EPT[Patch 4.1] Season 4 Start General Discussion - Page 160
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canikizu
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
And if so, am I suppose to still be Q maxing with it? | ||
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Yezzus
United States2318 Posts
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ArchAngelSC
England706 Posts
On February 02 2014 12:16 wei2coolman wrote: So after seeing this a couple times on the bug, is E evolve first really a thing? And if so, am I suppose to still be Q maxing with it? I thought I was the only one who evolved E first >.> I still max Q though | ||
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Shiznick
United States2200 Posts
On February 02 2014 12:20 Yezzus wrote: Do you guys think Irelia is viable atm in soloque? Please np (anything is viable in soloque). I mean if you want to win /carry. i just imagine her as a jax that falls off late game. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Jax can fight a bruiser, Irelia weeps against Renekton/Nasus/Mundo, champions building sunfire first (or anything that gets away with belt first), stuff that can push her under tower then roam, stuff that can disengage when she presses W and wreck her as soon as it stops (Kha'Zix/Renekton/Zed/etc.), she doesn't have an AoE cc, she doesn't even have a hard cc in normal circumstances if she gets the jump on someone, she loses more of her damage than Zed if she gets cc'd/her target escapes once W is activated, so... She's viable, sure, but if you want to carry there's way better than an assassin whose damage is dps. Like Kha'Zix, an assassin with burst he actually maintain as his dps. | ||
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hahagag
United States16 Posts
On February 02 2014 11:53 canikizu wrote: Does WildTurtle have any accounts in Challenger right now? He has one called long cat 4. I'm pretty sure he changed TSM CAT to that. | ||
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Yezzus
United States2318 Posts
On February 02 2014 12:26 Shiznick wrote: i just imagine her as a jax that falls off late game. What makes her fall off late game? She can burst down a carry pretty well and is good at catching people out of position/making mistakes | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Jax doesn't have this problem since he's based on dps, the uptime of his W and ult passive is basically "always". You're looking at something like 150 dps post-mitigation from her W with 1.5 as and assuming she can hit all 6s, there are a bunch of champions who can do more than that with their kits. | ||
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Cheap0
United States540 Posts
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
Otherwise if you're expecting to be farming in the jungle more than ganking/fighting for the 6 - 11 range, Q evolve first is still generally better for the increased range + dmg. on Q. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On February 02 2014 11:53 canikizu wrote: Does WildTurtle have any accounts in Challenger right now? Yeah, all of them. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
On February 02 2014 12:20 Yezzus wrote: Do you guys think Irelia is viable atm in soloque? Please np (anything is viable in soloque). I mean if you want to win /carry. I still play her but... no. Absolutely not. She's in a sad state after compounding (indirect and direct) nerfs. | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
On February 02 2014 12:28 Alaric wrote: They evolve Q in lane and E in the jungle/if they want to roam. Q does a metric fuckton of damage even unevolved on a short as heck cd so it doesn't matter anyway, still plenty enough to burst someone when it's a 2v1/3v2 situation. Jax can fight a bruiser, Irelia weeps against Renekton/Nasus/Mundo, champions building sunfire first (or anything that gets away with belt first), stuff that can push her under tower then roam, stuff that can disengage when she presses W and wreck her as soon as it stops (Kha'Zix/Renekton/Zed/etc.), she doesn't have an AoE cc, she doesn't even have a hard cc in normal circumstances if she gets the jump on someone, she loses more of her damage than Zed if she gets cc'd/her target escapes once W is activated, so... She's viable, sure, but if you want to carry there's way better than an assassin whose damage is dps. Like Kha'Zix, an assassin with burst he actually maintain as his dps. im pretty sure irelia wrecks khazix though | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
Only one is in challenger for season 4. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5714 Posts
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Talack
Canada2742 Posts
On February 02 2014 12:20 Yezzus wrote: Do you guys think Irelia is viable atm in soloque? Please np (anything is viable in soloque). I mean if you want to win /carry. She is just outclassed by too many heros, her laning phase is very weak and her mid-late game is nothing special. There are just...much better options availiable. | ||
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NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Netherlands1242 Posts
On January 31 2014 23:22 GrandInquisitor wrote: In a recent funny game, my Silver I buddy asked for jungle and pointed to his lolking. Third pick, this Gold V 0 LP dude, was talking shit to him: "Yeah you are 19-2 on Vi but that's just vs bronze scrubs, Imma jungle cause Gold > Silver." Loading screen: he has a Silver border, my buddy has his Season 3 Gold border. Jungler proceeds to go 2-5-3, my buddy goes 8-2-5. Team loses because, shockingly, an underfarmed glass cannon Warwick is not particularly useful in teamfights. I know you're a super cool mod and stuff, but please keep these posts in the QQ thread. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On February 02 2014 11:34 GolemMadness wrote: FQC is worth the least gold from its stats, has the worst active, is less reliable for gold generation and is the only one that gives no CDR. COME ON. Yeah I agree. FQC should give at least 10% CDR while Talisman should only give 10% CDR. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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