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Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
January 29 2014 16:43 GMT
#2701
I had a support tf yesterday when I went jinx who went flash/teleport. That was pretty funny.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
January 29 2014 16:44 GMT
#2702
funny thing about diana is that i can win most lanes with her but as soon as mid game comes i feed like 5 deaths straight then late game comes and i end up carrying (if i get that far)
BW -> League -> CSGO
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
January 29 2014 16:51 GMT
#2703
On January 30 2014 01:43 Nos- wrote:
I had a support tf yesterday when I went jinx who went flash/teleport. That was pretty funny.


How did it work?

I havn't played for ages, but I tried something similar with Pantheon early early in the seasons and it didn't really work, but now that targs is nerfed, how did it feel?
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
January 29 2014 16:52 GMT
#2704
So is Pain like the TSM of Brazil
Platinum Support GOD
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
January 29 2014 16:54 GMT
#2705
I think they're even bigger than tsm in terms of relative share of fanbase in their region.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
January 29 2014 16:56 GMT
#2706
They should just call brTT Bert.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
January 29 2014 16:58 GMT
#2707
On January 30 2014 01:43 Nos- wrote:
I had a support tf yesterday when I went jinx who went flash/teleport. That was pretty funny.


i wasnt talking about tf being bot lane, i said he wins bot lane
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
January 29 2014 16:58 GMT
#2708
On January 30 2014 01:51 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2014 01:43 Nos- wrote:
I had a support tf yesterday when I went jinx who went flash/teleport. That was pretty funny.


How did it work?

I havn't played for ages, but I tried something similar with Pantheon early early in the seasons and it didn't really work, but now that targs is nerfed, how did it feel?

Kind of hard to say, the guy started dblade at lvl1 so gold card and jinx rocket harrass at lvl1 was kind of lulzy. He teleported away to top and left me in a 2v1 lane for about three levels, and then the enemy team started throwing themselves at me and I got pretty fed. I guess it's kind of fun to just fly around the map? Wouldn't recommend unless you're feeling especially adventurous or you're literally jesus at TF.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
January 29 2014 16:59 GMT
#2709
This game...is awesome.

(not well played, but awesome to watch)
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 29 2014 17:05 GMT
#2710
lololol 10k elo shockwave.

they stacked up like silver players holy moly
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 17:07:26
January 29 2014 17:06 GMT
#2711
Brazil Brazil Brazil!

Are they really called Ocelote's World or OceloteWorld? Jason keeps saying the former and it throws me off
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 17:10:23
January 29 2014 17:08 GMT
#2712
Still can't believe they ran around that corner stacked as 5 (e: 4 minues haydal) ppl into shockwave crescendo.

kinda want Pain to win and face Millneium because the crowdhype would be probably bigger for the finals then. Also would be sad if Brazil's best team (they are right?) couldn't beat a team consisting of a washed up Eu midlaner and 4 soloqueue warriors who didnt have any competitive success so far & Haydal probably hasn't played a single scrim with them before coming to this tournament.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
January 29 2014 17:08 GMT
#2713
Looked like huge greed. They thought they could instagib brTT all together.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 29 2014 17:10 GMT
#2714
Viktor should have an advantage over Katarina, however it's more complicated than just "lol silence her ult" (if only because hers is like 1/2 to 1/3rd cd of his). For the most part is closer to the Lux match-up: if she can shunpo your laser she's free to harass you because you just lost most of your trading power.
If she's high on health she can just shunpo on top of you when you try it and ult, because your W won't stun her before it's fully channeled and without your E you're never going to 100-0 her even if you drop your ult (and if you do she's now got ~100s or so to bully you till it's back up, enough time for 2+ ults all-ins).
If you one-shot the wave and she does that however she'll take creep aggro too. It's hard to get her because if shunpo is up and you ult her, it only means she'll spend ~1 more second in range (because of the silence and reaction time) before she shunpo away.

Shunpo and Death Ray have a similar cooldown so it's kinda hard to make harass stick on her past the first levels and she doesn't have mana problems.


I'd expect Ziggs to shit on TF for the first few levels because 525 auto range vs 575 + Ziggs' passive means you're going to eat at least an empowered auto+Q for every card you throw at him, and he doesn't need as much AP as you to clear the wave (with blue it's not even close).
Since I don't play either of them I wouldn't know about roaming and Ziggs' reaction time compared to Gate/Destiny, and stuff like that, though; But the auto range is brutal, it's like trying to auto harass Zyra with Orianna or Viktor, if she knows her stuff you're going to lose the trade hard and she laughs and punishes every last hit.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
January 29 2014 17:13 GMT
#2715
Ziggs is one of the best TF counters out there.
TranslatorBaa!
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 29 2014 17:18 GMT
#2716
yeah not sure what you mean by he shits on tf for the first few levels. He shit on him all game. He shouldn't get a single free bluecard for manasustain and farming off without eating a bomb and empowered autoattack to the face.

I don't know how zyra can punish every Orianna last hit either.
DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
January 29 2014 17:19 GMT
#2717
On January 30 2014 02:06 UmberBane wrote:
Brazil Brazil Brazil!

Are they really called Ocelote's World or OceloteWorld? Jason keeps saying the former and it throws me off

they are called oceloteWorld
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 17:25:59
January 29 2014 17:25 GMT
#2718
On January 30 2014 02:13 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Ziggs is one of the best TF counters out there.


any playable mid atm counters TF in one way or another I think, in fact that's how it's always been. I think TF will be coming back very soon, once some god-tier TF player gets to show him off in a comp. game.
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
January 29 2014 17:31 GMT
#2719
at the moment, i think tf's laning is too much of a liability for him to see play, although i'm open to disagreement on this. pantheon has been filling the global mid niche instead
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 29 2014 17:39 GMT
#2720
Is the pain Ad carry the guy who has the Draven axes and the kayle tatoo? he's shitting on Haydal /Dioud holy moly :O
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