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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Fusilero
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On February 02 2014 02:32 Fusilero wrote: A few months late on looking at dorans shield but better late than never I suppose I feel the health should stay the way it is at 100, cutting regen by a half is totally reasonable. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On February 02 2014 02:38 Slayer91 wrote: i kinda liked dorans shield supporst tho so many free ganks bot lane But even with Doran Shield start the bot lane still starts with two ward trinkets. That's plenty of defense against a jungler gank until the first back. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On February 02 2014 02:46 Sufficiency wrote: But even with Doran Shield start the bot lane still starts with two ward trinkets. That's plenty of defense against a jungler gank until the first back. Depends.In some lanes it is very hard to ward. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 02 2014 02:29 Fusilero wrote: Zed gets lots of free AD from his W and his passive means that last hitting under the turret is easy without flat AD so he gets much more throughout the game from armour pen. Isn't that more reason to run flat AD though? Cuz you get more value from it due to damage amplification on his W. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On February 02 2014 02:46 Sufficiency wrote: But even with Doran Shield start the bot lane still starts with two ward trinkets. That's plenty of defense against a jungler gank until the first back. What? Both wards last 60 seconds, they have to cover 2 routes, and 90%+ people need them to ward brushes to not lose lane I always just come from behind, at worst they have a ward in the shitty brush to cover both routes but it gives no reaction time if they dont see it coming | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On February 02 2014 02:51 wei2coolman wrote: Are they going to lower the cost of dshield with this change? Isn't that more reason to run flat AD though? Cuz you get more value from it due to damage amplification on his W. Idk it's what I hear for the reasoning behind ArPen over AD maybe someone a bit more technical could lay it out | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On February 02 2014 02:49 nafta wrote: Depends.In some lanes it is very hard to ward. Well, generally speaking a level 2 gank from a jungler with only one buff is not going to succeed. For a gank to happen the earliest is after both buffs are done (3:00~3:20ish). Even so, since you can often tell where the enemy jungler started with (say you are on blue side and the enemy jungler did blue -> red), you can tell if a gank can possibly come. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On February 02 2014 03:03 Sufficiency wrote: Well, generally speaking a level 2 gank from a jungler with only one buff is not going to succeed. For a gank to happen the earliest is after both buffs are done (3:00~3:20ish). Even so, since you can often tell where the enemy jungler started with (say you are on blue side and the enemy jungler did blue -> red), you can tell if a gank can possibly come. That is not what I am talking about at all.If you are playing say a leona/lucian vs jinx/thresh-you cant go to ward anything if they keep the wave slighlty towards you unless they are bad.Or you will take some good damage for it. | ||
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Yezzus
United States2318 Posts
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WiseBagus
Canada452 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Also, sweet Vayne trick if people didn't know, was to side tumble into walls when you're attacking, to minimize the overall tumble animation, so you have highest amount of dps possible. | ||
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dae
Canada1600 Posts
On February 02 2014 04:10 WiseBagus wrote: CS/Min seems like the next blacklisted topic, every discussions ends up with the exact same conclusion. Personally, I feel like there are 4 types of CS in the game, free, contested, impossible, and other peoples. Free cs is when no hero on the other team can punish you for trying to get it. Contested is when you have to go in range of their abilities/they can engage and or damage you for going for it, or it makes you vulnerable to a gank. Impossible is when it's suicidal to try and go for it. Other peoples cs is when they have the ability and intent to get it, and you take it before they can, aka taking a big wave top or bot before they can get there. This all changes depending on what hero your playing, what hero your playing against, as for example as Ziggs I pretty much think of the entire lanes farm as free, due to the massive range and safety of him, whereas on zed there are alot more contested cs, like every time you last hit with an aa. How much cs is free vs contested vs impossible also depends how the lane is going, as if your losing, more is contested/impossible but if your winning hard its all free, but thats a laning problem not a csing problem. I've always just had it in my mind that I should get 100% of free cs(including under tower), and 100% of contested cs I decide to go for. How much of other peoples cs to take is more of a social issue imo. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Fildun
Netherlands4124 Posts
On February 02 2014 04:45 cLutZ wrote: This new ashe skin is ridiculous. Rainbow Ashe. LOL so good. I'm still waiting for rainbow Ezreal :/ | ||
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FaCE_1
Canada6184 Posts
I'm silv IV currently palying vs mostly gold V and silv I and im just starting my promo | ||
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
On February 02 2014 04:17 wei2coolman wrote: Just saw some pretty smooth Ziggs trick. tossing satchel charge, and flashing to the correct spot on the satchel charge, and activating it, got him to fly over wall. I guess it's smoother than tossing and activating charge, and flashing over wall. Also, sweet Vayne trick if people didn't know, was to side tumble into walls when you're attacking, to minimize the overall tumble animation, so you have highest amount of dps possible. It's somewhat riskier because on some walls it's hard to jump over with Satchel and you look like an idiot by flying into a wall. (you're talking about the Ziggs on qtpies stream right? when I saw him do that I was thinking 'oh god don't fuck that up') | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On February 02 2014 05:12 FaCE_1 wrote: can u jump from more then 1 rank when you have a high mmr? I'm silv IV currently palying vs mostly gold V and silv I and im just starting my promo Yes. I did gold 5 -> 3 twice. | ||
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