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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
February 10 2014 09:48 GMT
#4501
On February 10 2014 18:30 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 18:18 Gahlo wrote:
On February 10 2014 16:37 oneofthem wrote:
On February 10 2014 16:26 Gahlo wrote:
Oh man, somebody reddited Chexx's post about somebody in Korea calling Bjergsen "The Faker of America" and soooo many EU fanboys are mega butthurt about it. XD


reddit is like this bunch of hamsters that go off on random things for no apparent reason. some threads get like 500 comments while 10 similar ones get 0

It's all about the front page. Apparently the first 10 votes has the same impact as votes 11-110.

Can't remember the details but it's like the first votes effectively either bury or send a post to the front page.

Yeah, I got my #s from a post by TheEnigmaBlade(an r/LoL mod) from a thread on the DotA2 subreddit where they posted the "we ain't doing nothing fishy" memo from Riot.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
February 10 2014 09:52 GMT
#4502
On February 10 2014 18:30 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 18:18 Gahlo wrote:
On February 10 2014 16:37 oneofthem wrote:
On February 10 2014 16:26 Gahlo wrote:
Oh man, somebody reddited Chexx's post about somebody in Korea calling Bjergsen "The Faker of America" and soooo many EU fanboys are mega butthurt about it. XD


reddit is like this bunch of hamsters that go off on random things for no apparent reason. some threads get like 500 comments while 10 similar ones get 0

It's all about the front page. Apparently the first 10 votes has the same impact as votes 11-110.

Can't remember the details but it's like the first votes effectively either bury or send a post to the front page.


It's something like, if a post ever goes below 0 points, it basically gets vanished from anywhere other then the new page, which cycles every 20 minutes or something on big subs. So if the first 2 votes you get are downvotes, your thread is dead on arrival, whereas if they're upvotes, then you're in the "rising" list and can get to frontpage really fast.
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
February 10 2014 10:02 GMT
#4503
How are people feeling about LeBlanc? I feel like she needs a slight nerf-tap (e.g. Distortion CD increase, especially late or giving her ult a mana cost - costs the same as mimicked ability), but I'm willing to accept it's players making her look good and teams haven't tried enough against her yet.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
February 10 2014 10:18 GMT
#4504
On February 10 2014 19:02 JazzVortical wrote:
How are people feeling about LeBlanc? I feel like she needs a slight nerf-tap (e.g. Distortion CD increase, especially late or giving her ult a mana cost - costs the same as mimicked ability), but I'm willing to accept it's players making her look good and teams haven't tried enough against her yet.

Definitely feel the Mimic cost is a good place to start. Maybe have a scaling increase by how far upscale the mimic is over the original.
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
February 10 2014 10:47 GMT
#4505
On February 10 2014 19:18 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 19:02 JazzVortical wrote:
How are people feeling about LeBlanc? I feel like she needs a slight nerf-tap (e.g. Distortion CD increase, especially late or giving her ult a mana cost - costs the same as mimicked ability), but I'm willing to accept it's players making her look good and teams haven't tried enough against her yet.

Definitely feel the Mimic cost is a good place to start. Maybe have a scaling increase by how far upscale the mimic is over the original.

I don't like the idea of an increased mana cost. She can burn through mana quick enough, and the idea of her having a a no-cost ult trick up her sleeve is nice. What I will agree with, though, is a higher cool-down on Distortion. Make her think a bit more about how she uses it, rather than just being able to spam it and jump back to safety.
"What does Rivington do when he's not commentating?" "Drool." ~ Categorist
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-10 11:07:27
February 10 2014 10:56 GMT
#4506
On February 10 2014 19:47 Cedstick wrote:
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On February 10 2014 19:18 Gahlo wrote:
On February 10 2014 19:02 JazzVortical wrote:
How are people feeling about LeBlanc? I feel like she needs a slight nerf-tap (e.g. Distortion CD increase, especially late or giving her ult a mana cost - costs the same as mimicked ability), but I'm willing to accept it's players making her look good and teams haven't tried enough against her yet.

Definitely feel the Mimic cost is a good place to start. Maybe have a scaling increase by how far upscale the mimic is over the original.

I don't like the idea of an increased mana cost. She can burn through mana quick enough, and the idea of her having a a no-cost ult trick up her sleeve is nice. What I will agree with, though, is a higher cool-down on Distortion. Make her think a bit more about how she uses it, rather than just being able to spam it and jump back to safety.

I slightly disagree on the mana cost thing. She can get by on a Doran or two, and can still cast fairly regularly.

Probably better looking at Distortion though. It's cooldown scales really well (part of why it's now maxed first). Maybe they could also do something like distortion can't be recast for 3 seconds or something. At least you get to hit Kassadin a couple times before he leaves.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 10 2014 12:59 GMT
#4507
There is no way Riot will nerf her W cooldown, because she was previously buffed in that respect. I don’t think Riot has ever reverted a buff/nerf before.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
February 10 2014 13:31 GMT
#4508
I could see it working that you only have one spot to go back on. IE if you ult Distortion, you can only return to the place where you casted it last. So you don't have two places to choose from. Would make her mobility more risky, which suits her playstyle.
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
February 10 2014 13:58 GMT
#4509
On February 10 2014 21:59 Sufficiency wrote:
There is no way Riot will nerf her W cooldown, because she was previously buffed in that respect. I don’t think Riot has ever reverted a buff/nerf before.


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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 10 2014 14:09 GMT
#4510
On February 10 2014 22:58 gtrsrs wrote:
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On February 10 2014 21:59 Sufficiency wrote:
There is no way Riot will nerf her W cooldown, because she was previously buffed in that respect. I don’t think Riot has ever reverted a buff/nerf before.


...


Thanks for your input but maybe you can tell me an example of Riot reverting a buff?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
February 10 2014 14:10 GMT
#4511
On February 10 2014 21:59 Sufficiency wrote:
There is no way Riot will nerf her W cooldown, because she was previously buffed in that respect. I don’t think Riot has ever reverted a buff/nerf before.

You're on a roll today, aren't you?
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 10 2014 14:21 GMT
#4512
On February 10 2014 23:10 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 21:59 Sufficiency wrote:
There is no way Riot will nerf her W cooldown, because she was previously buffed in that respect. I don’t think Riot has ever reverted a buff/nerf before.

You're on a roll today, aren't you?


Do you really think this is a troll comment?

Buffing a champion and nerfing it in the same way makes Riot looks bad and create discontent in the player base.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
February 10 2014 14:26 GMT
#4513
On February 10 2014 23:21 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 23:10 Gahlo wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:59 Sufficiency wrote:
There is no way Riot will nerf her W cooldown, because she was previously buffed in that respect. I don’t think Riot has ever reverted a buff/nerf before.

You're on a roll today, aren't you?


Do you really think this is a troll comment?

Buffing a champion and nerfing it in the same way makes Riot looks bad and create discontent in the player base.

You know what looks worse to players? Creating a problem champion and then refusing to nerf it to try and save face.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 10 2014 14:29 GMT
#4514
On February 10 2014 23:26 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 23:21 Sufficiency wrote:
On February 10 2014 23:10 Gahlo wrote:
On February 10 2014 21:59 Sufficiency wrote:
There is no way Riot will nerf her W cooldown, because she was previously buffed in that respect. I don’t think Riot has ever reverted a buff/nerf before.

You're on a roll today, aren't you?


Do you really think this is a troll comment?

Buffing a champion and nerfing it in the same way makes Riot looks bad and create discontent in the player base.

You know what looks worse to players? Creating a problem champion and then refusing to nerf it to try and save face.



Still looks better than reverting a change completely. Also that is Riot's decison on how to handle these kinds of things, I am just analyzing the reasoning behind it.

I am on a roll indeed.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 10 2014 14:30 GMT
#4515
Probably the #1 way to nerf Leblanc would be to get rid of the -Champion Damage on the Mid turret...
Freeeeeeedom
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
February 10 2014 14:32 GMT
#4516
On February 10 2014 23:30 cLutZ wrote:
Probably the #1 way to nerf Leblanc would be to get rid of the -Champion Damage on the Mid turret...

Why? She's dunk your mid and then get sick tower damage in.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 10 2014 14:33 GMT
#4517
On February 10 2014 23:30 cLutZ wrote:
Probably the #1 way to nerf Leblanc would be to get rid of the -Champion Damage on the Mid turret...




Maybe, but LB nowadays max W first? Her shove is not that bad considering it is somewhat comparable to Lux's E without the on hit passive.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
February 10 2014 14:36 GMT
#4518
ROFL Chexx really opened a can of worms with his "American Faker" tweet
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 10 2014 14:39 GMT
#4519
The change to Mimic damage depending on Mimic level over mimic'd spell level let people max W first without gimping their damage/harass and surprise, now LB can clear reliably and efficiently while still wrecking shit.
Not sure if it's worthy of fixing though, people haven't really reacted to the LB picks specifically.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 10 2014 14:40 GMT
#4520
No it was monte's fault.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
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