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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 10 2014 20:32 GMT
#3921
http://eune.lolesports.com/articles/eu-lcs-replacement-play-information
Promos will be streamed after all, even rito conspires against olly eheuheuhuehe
Glorious SEA doto
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
January 10 2014 20:32 GMT
#3922
On January 11 2014 05:28 cLutZ wrote:
All these ridiculous Rengar "fixes" why don't they just make it a spell like Khazix Q?

implying khaizix is balanced right now ?
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 10 2014 20:33 GMT
#3923
fucking Olly getting owned on twitter saying that matches won't be streamed tomorrow and now all the Riot employees come out and say that they are streaming it :D

Worried about potential ddos though
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 10 2014 20:34 GMT
#3924
On January 11 2014 05:33 AsnSensation wrote:
fucking Olly getting owned on twitter saying that matches won't be streamed tomorrow and now all the Riot employees come out and say that they are streaming it :D

Worried about potential ddos though


I do believe that told copypasta is applicable here
Glorious SEA doto
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
January 10 2014 20:41 GMT
#3925
Damn, someone get Olly a Cleanse for that ignite.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 10 2014 20:43 GMT
#3926
On January 11 2014 05:32 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 05:28 cLutZ wrote:
All these ridiculous Rengar "fixes" why don't they just make it a spell like Khazix Q?

implying khaizix is balanced right now ?


He certainly doesn't have 1500 glitches with his Q.
Freeeeeeedom
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-10 20:47:15
January 10 2014 20:46 GMT
#3927
On January 11 2014 05:30 Rooster Cogburn wrote:
I ran basically the same runes and masteries you did. I went 9/21 I believe, but for some reason I might have gone 0/21/9 that game to see how it went but I can't remember right now. Maybe even 6/21/3 for that extra movespeed. And for runes, I ran my AD runes which are armor yellows, 2 LS quints, 1 AD quint, AD marks, and scaling MR blues.

But now that you mention, Trundle does poorly against mobile champs.

One thing Yasou did that was so frustrating is that once he got my tower, he kept pushing and warded the wraith so whenever he feels like it he can dash over the wall to wraith and I couldn't do anything even if i was going to win the trade at that point.

Just a tip some champs can do which I had never really thought of with Yasou



yasuo doesn't even need a ward he can just QE over the wall
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Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
January 10 2014 20:47 GMT
#3928
Rengar's Q cooldown should only start ticking once he attacks with it, like Vayne tumble.

Kha doesn't have 1500 glitches with Q, but his Q does 1500 damage.
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Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
January 10 2014 20:48 GMT
#3929
On January 11 2014 05:30 Rooster Cogburn wrote:
I ran basically the same runes and masteries you did. I went 9/21 I believe, but for some reason I might have gone 0/21/9 that game to see how it went but I can't remember right now. Maybe even 6/21/3 for that extra movespeed. And for runes, I ran my AD runes which are armor yellows, 2 LS quints, 1 AD quint, AD marks, and scaling MR blues.

But now that you mention, Trundle does poorly against mobile champs.

One thing Yasou did that was so frustrating is that once he got my tower, he kept pushing and warded the wraith so whenever he feels like it he can dash over the wall to wraith and I couldn't do anything even if i was going to win the trade at that point.

Just a tip some champs can do which I had never really thought of with Yasou


Ahh so same runes / mastery pages then. Mobile champs are really annoying for trundle no doubt. Flask / pots help with sustain. Yasuo in particular becomes much less mobile, if you can engage him once your minions are down.

About him jumping your wright camp- was he warding agressively to do so? Just curious if your jungle might have had time to stop by, for possibly an easy gank? Certainly if blue was up- it wouldn't be that far out of the way for mid to come by to say hi either.

Sadly you can't depend on that 100%- however your pillar gives vision, so perhaps it could make ganking in that situation a bit easier?
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-10 20:53:03
January 10 2014 20:52 GMT
#3930
I've tried Trundle top quite a few times, although that was a while ago. He can stay in lane well with his sustain and if you can pillar behind him and trade with him, he's pretty difficult to deal with. Especially after you get BotRK he's really difficult to run away from. If the opponent is melee, you can also Q him often and outtrade him very well. Biggest issue was against champions like Kennen and such but if you're vs an AD-based melee he could work...

Reason for BotRK is that his allin with it is very strong, almost guaranteed kill if they have no jumps. By that I mean that I could actually turretdive a Renekton effortlessly and kill him through his ult in like 5 hits.
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SimulatedAnneal
Profile Joined March 2012
765 Posts
January 10 2014 21:07 GMT
#3931
In ~5-10 Trundle vs Yasuo matchups so far, Trundle goes even with Yasuo and either one can win a post 6 all in. Yasuo usually has the advantage while ignite is up because he will be q poking and can all in with q knockup if you get low enough. Without ignite, Yasuo loses even fights until he finishes IEdge and Shiv. When his shield is up, proc it and back away. When it goes down he has to choose between backing away from the wave or losing trades. If your jungler is ignoring the lane just shove and go take jungle camps until Yasuo pushes it back.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
January 10 2014 21:09 GMT
#3932
On January 11 2014 05:32 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 05:28 cLutZ wrote:
All these ridiculous Rengar "fixes" why don't they just make it a spell like Khazix Q?

implying khaizix is balanced right now ?

Neither of them should do damage, they were both gutted, just like riven, kassadin, lee sin etc.
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Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-10 21:35:33
January 10 2014 21:35 GMT
#3933
On January 11 2014 06:09 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 05:32 kongoline wrote:
On January 11 2014 05:28 cLutZ wrote:
All these ridiculous Rengar "fixes" why don't they just make it a spell like Khazix Q?

implying khaizix is balanced right now ?

Neither of them should do damage, they were both gutted, just like riven, kassadin, lee sin etc.


So all fotm champs should be gutted once they hit fotm status? Cause outside of kass, which Riot admits is a tough champ to balance and they are still trying to do so, they've been pretty on point recently with all the champs they've released within the past year or so. And yeah Rengar Q is buggy but it's probably due to how Ferocity works, causing the double Q and triple Q to be a thing.

I mean, Riven was gutted once and she's still seeing play, Lee got changed a bit, Ahri and Zed got nerfed slightly to make their snowballing harder, Kha' Zix got nerfed so he can't just instagib someone with 4 attacks in .1 seconds (the E-W-Q-+Hydra activation), and all the S4 changes mean that support champs have new life in them because they aren't just ward dispensers anymore. The game is still in a bit of flux so give it time.

Also, NA servers dying again? Rito pls
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
January 10 2014 21:39 GMT
#3934
Pretty interesting atn vs clg discussion with Monte, Olly and some other dude. Starts around 43min

Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 10 2014 21:42 GMT
#3935
Let's see PBE changes. Kassadin changes: Aww, I wish they just had nerfed the numbers if he was OP. Would have been much more interesting.

Janna: This is good, 3s is much more plausible to achieve than 4.

Kogmaw: So he will get Ezreal Q? Hrm.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 10 2014 21:42 GMT
#3936
Khazix is probably the most fun of the AD assassins to watch. He also is the one that needs to snowball, which is kinda how I want assassins to have to operate.

The problem still exists that AD Assassins seem to always be oscillating between OP and irrelevant from patch to patch.
Freeeeeeedom
Cheap0
Profile Joined July 2012
United States540 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-10 22:40:23
January 10 2014 22:31 GMT
#3937
This game is so much more fun if you stop caring about winning or losing and go ham 100% of the time.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 10 2014 23:14 GMT
#3938
On January 11 2014 06:35 Kinie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 06:09 arb wrote:
On January 11 2014 05:32 kongoline wrote:
On January 11 2014 05:28 cLutZ wrote:
All these ridiculous Rengar "fixes" why don't they just make it a spell like Khazix Q?

implying khaizix is balanced right now ?

Neither of them should do damage, they were both gutted, just like riven, kassadin, lee sin etc.


So all fotm champs should be gutted once they hit fotm status? Cause outside of kass, which Riot admits is a tough champ to balance and they are still trying to do so, they've been pretty on point recently with all the champs they've released within the past year or so. And yeah Rengar Q is buggy but it's probably due to how Ferocity works, causing the double Q and triple Q to be a thing.

I mean, Riven was gutted once and she's still seeing play, Lee got changed a bit, Ahri and Zed got nerfed slightly to make their snowballing harder, Kha' Zix got nerfed so he can't just instagib someone with 4 attacks in .1 seconds (the E-W-Q-+Hydra activation), and all the S4 changes mean that support champs have new life in them because they aren't just ward dispensers anymore. The game is still in a bit of flux so give it time.

Also, NA servers dying again? Rito pls

I wouldn't say Lee just got changed "a bit." He's probably the most nerfed post-beta champion.
UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
January 10 2014 23:24 GMT
#3939
Looks like op.gg is up for other servers now, pretty much the lolking killer imo, simple and clean design with access to top ranked players and their stats and runes and masteries.
LoL: UnKooL and SoloQFiendUnKooL, SC2: UnKooL
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
January 10 2014 23:36 GMT
#3940
Someone dodged because I picked mid Ezreal in a normal... wtf is wrong with people ?
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