EPT[Patch 4.1] Season 4 Start General Discussion - Page 137
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
On January 30 2014 02:25 Dusty wrote: any playable mid atm counters TF in one way or another I think, in fact that's how it's always been. I think TF will be coming back very soon, once some god-tier TF player gets to show him off in a comp. game. Ya but Ziggs was one of the best TF counters even during TF's heyday. People never realized how good Ziggs was because TF was always banned! | ||
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
On January 30 2014 02:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Ya but Ziggs was one of the best TF counters even during TF's heyday. People never realized how good Ziggs was because TF was always banned! Nah, people never played Ziggs because his Q always felt extremely awkward to use because you would previously walk to max range instead of cast from current position (examples being Annie's and Morde's old W/E respectively). Or at least that's why I never liked playing him. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On January 30 2014 02:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Ya but Ziggs was one of the best TF counters even during TF's heyday. People never realized how good Ziggs was because TF was always banned! Not really, towards the end of the TF phase, people just preferred to play Ahri as the TF counter, also it worked insanely well as a pick comp. Also, ocelote team is losing to PAIN, rofl, that's embarassing. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
On January 30 2014 02:57 Dusty wrote: Nah, people never played Ziggs because his Q always felt extremely awkward to use because you would previously walk to max range instead of cast from current position (examples being Annie's and Morde's old W/E respectively). Or at least that's why I never liked playing him. I hate how they changed how the Q works from what you describe to what it is now actually. I much prefer the old one since it's what I was used to playing Ziggs since release. On January 30 2014 02:59 wei2coolman wrote: Not really, towards the end of the TF phase, people just preferred to play Ahri as the TF counter, also it worked insanely well as a pick comp. The Ahri counter was far from a sure thing, and Ahri was often banned too. Teams were too unwilling to play with Ziggssssssssssss since Korea tends towards conservative picks. Ahri was only picked up again since she used to be a standard pick. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On January 30 2014 02:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Ya but Ziggs was one of the best TF counters even during TF's heyday. People never realized how good Ziggs was because TF was always banned! Hmm, prolly not a good time to start playing TF then...  | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On January 30 2014 02:18 AsnSensation wrote: yeah not sure what you mean by he shits on tf for the first few levels. He shit on him all game. He shouldn't get a single free bluecard for manasustain and farming off without eating a bomb and empowered autoattack to the face. I don't know how zyra can punish every Orianna last hit either. Well she has a 50 auto range advantage on Orianna. I mean, sure, those you get using the ball are fine, but if you last hit with an auto as Orianna a good Zyra should punish it (even if she doesn't have the best animation to do it reliably without missing last hits herself). | ||
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UmberBane
Germany5450 Posts
On January 30 2014 02:39 AsnSensation wrote: Is the pain Ad carry the guy who has the Draven axes and the kayle tatoo? he's shitting on Haydal /Dioud holy moly :O Yep that's the one! I'm pretty ignorant as far as the CS scene is concerned, but Redeye and the casters said that brTT was a quite famous professional CS player before. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On January 30 2014 02:39 AsnSensation wrote: Is the pain Ad carry the guy who has the Draven axes and the kayle tatoo? he's shitting on Haydal /Dioud holy moly :O Brtt is imo the best player on pain. Kami feels very overhyped | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
I wonder how Pain vs Dig would have gone. | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4753 Posts
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Kenpark
Germany2350 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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BlasiuS
United States2405 Posts
But almost all mid assassins have been nerfed since then, then s4 came along. So is anivia a viable mid-lane again? Or should I play someone else mid (I do not main mid, I only want 1-2 champs to learn so I don't feed). | ||
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Don_Julio
2220 Posts
On January 30 2014 03:14 Kenpark wrote: Final later today ? 19:30 GMT (+00:00) today sais Liquipedia edit: Stream sais it starts in 20 minutes. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On January 30 2014 03:15 BlasiuS wrote: So throughout season 3 I couldn't really play Anivia, she kept dying too easily to ahri/fizz/zed/kha'zix/kassadin/bullshit assassins. But almost all mid assassins have been nerfed since then, then s4 came along. So is anivia a viable mid-lane again? Or should I play someone else mid (I do not main mid, I only want 1-2 champs to learn so I don't feed). Her range of engage is too short, so if you want to do anything, you better have your team right next to you, otherwise you get caught too easily. | ||
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