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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
January 10 2014 15:06 GMT
#3901
On January 10 2014 23:41 TheLink wrote:
Hopefully they put up some vods the day after or something. Can even get commentators over a replay if necessary.

IT'S A REPLAY?????

[only TSL1 kids will get this]
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-10 15:33:25
January 10 2014 15:33 GMT
#3902
I'm liking Master Yi top. So fun popping ult-ghostblade-botrk/cutlass in lane and watching them slowly die after like 20 hits.
Then you get IE and 2-shot everyone else on the map
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
January 10 2014 15:53 GMT
#3903
Was last night's OGN good? I want to know if I should ignore people to watch the rebroadcast or not.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35152 Posts
January 10 2014 15:54 GMT
#3904
You should, it was.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
January 10 2014 15:54 GMT
#3905
I will, thats good
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 10 2014 15:54 GMT
#3906
On January 11 2014 00:54 Gahlo wrote:
You should, it was.

Agreed.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
January 10 2014 15:55 GMT
#3907
On January 11 2014 00:06 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 23:41 TheLink wrote:
Hopefully they put up some vods the day after or something. Can even get commentators over a replay if necessary.

IT'S A REPLAY?????

[only TSL1 kids will get this]

That is not acceptable.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 10 2014 18:12 GMT
#3908
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BlasiuS
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States2405 Posts
January 10 2014 18:23 GMT
#3909
speaking of the new tank meta, has anyone used trundle? He's like the best anti-tank champ in the game, he should be thriving in this meta.
next week on Everybody Loves HypnoToad:
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
January 10 2014 18:26 GMT
#3910
I've played a bit of Trundle. He's fine, uncomplicated champ that works great in siege comps.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
January 10 2014 18:38 GMT
#3911
I really enjoy trundle top I am scrublord gold II rank- but subjugate + forzen domain + BotRK + Visage is simply hilarious vs a tank. you are stealing 40+% of their HP in 4 seconds. So you can bait fights so hard. Especially at baron / drag. Because when those objectives die, you are almost instanly at full health (provided you are standing withing kings tribute range). I love trundle in the current meta. Great initiate, great peel, great dualist. The only annoying part-

Fairly passive early laning vs most top champs, and really needs hydra if he wants to split push quickly. However after the rework, and chomp now having the ability to hit turrets / objectives- his ability to smack down turrets / objectives is scary fast.
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Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-10 18:51:35
January 10 2014 18:45 GMT
#3912
On January 11 2014 03:23 BlasiuS wrote:
speaking of the new tank meta, has anyone used trundle? He's like the best anti-tank champ in the game, he should be thriving in this meta.


I've been playing pretty much exclusively Trundle top at Plat I for the past month or so.

He's great. Bullies almost everyone at level 1 (not uncommon for me to FB at level 1), escapes ganks very well after level 4, and can duel any melee after 6 or even turn ganks. Melee enemies should be made to pay for every last hit.

I can't say I've laned against anyone that I thought was a terrible match-up for me, I first pick him without fear now. Nasus and Mundo can devolve into farm fests if you don't bully them enough early. Vladimir is really hard to get kills from but he's not a threat to you (he ignored Pillar slow while in pool so unless he lets himself get to like 20% health you can't kill). Teemo requires very careful play but also decisiveness, well-timed all-ins can beat him since he doesn't have great tools for escaping Pillar. Shyvana is tricky, but if you can dodge E or avoid most of W then you'll heavily outtrade her. Riven is NP, Wukong a joke. Renekton is annoying because you can't debuff him before he lands his combo, but you'll win in extended trades so the trick is not to let him just combo and dice away. I don't think I've faced Swain, I think that could be tricky.

Ultimate cooldown is very low, using it to force a back is fine, though obviously a kill is better. Obviously auto Q auto is your basic combo, with the slow you can keep whacking them good if they're not careful.

R -> Q -> W/E is situational. W helps your mobility and duelling a lot, but points in Pillar are important for teamfights/poking. I usually alternate points in W and E.

Core build is BotRK, Spirit Visage and a big armor item (Sunfire if you need to split, Randuin's if there's a fed ADC or rarely Frozen Heart). Build-order up to match-up and gold available.

Pillar placement is everything after laning. Good pillars block escape routes, divide teams in two, prevent chases, etc. etc.
I am the Town Medic.
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
January 10 2014 19:28 GMT
#3913
Is there any way to turn off attacking creeps unless you specificallty click on them?

I tend to for example with renekton E -> press W -> stun a minion...
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
January 10 2014 19:29 GMT
#3914
On January 11 2014 04:28 Complete wrote:
Is there any way to turn off attacking creeps unless you specificallty click on them?

I tend to for example with renekton E -> press W -> stun a minion...


There is a button you can press which will prevent any ability from targeting a creep. Default is ~ i believe
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
January 10 2014 19:34 GMT
#3915
On January 11 2014 04:28 Complete wrote:
Is there any way to turn off attacking creeps unless you specificallty click on them?

I tend to for example with renekton E -> press W -> stun a minion...

In the options menu under Game, you can uncheck "auto attack" if that's what you're asking.
Rooster Cogburn
Profile Joined October 2013
76 Posts
January 10 2014 19:35 GMT
#3916
I tried Trundle top in a normal game twice. Lost miserably the first time. I was Trundle against a Yosou with an opposing jungle Yi. Basically I could not trade well with yosou at all even though I went D shield amd he went D blade. My auto-Q-auto combo would basically get rid of his shield and I would lose the trade form his crits and spammable abilities. Also anytime Yi came top, their combined dps/ignite made it impossible for me to survive even under the tower for more than 2 seconds letting them just run away all willy nilly. My jungler was no where to be found .Granted that Yosou was mid Diamond 1 and I am only Diamond 4 I still though I couldn't do anything all game

The second time I went against a Nasus and that was much easier and I destroyed him even through his innate sustain from spamming auto q auto and using my ult to force him back multiple times(basically whenever it was up). I got a few kills on through this and was an easy game. He was Diamond 5 I believe so around the same skill level.

My two cents...
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
January 10 2014 20:03 GMT
#3917
On January 11 2014 04:35 Rooster Cogburn wrote:
I tried Trundle top in a normal game twice. Lost miserably the first time. I was Trundle against a Yosou with an opposing jungle Yi. Basically I could not trade well with yosou at all even though I went D shield amd he went D blade. My auto-Q-auto combo would basically get rid of his shield and I would lose the trade form his crits and spammable abilities. Also anytime Yi came top, their combined dps/ignite made it impossible for me to survive even under the tower for more than 2 seconds letting them just run away all willy nilly. My jungler was no where to be found .Granted that Yosou was mid Diamond 1 and I am only Diamond 4 I still though I couldn't do anything all game

The second time I went against a Nasus and that was much easier and I destroyed him even through his innate sustain from spamming auto q auto and using my ult to force him back multiple times(basically whenever it was up). I got a few kills on through this and was an easy game. He was Diamond 5 I believe so around the same skill level.

My two cents...


Because you are diamond, you are obv. better than my gold II ass- however i was wondering, what runes / mastery page did you have?

I normally run Lifesteal quints, AD reds, armor yellows, and scaling MR blues. 9/21/0 mastery. I feel that against more poke oriented champtions (read jayce, elise, kennen, vlad, yasu) I normally start flask, health pot, ward. I feel that D shield really doesn't offer you much in terms of good trade poential vs those champs. You already have some nice health regen thanks to kings tribute- so i kind of feel that its passive is sightly redundant for early trades in lane.

Against the few times that I have played vs yasu, I have just been extreamly passive- and waited to clear out my minion wave before attacking him. I normally don't start trying to zone hard until I have my vamp sceptor.
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wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
January 10 2014 20:03 GMT
#3918
trundle has always been complete shit against mobile people though so it's expected.
BW -> League -> CSGO
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 10 2014 20:28 GMT
#3919
All these ridiculous Rengar "fixes" why don't they just make it a spell like Khazix Q?
Freeeeeeedom
Rooster Cogburn
Profile Joined October 2013
76 Posts
January 10 2014 20:30 GMT
#3920
I ran basically the same runes and masteries you did. I went 9/21 I believe, but for some reason I might have gone 0/21/9 that game to see how it went but I can't remember right now. Maybe even 6/21/3 for that extra movespeed. And for runes, I ran my AD runes which are armor yellows, 2 LS quints, 1 AD quint, AD marks, and scaling MR blues.

But now that you mention, Trundle does poorly against mobile champs.

One thing Yasou did that was so frustrating is that once he got my tower, he kept pushing and warded the wraith so whenever he feels like it he can dash over the wall to wraith and I couldn't do anything even if i was going to win the trade at that point.

Just a tip some champs can do which I had never really thought of with Yasou
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