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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51457 Posts
January 30 2014 06:31 GMT
#2861
Reapered on Twitch with no English commentary yet has 2k viewers.
Should just stream full-time.
Commentator
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 30 2014 06:40 GMT
#2862
On January 30 2014 14:53 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2014 14:35 cLutZ wrote:
I find it interesting that when Riot created the 3 GP10 Starting items they decided to leave out Avarice Blade, and didn't put in an AD option. Considering how easy it would be to make one, and give it a rubbish active (like 2/3 of the GP10s have anyways), and how it would have made tons of people try funny, and probably eventually bad, stuff, its surprising they didn't even try.


Avarice Blade has the problem of the other GP10 items - you get the gold IN ADDITION to last hitting. It didn't get removed because it's a bad item.


Confused at what you tried to say.

On January 30 2014 14:54 Vlanitak wrote:
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On January 30 2014 14:27 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 30 2014 14:21 Vlanitak wrote:
On January 30 2014 13:16 Cyro wrote:
On January 29 2014 14:42 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 29 2014 13:34 Cyro wrote:
Did the -20 dmg on champion auto attacks on mid/top but not bot outer turrets go through?

According to Morello, it's only supposed to be a temporary measure until they figure out something more elegant. It was also only supposed to last the first 8 minutes of the game.

However, I have my doubts.


It worries me :S I don't want this game to be forced into one "meta" where everyone just takes adc+support bot, whatever is FOTM mid, a tanky jungler and some top laner, it's bad enough playing solo queue

dw working to make sure that wont ever be the case ^^

Damn, the hype is real. Waiting for the 4 support + kog level shit.

cant promise that one buddy... unless... hm actually hold on to that thought
on a more serious note: testing new things is never out of the question, as long as you can back it up somehow


Lulu mid + Soraka Jungle. Try it, record VODS, give to us if you feel is not LCS worthy, else play in LCS. Simple.
Freeeeeeedom
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
January 30 2014 07:33 GMT
#2863
cant give you scrims vods sorry, but Ill throw the idea at the team and see what they think
washed
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
January 30 2014 07:45 GMT
#2864
Everything went smooth for me until I've hit 100pts and been playing promo games.

1st game one guy picks LeeSin for support, other guy first picks TF and I go top. TF proceed to feed massively Lux, Vayne feeds 0/4 bot lane and decides to go afk. 1st promo lost.

2nd game opponent team picked my Zed so I've decided to pick Ziggs mid (vs Zed). I've managed to buttfuck him somehow and end up 4-0 after laning stage, we pick some drakes, win some teamfights. Then my team decides to throw the game away, got aced near the Nashors pit, got aced once more near our base, because they'd always split like mofos and game was done.

0-2 so far, I don't think I can win another 3 games if I get such teammates. Games before the promotions were easy, I've carried my team with Zed with like 13-2/16-2 stats in every single game.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
January 30 2014 08:09 GMT
#2865
On January 30 2014 15:31 GTR wrote:
Reapered on Twitch with no English commentary yet has 2k viewers.
Should just stream full-time.

yea he would get higher numbers if he was matched up with some star players.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 30 2014 08:27 GMT
#2866
On January 30 2014 16:45 739 wrote:
Everything went smooth for me until I've hit 100pts and been playing promo games.

1st game one guy picks LeeSin for support, other guy first picks TF and I go top. TF proceed to feed massively Lux, Vayne feeds 0/4 bot lane and decides to go afk. 1st promo lost.

2nd game opponent team picked my Zed so I've decided to pick Ziggs mid (vs Zed). I've managed to buttfuck him somehow and end up 4-0 after laning stage, we pick some drakes, win some teamfights. Then my team decides to throw the game away, got aced near the Nashors pit, got aced once more near our base, because they'd always split like mofos and game was done.

0-2 so far, I don't think I can win another 3 games if I get such teammates. Games before the promotions were easy, I've carried my team with Zed with like 13-2/16-2 stats in every single game.

tis not the qq thread
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
January 30 2014 08:30 GMT
#2867
On January 30 2014 08:19 Fusilero wrote:
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On January 30 2014 08:17 cLutZ wrote:
On January 30 2014 08:07 Fusilero wrote:
On January 30 2014 08:05 Alaric wrote:
^ what? I assume it's a WoW boss or something?

You mean at level 18? It's still around 1s for most of the game (a bit less early on and he gets fucked super hard by the slow animation). Not that it's bad, but the difference is noticeable, think Jinx's E normalisation and Annie's passive nerf.

I think that naut in his current state if it wasn't for how dominant early game oriented junglers like elise/lee/vi are would be fantastic but well late game junglers just feel like a pretty big risk that most teams are unwilling to take (Until roccat do it ofc)


The problem isn't that they are dominant (as in, why those junglers are bleh), its that the jungle itself dominates some of these junglers. Maokai and Nautilus probably could smite blue (like, at the start if you didnt fear any invade) then go straight to red and smite might be back up in time. Plus, they would be at like 40% Life.

I still don't get why they decided to make the jungle hard to kill and do decent damage.

I feel like wight is a massive gating problem, junglers that can take it down reasonably has a massive advantage over anyone else. I don't think double golems is that bad for naut/maokai etc but they'll lose an absurd amount of time compared the big three taking wight and will probably take a beating in the process


People take Wight? I never touch that thing unless I'm waiting for Top/bot to push before a gank.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 30 2014 08:41 GMT
#2868
On January 30 2014 17:30 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2014 08:19 Fusilero wrote:
On January 30 2014 08:17 cLutZ wrote:
On January 30 2014 08:07 Fusilero wrote:
On January 30 2014 08:05 Alaric wrote:
^ what? I assume it's a WoW boss or something?

You mean at level 18? It's still around 1s for most of the game (a bit less early on and he gets fucked super hard by the slow animation). Not that it's bad, but the difference is noticeable, think Jinx's E normalisation and Annie's passive nerf.

I think that naut in his current state if it wasn't for how dominant early game oriented junglers like elise/lee/vi are would be fantastic but well late game junglers just feel like a pretty big risk that most teams are unwilling to take (Until roccat do it ofc)


The problem isn't that they are dominant (as in, why those junglers are bleh), its that the jungle itself dominates some of these junglers. Maokai and Nautilus probably could smite blue (like, at the start if you didnt fear any invade) then go straight to red and smite might be back up in time. Plus, they would be at like 40% Life.

I still don't get why they decided to make the jungle hard to kill and do decent damage.

I feel like wight is a massive gating problem, junglers that can take it down reasonably has a massive advantage over anyone else. I don't think double golems is that bad for naut/maokai etc but they'll lose an absurd amount of time compared the big three taking wight and will probably take a beating in the process


People take Wight? I never touch that thing unless I'm waiting for Top/bot to push before a gank.

I always take wight as khaziks, auto isolation makes quick work of it.
liftlift > tsm
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 30 2014 08:44 GMT
#2869
Wight gives a ton of gold and exp. Also conveniently located if you're blue side and camping top. Or purple side camping bot.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
January 30 2014 08:49 GMT
#2870
wight is really jungler dependant. Most lizard/wraith stone junglers can do it without issues, but those who are almost exclusively golem have a really hard time. Only some junglers can take it without massive expenditure of resources.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35152 Posts
January 30 2014 09:11 GMT
#2871
I think I take Wight more as Renekton while counter jungling than as a jungler. @_@
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
January 30 2014 09:20 GMT
#2872
Guys.

Lulu's Whimsy lasts longer than Fiddle's Terrify at all ranks now, with a longer range.

Bottom lane is amazing.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
January 30 2014 09:22 GMT
#2873
Champs that are not banned all the time that are capable of carrying a game even when they fall behind:
Vi - cause no one can figure out how she does so much dmg and is unkillable at the same time.
Akali - cause people forgot how to play against her
Rumble - cause people think they can face tank the flamethrower w/o lifesteal and win trades once they buy a negatron or cowl.
im deaf
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 30 2014 09:25 GMT
#2874
On January 30 2014 18:20 silencefc wrote:
Guys.

Lulu's Whimsy lasts longer than Fiddle's Terrify at all ranks now, with a longer range.

Bottom lane is amazing.

Lulu whimsy duration reduced to 2.25 seconds
Glorious SEA doto
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
January 30 2014 09:38 GMT
#2875
On January 30 2014 18:22 imBLIND wrote:
Champs that are not banned all the time that are capable of carrying a game even when they fall behind:
Vi - cause no one can figure out how she does so much dmg and is unkillable at the same time.
Akali - cause people forgot how to play against her
Rumble - cause people think they can face tank the flamethrower w/o lifesteal and win trades once they buy a negatron or cowl.

I see Vi banned occasionally, but she has major carry potential. Akali seems like once she's behind, she stays there. I haven't seen a Rumble in months, but I've heard.... rumblings.... that Rumble mid is super good.

I'd add Orianna to the list. One good ult and it turns the game right around. Never gets banned either.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-30 09:48:48
January 30 2014 09:42 GMT
#2876
On January 30 2014 18:38 JazzVortical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2014 18:22 imBLIND wrote:
Champs that are not banned all the time that are capable of carrying a game even when they fall behind:
Vi - cause no one can figure out how she does so much dmg and is unkillable at the same time.
Akali - cause people forgot how to play against her
Rumble - cause people think they can face tank the flamethrower w/o lifesteal and win trades once they buy a negatron or cowl.

I see Vi banned occasionally, but she has major carry potential. Akali seems like once she's behind, she stays there. I haven't seen a Rumble in months, but I've heard.... rumblings.... that Rumble mid is super good.

I'd add Orianna to the list. One good ult and it turns the game right around. Never gets banned either.

The thing about yolo queue akali is that if akali can catch one person going full retard especially the ADC no matter how bad her lane went she can snowball hard off it. Rumble is always useful because he only really needs a bit of magic pen to have good impact.
Tryndamere and jax are also in the same boat as akali, once they hit a decent point they can snowball off someone going full retard.
I'd also throw in tristana, people can sometimes get caught by explosive shot and get bullied hard and the reset on rocket jump + burst on her ult can allow you to make some solo picks if you're starting to snowball.
Glorious SEA doto
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-30 09:53:52
January 30 2014 09:53 GMT
#2877
On January 30 2014 18:25 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2014 18:20 silencefc wrote:
Guys.

Lulu's Whimsy lasts longer than Fiddle's Terrify at all ranks now, with a longer range.

Bottom lane is amazing.

Lulu whimsy duration reduced to 2.25 seconds


??

Still 2.5s at max rank in Patch 4.1 and I don't see any PBE notes mentioning it anywhere.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 30 2014 09:54 GMT
#2878
On January 30 2014 18:53 silencefc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2014 18:25 Fusilero wrote:
On January 30 2014 18:20 silencefc wrote:
Guys.

Lulu's Whimsy lasts longer than Fiddle's Terrify at all ranks now, with a longer range.

Bottom lane is amazing.

Lulu whimsy duration reduced to 2.25 seconds


??

Still 2.5s at max rank in Patch 4.1 and I don't see any PBE notes mentioning it anywhere.

It's a joke about whimsy lasting longer than terrify don't worry
Glorious SEA doto
Zizoz
Profile Joined June 2012
United States232 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-30 10:19:56
January 30 2014 10:18 GMT
#2879
Anyone else get an "update failed" due to unspecified error? My loading screen froze and I thought I'd relaunch the client to see if it helped, but I can't even reach the login screen now.
Edit: Well, it went away. Unfortunately I've now missed a big chunk of my game...
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35152 Posts
January 30 2014 10:18 GMT
#2880
On January 30 2014 18:20 silencefc wrote:
Guys.

Lulu's Whimsy lasts longer than Fiddle's Terrify at all ranks now, with a longer range.

Bottom lane is amazing.

I read that as "Lil Whimsy"

Rita, Thungged out Lulu skin plz.
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