EPTNot the best escape, no.
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
Not the best escape, no. | ||
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TokO
Norway577 Posts
So originally, people get some kind of Bloodthirster-centric build. But I felt that it was too reliant on a successful early game. I didn't want to enter the midgame with only BT, or BT-components in worse cases. I wanted to be relevant even though I'd been screwed with during lanephase. Ghostblade provides that replacement item that is cheap, has good components and steroids to help me be relevant during the early midgame. I realised that if I got jumped on in a teamfight, I would get away by either running, flashing, cleansing or spellshielding etc, not by attacking and retaining hp, so I decided that in most situations, Lifesteal would be a waste of investment. Having 4-6% Lifesteal on Quints might be a smart choice though. Since I can't jump into fights and focus squishies, I needed to be able to rip down armor heavy tanks, and rather deal dmg to others through riccochet, while BT-Phantom Dancer-IE certainly have the dmg, it kinda activates or finishes too late. Disadvantages, I guess I always feel very reliant on having 5 on 5 teamfights. I feel like in terms of dishing out damage, Sivir with my build is really strong as long as you're 5 on 5. It's not the damage that's lacking in a smaller teamfight, but rather all the peeling and utility that is so essential decreases, so I become a much easier target. I've had around 40-50 games with Sivir, of which I've been experimenting with this for about 40 games. These are just current thought, and it's done in low leagues. The biggest appeal is the economic side of the build. All the money goes towards combat-stats, and avoids lifesteal altogether (or at least in the first 4 items). It's not super reliant on gold, so I don't ever feel the urge to bitch about not getting kills. It's also a kiting-centric build, so at least there is some fun in that ^^ | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
On January 12 2014 18:31 Ryuu314 wrote: Not to mention that you actually go towards the enemy during the vault. Any team with reasonable reflexes will kill you/cc you while you do that. In 1v1 that's not an issue since it ministuns, but in teamfights that becomes a problem. Oh team fights? Well they aren't Quinn's forte anyway, unless you get off a sick blind on the enemy adc or can assassinate someone. Even then though, it allows you to put space between you and a diver. She's always seemed best as a splitpusher/duelist and vault compliments that role nicely has a functional escape tool in skirmish situations. Of course it isn't great, nowhere did I say it was the best, but saying its shit is a bit much I reckon. It does the job for Quinn. Incidentally, The best Quinn I ever saw was a jungle Quinn. Where did she feature on that tier list? | ||
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ArchAngelSC
England706 Posts
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On January 12 2014 21:13 ArchAngelSC wrote: Anyone know how to beat a morde in lane? Are you looking for a champion counterpick, general strategies, or a specific champion you're playing? | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
realistically junglers counter morde more than anything | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
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ArchAngelSC
England706 Posts
On January 12 2014 21:26 JonGalt wrote: Are you looking for a champion counterpick, general strategies, or a specific champion you're playing? Just general strategy. I don't really know anything about him. I just used a full REQW combo on him and he LITERALLY took 0 damage. What makes him not take damage? and how does one go about killing him? | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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ArchAngelSC
England706 Posts
On January 12 2014 22:12 Slayer91 wrote: hint: morde isn't actually immune to damage Well ya I figured that. I just didn't understand why he took none from a full combo to the face. Figured I'm doing something wrong/don't know about one of his abilities? | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Main stuff is: - don't stand in your minion wave, give him a choice between building shield by hitting the wave, or damaging you but building up no shield. Otherwise he damages you, pushes the wave so has minion advantage, and has a big shield. - the more you're reliant on burst, the shorter your trades should be. It's a general rule, sure, but Morde makes it worse. Once your burst is down, it's possible you won't even be able to outdamage his shield generation (his cooldowns aren't that big even early on, 'cept for W which is minor anyway). So you trade when his shield is low, get out, and try to harass him while standing aside from the wave so he can't build up a full shield again, until your rotation is ready. Alternatively if he tries to push you call your jungler and gank him since he has no escapes, no cc, and pushes naturally. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35164 Posts
http://www.twitch.tv/readyuptv According to the bracket, they took out MYM 2-0 in the semis. | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
I'm pretty sure his shield shows up as a white bar underneath his health? I haven't played in a while but that's what I remember. so you gotta play around his shield and cooldowns. but as most people have said, ganks really fuck him up because he naturally pushes and has no escape. http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Mordekaiser wiki has a lot of good info. I'd suggest lol wiking whatever champion you're laning against during the loading screen. his abilities also cost health, so early on if he spams too much he is pretty vulnerable. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On January 12 2014 22:29 Gahlo wrote: C9.eu playing in an invitational in ~20mins. http://www.twitch.tv/readyuptv According to the bracket, they took out MYM 2-0 in the semis. Believe the hype man, they're still obviously new and give away some silly deaths at times but when laning ends they just run a pain train on everyone. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35164 Posts
On January 12 2014 22:51 Fusilero wrote: Believe the hype man, they're still obviously new and give away some silly deaths at times but when laning ends they just run a pain train on everyone. I haven't watched them yet, but Wickd gave them some pretty high praise, so I'm hyped. | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35164 Posts
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
Man, thresh kit is such bullshit. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35164 Posts
On January 12 2014 23:17 Osmoses wrote: ... You know, a thresh hook with a lantern for morde sounds like a pretty lethal combo. Man, thresh kit is such bullshit. Now I want to see a level 1 blue donate to Urgot with a Morde/Thresh mid lane just for the spectacle of it all. Gee thanks.  | ||
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