX time trials) and he punched through his door and broke his hand.
On January 18 2014 19:05 Scip wrote: The point of MMR isn't to masturbate watching your massive throbbing number increase in size but to guarantee that the matchmaking system can create fun and 50% games, you could make everony gain and lose MMR half as fast as now to stop people from fluking into plat5 but that would defeat the point of mmr and sorf reset kinda does the same thing
On January 19 2014 03:47 wei2coolman wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZam9uAblDw I can imagine this happening after reading everyone's "lol, dropped so many divisions after placements"
Just drywall, not sure what it actually is but its plasterboard its soft as fuck and easy to punch through. Do that to a real wall and you end up with a crippled fist. Its used alot for non-structural walls and post-build design changes
On January 19 2014 04:05 739 wrote: BTW what TL people think about Victor ?
Cue long Alaric post.
Mhm? Should I find it ?
There are a bunch of them, but I'd just peruse the Strategy Thread for Viktor. I was more hoping Alaric would see your post here because he's pretty enthusiastic about Viktor and has a lot of interesting stuff to say about him.
In my opinion Viktor has some fun gameplay elements but overall I just wish he was a bit more mobile and his W wasn't as awkward when used offensively.
And well yeah I just wonder because I tried to punch my wall once and that hurt so badly that I couldn't believe it <_< It hurts even though a pillow. The wooden door's much nicer to punch.
On January 19 2014 00:01 turdburgler wrote: ye but everyone here said i was dumb saying iceborn is best on nasus because he already has a slow, and since this place is smug central it helps to remind people that other opinions can be useful sometimes :O
The question never was about "which sheen item do I buy" but more "do I buy a sheen item at all" - cause if you're not getting a sheen item, you probably aren't even buying an offensive item at all. Nasus doesn't need any offensive items to do sick damage. And at some point late in the game, LW is going to do way more damage than any other offensive item you tack onto him.
This is probably not true for a typical game.
Triforce probably adds more damage than LW unless you're at some stupid 70 minute long 1000 stacks point. Just a guess.
ok by just guessing you don't get anywhere. let us estimate:
assumption: 400 damage on Q total (thats about 200 cs + base damage) enemy 150 armor (about 1 armor item + runes + base etc.)
damage with triforce on Q: ~400 + ~180 ~= 580 after reduction taking spirit fire into account you deal half damage against a 100 armor target: ~580 / ~2 ~= 290
damage with lw: ~400 + 40 ~= 440 damage after reduction + spirit fire is against a 57.5 armor target which reduces damage for about 25%: ~440 * 0.75 = 330.
You definitely get more damage/gold from LW after just 1 bigger armor item. squishy champions often have 1 minor armor item like zonyas or GA which gives them about 130 armor in total so you still deal more damage with your Q. Things only get better in favor of LW the more stacks you get on Q and the more armor some of the bruisers get.
This is so very wrong.
Nasus has 116 AD at level 18. 200 stacks would give him 310 bonus Q damage.
So a Triforce Q would do 703 damage after averaging 10% crit, and a LW Q would do 466 damage.
Spirit Fire is armor reduction, not armor pen, so is counted before % penetration. Your 150 armor target has 110 armor vs. Trinity and 71.5 armor vs. LW.
So your Trinity Q does 330 damage and your LW Q does 270 damage.
Factoring the attack speed and assuming 40% CDR since that's good on Nasus, your DPS vs. this target: With Trinity: 234 With LW: 202
Not to mention the 30 AP on Trinity increases your E damage by 36 and your R damage by 4.5% max HP.
I obviously did not assume lvl 18 stats at all (200 cs, 150 armor, mentioning how LW gets more costefficient later in the game etc.). you are comparing the lvl 18 base damage against 150 armor which you only get vs squishies at lvl 18 where at least two opponents will have randuins+some other major armor item (randuins also lowers the dps of triforce more).
my spirit fire calculation is apparently false in the other hand you have it up only for not even half of the time which favors LW more in this case.
but again your numbers show about the same result: about the same damage for 1500 more gold even with the lvl 18 base damage against a squishy target. while more Q stacks + more opponent armor favors LW.
vs. a 150 armor target you'd need about a 900 stack Q for a LW Q to do more damage than a Trinity Q.
You'd need even more for your overall damage to be higher with LW.
Obviously the more armor they have the fewer stacks you need, but even at 300 armor you'd need around 500 stacks for a LW Q to do more than a Trinity Q, and more than that to do more overall damage with LW.
In terms of cost efficiency, is 250 HP, 200 mana, 30 AP, 8% movespeed and a Phage passive worth 1500g to you?
On January 18 2014 23:28 RouaF wrote: Yes this soft reset thing is strange. My first placement matches I was matched with diamond1/diamond 2 players which is fine since I was like dia 1 30lp. Then I get kev1n in my team (who was challenger) BUT gold/plat guys too, they get absolutely trashed and we lose the game without having a single chance. I queue up again, and boom, kev1in again +plat guys, they get demolished and we lose in 20 minutes again, a bit frustrating (and now rankeds are down xD). Kev1n told me he was 1-4, lol.
Havent played with progamers but yeah had sort of a similiar experience, 1-2 good guys and at least one bronze warrior, the balance is completely in shambles. The games seem like a total lottery
On January 19 2014 03:47 wei2coolman wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZam9uAblDw I can imagine this happening after reading everyone's "lol, dropped so many divisions after placements"
LOL ahahahahahha. Those punches tho
Darn, that's a soft wall. o_O Do they use different materials or something
Reminds me of when my friend's memory card got corrupted(with like 8 world records for F-Zero GX time trials) and he punched through his door and broke his hand.
Drywall is easy to break, as long as it isn't meshed.
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