• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:29
CEST 01:29
KST 08:29
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy7uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event14Serral wins EWC 202549Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments5[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Rogue Talks: "Koreans could dominate again" Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Enki Epic Series #5 - TaeJa vs Classic (SC Evo) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SEL Masters #5 - Korea vs Russia (SC Evo) ByuN vs TaeJa Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather
Brood War
General
New season has just come in ladder StarCraft player reflex TE scores BW General Discussion BSL Polish World Championship 2025 20-21 September BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
KCM 2025 Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The year 2050
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Biochemical Cost of Gami…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 627 users

[Patch 4.1] Season 4 Start General Discussion - Page 134

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 132 133 134 135 136 232 Next
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
January 29 2014 14:22 GMT
#2661
On January 29 2014 23:03 Zdrastochye wrote:
I miss pre-nerf Yorick.


Get out blasphemer.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
January 29 2014 14:24 GMT
#2662
On January 29 2014 23:17 Sponkz wrote:
Yeah, but the question wasn't "who can go even against Renekton" but "Who can beat Renekton" and the only real way to do that at the moment 1v1, is by cheesing.

edit: I've cheesed several Renektons as Nunu, but I've also horribly lost against several Renektons. Same thing applies to pretty much anyone who can apply enough early pressure on him. Despite this, it's a reliable method for lower tiers, because the players are inexperienced.


garen
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
January 29 2014 14:28 GMT
#2663
Damn I missed the first oceloteworld game. Is it worth watching (I'm mostly curious about Jwaow's performance)?
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 29 2014 14:36 GMT
#2664
Sometimes alt-tabbing and checking out the game, Millenium was up 4-0. 2 minutes later I do it again, Millenium 4-1. I instinctively look at Aranae's score... yup.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 14:37:50
January 29 2014 14:37 GMT
#2665
On January 29 2014 23:24 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 23:17 Sponkz wrote:
Yeah, but the question wasn't "who can go even against Renekton" but "Who can beat Renekton" and the only real way to do that at the moment 1v1, is by cheesing.

edit: I've cheesed several Renektons as Nunu, but I've also horribly lost against several Renektons. Same thing applies to pretty much anyone who can apply enough early pressure on him. Despite this, it's a reliable method for lower tiers, because the players are inexperienced.


garen


and lee

and rumble

although neither of them beat him handily, you actually have to be good at the champions unlike the faceroll Garen.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
January 29 2014 14:38 GMT
#2666
Is Lee really strong enough early to manage the crocodile?

I'll try and give Rumble or Garen a spin (no pun intended) next time.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 14:39:15
January 29 2014 14:38 GMT
#2667
i challenge you to play garen vs renekton and say that again
i dare you I double dare you motherfucker
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 14:46:12
January 29 2014 14:45 GMT
#2668
On January 29 2014 23:28 AlterKot wrote:
Damn I missed the first oceloteworld game. Is it worth watching (I'm mostly curious about Jwaow's performance)?

IEM spoilers
+ Show Spoiler +
Jwaow was honestly a bit disappointing but dioud's team still ran a pain train in the end.
Glorious SEA doto
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
January 29 2014 14:47 GMT
#2669
On January 29 2014 22:16 Jek wrote:
Is there any champion who beats Renekton in lane? I've had it with how disgustingly easy you lose lane vs him in solo top. I'd be willing to be useless outside of killing Renekton in lane, heck if only wards Shaco could win I'd do it.


Pantheon has always beat Renekton in lane.

Only real hindrances are that Renekton is much less vulnerable to ganks than Panth, and the age old teamcomp thing; Only way picking pantheon works out for you late game is if you can effective get a BT/Hydra + LW, and you need a tanky enough team to do so.

If you have like Jungle Kha, Support Sona, and Brand Mid, you probably going to have a hard time as a composition late game. Renekton going to roll into your team, tank all the things, and be way more useful than you even if you kicked his teeth in because you team needs a bruiser line and you dont have anything.

But if your Jungler is like Sejuani, your Support is Leona, and your mid is like Liss, sweet panth is great picks.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 14:58:45
January 29 2014 14:56 GMT
#2670
On January 29 2014 18:51 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 17:26 Amui wrote:
On January 29 2014 16:49 Parnage wrote:
Completely random, whatever happened to Riven jungle? I mean with junglers no longer being strictly supports that roam wouldn't she be pretty scary to come dash/stuning into a lane? What's the deal.

When it was played in OGN, IIRC it was lizard/golem+brut into CDR to be a CCbot, which isn't a bad way to play her on minimal farm. Not a good style to carry with in soloq, but as far as professional play goes, for a jungler it's fine.

The only time I remember it being successful, it was a full tank build that forgoed all damage for the CC. I think it's a pretty dumb use for a Riven and one that won't be useful in soloq at all.

Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 18:28 wussleeQ wrote:
Been playing a lot of diana lately. She honestly isn't as bad as you guys are making her out to be. Just don't play her vs heimer yasuo or cassio and maybe someother bad matchups i'm not sure of atm and you'll be fine.

Yes, it is. She has so many awful matchups and can't even play safe till 6 without being pretty far behind. Her lane phase depends on 1) a good matchup or 2) a lot of jungle help.

Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 14:59 YouGotNothin wrote:
On January 29 2014 11:11 Sufficiency wrote:
On January 29 2014 11:07 Kinie wrote:
So the new Lunar year skins are available for purchase for anyone else or no? And I'm seriously tempted to buy Diana and Riven's new skin.


I am guessing soon?

Diana skin is nice, but she feels so bad right now... I really don't want to pull her out for mid lane. Not sure about jungle.


I am hanging on to the hope that Riot will buff Diana after lackluster Lunar Revel skin sales. She just needs a little bit of a numbers buff on any of her abilities and I think she'd be popular again. Or they could just bring Moonflair Spellblade to SR: 50 AP, 50 MR, 50 Armor, Tenacity, builds from Seeker's, such a perfect item for her.

I've seen multiple red posts about her recently. The company line right now is that she took all the nerfs because she did the she was an AP assassin AND bruiser at once and she'll need to shift her identity into one instead of sitting on the fence. I believe Morello said that he was leaning towards bruiser, because that's what her original design pitch was.

And yeah, Moonflair would be bonkers on her.


Diana was like the AP Riven before. Except like, better at doing what she did. She was also one of the first "mana costs? what mana costs?" champs.
Freeeeeeedom
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
January 29 2014 15:04 GMT
#2671
On January 29 2014 23:24 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2014 23:17 Sponkz wrote:
Yeah, but the question wasn't "who can go even against Renekton" but "Who can beat Renekton" and the only real way to do that at the moment 1v1, is by cheesing.

edit: I've cheesed several Renektons as Nunu, but I've also horribly lost against several Renektons. Same thing applies to pretty much anyone who can apply enough early pressure on him. Despite this, it's a reliable method for lower tiers, because the players are inexperienced.


garen


sucks
hi
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
January 29 2014 15:22 GMT
#2672
quick, someone tell me when and how to watch the korean girls' teams play
cool beans
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 15:28:34
January 29 2014 15:24 GMT
#2673
a bit late to the jungle riven discussion, but i think there are some points that are still worth addressing

jungle riven was super popular in kr challenger before and through ogn winter, and in ogn she was played more often in jungle than mid. she wasn't a comfort pick like nunu or lee sin - pro level junglers were clearly seeing enough merit in her to go out of their way to learn riven

full tank is a strictly terrible way to build her and was only done once in ogn due to behind severely behind iirc; more common was 1-2 damage items into tank

part of her value to a draft is that she fills 3 roles and has multiple build options in each role, which is a diversity that only kha (and lee sin/gragas...sort of not really) can match

i'm not quite sure how impactful the riven nerfs will be, and it won't be until club masters starts in february that we'll get a good idea of where she stands now. personally, i still consider jungle riven a viable soloq pick, seeing as how her cc remains untouched, and she absolutely could carry games prior to the nerfs
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 15:40:59
January 29 2014 15:35 GMT
#2674
MILLENIUM JUST GOT ACED WITH A 10K+ GOLD LEAD BY 7WARS ROFL ROFL ROFL
I was about to call that 7 wars trist a god then he throws the entire fight
Glorious SEA doto
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 29 2014 15:38 GMT
#2675
So Diana...

I think she is not bad per se. It is just that I don't see the point of playing her, because she has very few good match ups and her teamfight is mediocre. Her E is very good for an aoe team comp, but aoe comps are not doing that well (especially if she occupies the mid position already). Her roam is not that great either now after all the nerfs to her damage.

https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 29 2014 15:42 GMT
#2676
On January 30 2014 00:35 Fusilero wrote:
MILLENIUM JUST GOT ACED WITH A 10K+ GOLD LEAD BY 7WARS ROFL ROFL ROFL
I was about to call that 7 wars trist a god then he throws the entire fight


Wait how do you get aced while being 40-10 and 10k ahead.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
January 29 2014 15:43 GMT
#2677
Millenium has no idea how to close games
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 15:45:20
January 29 2014 15:44 GMT
#2678
On January 30 2014 00:42 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2014 00:35 Fusilero wrote:
MILLENIUM JUST GOT ACED WITH A 10K+ GOLD LEAD BY 7WARS ROFL ROFL ROFL
I was about to call that 7 wars trist a god then he throws the entire fight


Wait how do you get aced while being 40-10 and 10k ahead.

To be fair, 7 wars does have a massive tristana. That being said kerp's mantheon is throwing so hard doing awful mandrops that is just feeding trist resets still they just got aced with even more gold and baron.
Okay millenium wins, they still suck.
Glorious SEA doto
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-29 15:46:33
January 29 2014 15:45 GMT
#2679
On January 30 2014 00:35 Fusilero wrote:
MILLENIUM JUST GOT ACED WITH A 10K+ GOLD LEAD BY 7WARS ROFL ROFL ROFL
I was about to call that 7 wars trist a god then he throws the entire fight

Can't remember in which game last week they did the same thing, huge lead, bot inhib down, they were sieging the top inhib tower and decided to dive, they failed to wipe the floor with the enemy team and the lengthy engagement was lost by them without even killing the tower, something like 2-4.
They won the game off the next one, but blunders like that show inconsistent they are and it concerns me wrt their performances. They won't be able to beat top teams in EU LCS because even if they manage to get an early lead if they keep being prone to derps like that, good teams will be able to stall and make a comeback off the first that'll happen.

It was already an issue with the initial LCS Alternate squad tho...

Edit: that's a nice hat by one of the Brazilian players.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 29 2014 15:47 GMT
#2680
On January 30 2014 00:44 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2014 00:42 Numy wrote:
On January 30 2014 00:35 Fusilero wrote:
MILLENIUM JUST GOT ACED WITH A 10K+ GOLD LEAD BY 7WARS ROFL ROFL ROFL
I was about to call that 7 wars trist a god then he throws the entire fight


Wait how do you get aced while being 40-10 and 10k ahead.

To be fair, 7 wars does have a massive tristana. That being said kerp's mantheon is throwing so hard doing awful mandrops that is just feeding trist resets still they just got aced with even more gold and baron.
Okay millenium wins, they still suck.


Yea I saw the ace at top. Man kerp doesn't know how to play Mantheon late game at all. It seems the only LCS team that doesn't disappoint is Roccat.
Prev 1 132 133 134 135 136 232 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 31m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nathanias 151
NeuroSwarm 75
ForJumy 64
CosmosSc2 55
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 19374
ggaemo 66
Stormgate
UpATreeSC203
Dota 2
syndereN662
Pyrionflax128
Counter-Strike
fl0m952
Other Games
summit1g4948
tarik_tv1608
Day[9].tv893
shahzam815
C9.Mang0428
ViBE174
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV48
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 49
• davetesta43
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 38
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift4257
Other Games
• imaqtpie1793
• Scarra1163
• Day9tv893
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
31m
LiuLi Cup
11h 31m
Online Event
15h 31m
BSL Team Wars
19h 31m
Team Hawk vs Team Sziky
Online Event
1d 11h
SC Evo League
1d 12h
Online Event
1d 13h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 15h
CSO Contender
1d 17h
[BSL 2025] Weekly
1d 18h
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2 days
SC Evo League
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Dewalt vs Team Bonyth
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Sharp vs Ample
Larva vs Stork
Wardi Open
3 days
RotterdaM Event
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
JyJ vs TY
Bisu vs Speed
WardiTV Summer Champion…
4 days
PiGosaur Monday
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Mini vs TBD
Soma vs sSak
WardiTV Summer Champion…
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-08-13
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 20
CSLAN 3
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.