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Rooster Cogburn
Profile Joined October 2013
76 Posts
January 10 2014 23:40 GMT
#3941
AP or AD?
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
January 10 2014 23:42 GMT
#3942
I didn't even say it. He just went "WTF" and dodged.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
InfSunday
Profile Joined March 2013
United States735 Posts
January 11 2014 00:06 GMT
#3943
That's less troll than a lot of stuff I get in ranked gold, top heimer, jungle Syndra, et cetera et cetera. I love mid lane Ez, I'd be happy if someone on my team picked him, lol.
Call me Sunday
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
January 11 2014 00:16 GMT
#3944
On January 11 2014 08:36 -Zoda- wrote:
Someone dodged because I picked mid Ezreal in a normal... wtf is wrong with people ?


Yea, who picks Ezreal

For real though a dodge from Ezreal is pretty weird even if he is in a bad spot right now
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
January 11 2014 00:22 GMT
#3945
The only bad thing is that Manamune is such a pain to build up wow... Got it as a first item I took me ages to fill it. When I happily got muramana I shot at a Malphite and fucking facepalmed.
Qtpie says Ez is one of the best Adcs now, good midgame and lategame.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
January 11 2014 00:23 GMT
#3946
What was the deal with this CLG camp thing? Was that the thing where CLG wanted ppl to pay 2,000 bucks to camp with them for a week? And they participated in some tournament at the end?
LoL: UnKooL and SoloQFiendUnKooL, SC2: UnKooL
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-11 00:27:15
January 11 2014 00:26 GMT
#3947
On January 11 2014 09:22 -Zoda- wrote:
The only bad thing is that Manamune is such a pain to build up wow... Got it as a first item I took me ages to fill it. When I happily got muramana I shot at a Malphite and fucking facepalmed.
Qtpie says Ez is one of the best Adcs now, good midgame and lategame.

At least you haven't endured the agony of stacking tear with post nerf jayce, shit's painful.
On January 11 2014 09:23 UnKooL wrote:
What was the deal with this CLG camp thing? Was that the thing where CLG wanted ppl to pay 2,000 bucks to camp with them for a week? And they participated in some tournament at the end?

5 guys pay 1k to go to CLG house, stay over and get coached by them. I assume that the jungler who went was feeling a bit sour over the dexter situation lol.
Glorious SEA doto
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-11 00:30:25
January 11 2014 00:27 GMT
#3948
Ezreal can be strong if he has a way to get around the creep line and your team understands how to kite with an ezreal. But excepting that he is super weak early, has low DPS compared to the big three/four, and most importantly has no way of dealing damage through an enemy team(Sans ult which has a long wind up time) which is what really separates out the stronger ADC's from the weaker ones at the moment.

I mean he is still an ADC and still has tonnes of poke and kite with Triforce and LW and has great skirmish because of that. And his W makes him one of the best coordinated tower pushes in the game. But I can definitely understand not being happy at an allied ezreal pick

Edit: I mean think about Varus compared to Ezreal in a linear team fight. Varus hits the enemy front liner three times then puts a Q through the entire enemy team adding a nice chunk to the ADC or APC and forcing the enemy tank to have MR. Ezreal Q's and Auto's right into the face of the enemy Randuin's. Even if Ezreal takes down the tank first (unlikely) he has to contend with the fact that Varus put damage on his back line, more or less for free, which is front line was capitalizing on.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
January 11 2014 00:30 GMT
#3949
On January 11 2014 05:33 AsnSensation wrote:
fucking Olly getting owned on twitter saying that matches won't be streamed tomorrow and now all the Riot employees come out and say that they are streaming it :D

Worried about potential ddos though

Huzzah! LCS can't comes fast enough, so if I can trick myself with this...
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
January 11 2014 00:31 GMT
#3950
On January 11 2014 09:27 Goumindong wrote:
Ezreal can be strong if he has a way to get around the creep line and your team understands how to kite with an ezreal. But excepting that he is super weak early, has low DPS compared to the big three/four, and most importantly has no way of dealing damage through an enemy team(Sans ult which has a long wind up time) which is what really separates out the stronger ADC's from the weaker ones at the moment.

I mean he is still an ADC and still has tonnes of poke and kite with Triforce and LW and has great skirmish because of that. And his W makes him one of the best coordinated tower pushes in the game. But I can definitely understand not being happy at an allied ezreal pick

Edit: I mean think about Varus compared to Ezreal in a linear team fight. Varus hits the enemy front liner three times then puts a Q through the entire enemy team adding a nice chunk to the ADC or APC and forcing the enemy tank to have MR. Ezreal Q's and Auto's right into the face of the enemy Randuin's. Even if Ezreal takes down the tank first (unlikely) he has to contend with the fact that Varus put damage on his back line, more or less for free, which is front line was capitalizing on.


ya but varus can't press e and disengage from people diving :[
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
January 11 2014 00:36 GMT
#3951
On January 11 2014 09:31 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 09:27 Goumindong wrote:
Ezreal can be strong if he has a way to get around the creep line and your team understands how to kite with an ezreal. But excepting that he is super weak early, has low DPS compared to the big three/four, and most importantly has no way of dealing damage through an enemy team(Sans ult which has a long wind up time) which is what really separates out the stronger ADC's from the weaker ones at the moment.

I mean he is still an ADC and still has tonnes of poke and kite with Triforce and LW and has great skirmish because of that. And his W makes him one of the best coordinated tower pushes in the game. But I can definitely understand not being happy at an allied ezreal pick

Edit: I mean think about Varus compared to Ezreal in a linear team fight. Varus hits the enemy front liner three times then puts a Q through the entire enemy team adding a nice chunk to the ADC or APC and forcing the enemy tank to have MR. Ezreal Q's and Auto's right into the face of the enemy Randuin's. Even if Ezreal takes down the tank first (unlikely) he has to contend with the fact that Varus put damage on his back line, more or less for free, which is front line was capitalizing on.


ya but varus can't press e and disengage from people diving :[

Oh noes, Varus requires positioning!
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-11 00:38:02
January 11 2014 00:37 GMT
#3952
On January 11 2014 09:26 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 09:22 -Zoda- wrote:
The only bad thing is that Manamune is such a pain to build up wow... Got it as a first item I took me ages to fill it. When I happily got muramana I shot at a Malphite and fucking facepalmed.
Qtpie says Ez is one of the best Adcs now, good midgame and lategame.

At least you haven't endured the agony of stacking tear with post nerf jayce, shit's painful.

I do, but with Jayce I tend to get OOM at some point, whereas with Ez you shoot Qs all day long, It looks like it would stack faster...

Also I'm watching Wings right now and he ask an ally "is your ult up ?". Thousands of hours on this game he stills doesn't know about the green indicator. :/
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
January 11 2014 00:42 GMT
#3953
In his defense, the green dot at one time lied all the time, I've no idea if they ever fixed that.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
January 11 2014 00:44 GMT
#3954
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/26968-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-1-10-2014-riven
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/01/110-pbe-update.html
+ Show Spoiler +
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Darius
R- recast window increased to 20 seconds from 12.

Janna and Rengar AIR changes from last patch make it into the game setting.

Nautilus
E- buffed back to live value

AIR SECTION
Diana
R- All moonlight debuffs removed when used, even if not the target (note: just a clarification)

Xin Zhao
R- Capped at 600 vs monsters

Yorick
E- Healing halved from monsters
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
January 11 2014 01:03 GMT
#3955
On January 11 2014 09:31 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 09:27 Goumindong wrote:
Ezreal can be strong if he has a way to get around the creep line and your team understands how to kite with an ezreal. But excepting that he is super weak early, has low DPS compared to the big three/four, and most importantly has no way of dealing damage through an enemy team(Sans ult which has a long wind up time) which is what really separates out the stronger ADC's from the weaker ones at the moment.

I mean he is still an ADC and still has tonnes of poke and kite with Triforce and LW and has great skirmish because of that. And his W makes him one of the best coordinated tower pushes in the game. But I can definitely understand not being happy at an allied ezreal pick

Edit: I mean think about Varus compared to Ezreal in a linear team fight. Varus hits the enemy front liner three times then puts a Q through the entire enemy team adding a nice chunk to the ADC or APC and forcing the enemy tank to have MR. Ezreal Q's and Auto's right into the face of the enemy Randuin's. Even if Ezreal takes down the tank first (unlikely) he has to contend with the fact that Varus put damage on his back line, more or less for free, which is front line was capitalizing on.


ya but varus can't press e and disengage from people diving :[


True, but Ezreal's disengage potential requires both his team to understand it and have a team which kite back with him, as well as the enemy to not have any of the really strong chasers which don't really care that the ADC flashed. Otherwise the enemy just kills your team after ezreal shifts because it can put a Randuins Shyvanna between Ezreal and the people who actually care about taking damage.

This makes Ezreal really hard to play in Solo queue (and his weak early laning makes him hard to play in pro games I am betting) and I can definitely understand someone who doesn't like the pick. I mean, i wouldn't dodge(especially not a normal) but its understandable. Picking Ezreal is, imo, like counterpicking yourself. He isn't the only ADC to have lower than a 50% win rate at the moment, but Tristana, Twitch, Graves, Miss Fortune, and Ashe aren't good company.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
January 11 2014 01:10 GMT
#3956
God dammit do I have to buy every single fucking Warring Kingdoms skin? Riot please stop.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 11 2014 01:24 GMT
#3957
fuck I remember when Diana first came out I was so dissapointed I couldn't jump from target to target after Q.

Now we have Yasuo for that :D
Carrilord has arrived.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 11 2014 01:34 GMT
#3958
On January 11 2014 09:36 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 09:31 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On January 11 2014 09:27 Goumindong wrote:
Ezreal can be strong if he has a way to get around the creep line and your team understands how to kite with an ezreal. But excepting that he is super weak early, has low DPS compared to the big three/four, and most importantly has no way of dealing damage through an enemy team(Sans ult which has a long wind up time) which is what really separates out the stronger ADC's from the weaker ones at the moment.

I mean he is still an ADC and still has tonnes of poke and kite with Triforce and LW and has great skirmish because of that. And his W makes him one of the best coordinated tower pushes in the game. But I can definitely understand not being happy at an allied ezreal pick

Edit: I mean think about Varus compared to Ezreal in a linear team fight. Varus hits the enemy front liner three times then puts a Q through the entire enemy team adding a nice chunk to the ADC or APC and forcing the enemy tank to have MR. Ezreal Q's and Auto's right into the face of the enemy Randuin's. Even if Ezreal takes down the tank first (unlikely) he has to contend with the fact that Varus put damage on his back line, more or less for free, which is front line was capitalizing on.


ya but varus can't press e and disengage from people diving :[

Oh noes, Varus requires positioning!


Can't tell if serious...
Freeeeeeedom
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-11 01:47:20
January 11 2014 01:46 GMT
#3959
So i have a question.

I started ranked and while i won the first like 9 games in a row, i am currently stalling a bit.
In lane a get a kill or push people out before 6 regulary, but i am not sure which is a better behaviour in soloqueue to get a better MMR:

My team, being low gold players, are usually making very strange plays and i wonder if its better to follow them and try to help them because i allready see the enemy trapping them. Or is it better to do what i was going to do if my team would not try to suicide, namely getting the big waves pushing our topwers and stuff like that.

same with jungle, help hopelessly underskilled laners where a gank will not get me a kill or only gank when i would actually want to gank?



Im not ssaying im in elo hell, but some pointers would be good to improve my teamrelated decision making.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22256 Posts
January 11 2014 01:55 GMT
#3960
I think most of the time helping your team even if they make "bad" moves is the way to go. Else they just all die and your left 1v4/5 and mostly helpless anyway.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
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