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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On February 10 2014 23:32 Gahlo wrote: Why? She's dunk your mid and then get sick tower damage in. Meh. Better buff Orianna then. Or shift more of LB's power to chains. Chains is a more interesting skill... | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On February 10 2014 23:29 Sufficiency wrote: Still looks better than reverting a change completely. Also that is Riot's decison on how to handle these kinds of things, I am just analyzing the reasoning behind it. I am on a roll indeed. http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1xicc6/so_ive_been_reading_quite_a_bit_of_diana/cfbnb5e Yes, yes you are. e. Also, I only needed to search through(s3/4) till Akali till I found a modified change. V3.5 (Balance Updates): Shadow Dance Essence of Shadow charge rate increased to 35/25/15 seconds from 25/20/15. V3.7: Shadow Dance Essence of Shadow charge time reduced to 30/22.5/15 seconds from 35/25/15. | ||
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killerdog
Denmark6522 Posts
Or a small range nerf on the w. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
Have you actually played a good amount of leblanc/vs LB games? | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On February 10 2014 23:41 Gahlo wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1xicc6/so_ive_been_reading_quite_a_bit_of_diana/cfbnb5e Yes, yes you are. e. Also, I only needed to search through(s3/4) till Akali till I found a modified change. V3.5 (Balance Updates): Shadow Dance Essence of Shadow charge rate increased to 35/25/15 seconds from 25/20/15. V3.7: Shadow Dance Essence of Shadow charge time reduced to 30/22.5/15 seconds from 35/25/15. So I missed some of the changes, ops. The Diana thing, I don't know what to say. Her greatest weakness is her pre6. If she has R at level 1 she can: 1. If she lands Q on you pre 6 she will zone you for days. 2. Makes her jungle ridiculously overpowered. Reddit kept saying a lot of champions can gapclose at level 1, but that does not mean giving Diana gap closer at level 1 is acceptable. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On February 10 2014 23:46 AsnSensation wrote: Leblanc hasn't even been in the spotlight for a month and you guys already talk about nerfs..... Have you actually played a good amount of leblanc/vs LB games? I think LB is fine, I just like her Chains move a lot. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On February 10 2014 23:51 cLutZ wrote: I think LB is fine, I just like her Chains move a lot. Her chain is so deceptive. It looks like a chain but it works like any other skillshots in the game. So if she moves after casting E her chain's point of origin moves with her but E's direction does not. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On February 10 2014 23:48 Sufficiency wrote: So I missed some of the changes, ops. The Diana thing, I don't know what to say. Her greatest weakness is her pre6. If she has R at level 1 she can: 1. If she lands Q on you pre 6 she will zone you for days. 2. Makes her jungle ridiculously overpowered. Reddit kept saying a lot of champions can gapclose at level 1, but that does not mean giving Diana gap closer at level 1 is acceptable. You also failed to take into acount the part in the OP where #s would be balanced to make up for the change. 1. As opposed to the being the champion that gets zoned till 6 in most of her matchups? Heaven forbid an assassin has a targeted gap closer that can be taken at level 1(Kat & Talon off the top of my head.) 2. Her ganks suck dick before 6. Her ganks would play out like Xin's pre 6 without the cc of a popup. At least this way she could actually do some damage. You're right. The melee champion might actually auto attack somebody. Quelle horreur. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On February 10 2014 23:56 Gahlo wrote: You also failed to take into acount the part in the OP where #s would be balanced to make up for the change. 1. As opposed to the being the champion that gets zoned till 6 in most of her matchups? Heaven forbid an assassin has a targeted gap closer that can be taken at level 1(Kat & Talon off the top of my head.) 2. Her ganks suck dick before 6. Her ganks would play out like Xin's pre 6 without the cc of a popup. At least this way she could actually do some damage. You're right. The melee champion might actually auto attack somebody. Quelle horreur. You are joking right? Do you know how much damage her passive + q + w can do? It is not even remotely comparable to Katarina and Talon. To adjust her numbers accordingly is problematic. It is a vague defense to a bad solution. I can make practically any changes to any champion so long as I 'adjust numbers accordingly'. Her role is currently this awkward fighter tank assassin initiator and that is her core problem. Swapping her R and E causes too much stress to her other parts of the kit so by doing so you might as well remake her into a different champion. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21247 Posts
On February 10 2014 23:48 Sufficiency wrote: So I missed some of the changes, ops. So kids, what's the lesson here about trying to make absolute statements about things you don't have knowledge of? That's right! Don't do it! | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
On February 11 2014 00:09 Sufficiency wrote: Reddit also thinks making surrender timer earlier with leaver is a good idea. The general opinions of reddit is really bad. That doesn't mean that it's impossible to give a melee champion their gap closer earlier and then rebalance the numbers. If you gave Diana her current ult at lvl1? yes that would be OP. I am shocked that we have identified that, and it is not at all what was being talked about. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On February 10 2014 23:46 AsnSensation wrote: Leblanc hasn't even been in the spotlight for a month and you guys already talk about nerfs..... Have you actually played a good amount of leblanc/vs LB games? Welcome to Teamliquid, hope you enjoy the conversations. | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1xip24/42_patch_notes_is_up_on_garena_includes_skarner/ | ||
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EchOne
United States2906 Posts
On February 11 2014 00:09 Sufficiency wrote: Reddit also thinks making surrender timer earlier with leaver is a good idea. The general opinions of reddit is really bad. Wait maybe I'm misunderstanding what they mean but why is that not a good idea? If I'm in a 3v5 or 4v5 situation and I have the opportunity to legitimately terminate the game earlier, I'm going to take that option and appreciate it. | ||
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RouaF
France4121 Posts
On February 11 2014 00:21 kongoline wrote: garena has 4.2 patch notes http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1xip24/42_patch_notes_is_up_on_garena_includes_skarner/ The thresh change is hilarious. Rita go home you're drunk. This won't change anything. Also i'm so sad the doran shield change didn't make it, melee support and tanky top domination continues yay | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On February 11 2014 00:21 kongoline wrote: garena has 4.2 patch notes http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1xip24/42_patch_notes_is_up_on_garena_includes_skarner/ Perseverance nerfed! Yay! | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On February 11 2014 00:37 RouaF wrote: The thresh change is hilarious. Rita go home you're drunk. This won't change anything. Also i'm so sad the doran shield change didn't make it, melee support and tanky top domination continues yay I think it is still significant. His auto harass does a lot f damage so the range nerf will hurt him. Especially when his range is already pretty short. | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
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Yezzus
United States2318 Posts
On February 11 2014 00:21 kongoline wrote: garena has 4.2 patch notes http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1xip24/42_patch_notes_is_up_on_garena_includes_skarner/ Looks like a serious buff for Ashe (no sarcasm) | ||
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