EPT[Patch 3.15] Yasuo General Discussion - Page 187
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On January 09 2014 07:43 Frudgey wrote: For all of you people who play a lot of bottom lane, is there a handy table/graph/something that tells someone about which ADC counters which ADC or which Support counters which Support? Something like that would be useful for me as I don't play bottom lane much and I don't want to be responsible for a complete disaster for when I do play it. If there isn't a resource like that then that's cool. That being said, even though there may be counters in bottom lane, isn't experience with bottom lane champions much more important? Like, if I don't know the match ups very well for bottom lane then I shouldn't worry about it. And on the same vein, are there any "safe" supports? Like supports that can do well in any situation? Thanks! Pick Sivir/Jinx/Lucian for bottom lane generally. They're the strongest and they don't require any special knowledge (cait needs to be pushing or she falls off). IIRC they're all about even vs each other though I am not sure. If you don't have big three, Varus is probably second behind that because of his AoE CC ult and great damage/poke but be smart you've no escape. Supports counter supports in pretty logical ways. Just think about how your abilities will interact and what you will do if you are effected by one of their abilities. Are you gonna 100% die? Then its probably a bad pick. Are you going to turn and blow their carry up? Probably a good pick. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
time to stack dat chedda | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On January 09 2014 10:58 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: so i've decided to try out support gangplank after realizing that his q procs relic and avarice blade procs on the execute time to stack dat chedda WELCOME TO THE INTERNATIONAL BANK OF BOTLANE STARRING HAWKSHOT-MAXING AVARICE BLADE SPIRIT RELIC ASHE WITH SUPPORT SPIRIT RELIC AVARICE BLADE GANGPLANK It's the only support I play when I'm with friends and end up having to go support. 5 items at 30 minutes is terror. In addition, spirit relic procs on the location the minion was killed, not where the caster was. So if an ally is near minions and gangplank has a spirit charge up, he has a global heal/slow. Terror. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Crusnik
United States5378 Posts
On January 09 2014 10:50 Goumindong wrote: Pick Sivir/Jinx/Lucian for bottom lane generally. They're the strongest and they don't require any special knowledge (cait needs to be pushing or she falls off). IIRC they're all about even vs each other though I am not sure. If you don't have big three, Varus is probably second behind that because of his AoE CC ult and great damage/poke but be smart you've no escape. Supports counter supports in pretty logical ways. Just think about how your abilities will interact and what you will do if you are effected by one of their abilities. Are you gonna 100% die? Then its probably a bad pick. Are you going to turn and blow their carry up? Probably a good pick. Tristana is also a fairly safe pick up, scales very well with items and can actually all-in fairly well at 2/6 if you stay inside of max jump range and your support also has some kind of initiate/follow up. If you're just looking for safe picks right now, as far as ADC goes Cait is always a safe pick, good laning and decent late game, Varus is a bully and has good teamfighting, if you can position him correctly and not get instagibbed by an assassin. Lucian/Jinx/Sivir are all really strong laners/teamfighters, lucian falls off a bit more than the other two, but can deal with really tanky members of the other team better since you can actually go blade on him without losing too much damage, unlike Sivir who really wants the AD/lifesteal from BT. Jinx can go either I guess, but since she has an Attack speed steriod on kit, going BT really helps her damage output. Supports I dont have nearly as much experience with, but Leona/Annie/Thresh are amazing picks currently with how strong their initiations are. Everyone else is really situational/how much you've practiced with them. Nami is a godlike support, if the support is really good at Nami due to her kit and how well she can either disengage or force either an unfavorable egagement/objective from her ult, almost the same as Zyra. I dont know all of the aspects of playing ADC/support, but those are the strongest ones currently, or at the very least the ones that the majority of pros play, so looking at what they play and what they're played with gives a good idea of what is pretty strong on current patches. | ||
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TheHumanSensation
Canada1210 Posts
On January 09 2014 11:43 GhandiEAGLE wrote: 5 items at 30 minutes is terror. Isn't 6 items by 20 minutes standard for all roles by now? Would be 7 but nobody upgrades trinket. | ||
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On January 09 2014 13:31 beefhamburger wrote: Xmithie and Zuna not switching roles. Doublelift said he talked to XDG and they weren't going through with that and that Saint had wrong info. Manclouds back still gunna break. He never stood a chance. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/01/18-pbe-update.html ![[image loading]](http://media-titanium.cursecdn.com/loldiffs/AirClientDiff_1_8_2014_9_04_PM/media/Diana_Splash_2.jpg) Rengar-(AIR ONLY) Q- buff on next attack reduced to 2 seconds from 6 Talon-(AIR ONLY) E - teleports to far side of target instead of behind, this has been a popular request on reddit to avoid wiffing Rake because of how tight Talon's "behind" the target is to similar abilities. | ||
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Nemireck
Canada1875 Posts
Some keys to note: Learn how to land your Q's Learn when to use and who to target with your E (I think the proper use of E is what separates good Nami players from the rest) Learn when to use your R to engage/disengage Keep your distance, many a Kissblade will tell you that it's very easy to get made dead when you play Nami, and you won't even realize how you ended up in the middle of 5 enemy champions. On a personal note, I have a hard time playing as Nami against high damage, hard engage champions like Alistar, Annie and Leona, I prefer Lulu in those situations. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On January 09 2014 14:24 Gahlo wrote: http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/26958-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-1-9-2014-lunar http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/01/18-pbe-update.html Rengar-(AIR ONLY) Q- buff on next attack reduced to 2 seconds from 6 Talon-(AIR ONLY) E - teleports to far side of target instead of behind, this has been a popular request on reddit to avoid wiffing Rake because of how tight Talon's "behind" the target is to similar abilities. welp. no more triple Qs and hopefully no more Rengar bugs. | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
Stream seems quality though. edit: That Diana skin is absolutely lovely btw. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On January 09 2014 08:44 Parnage wrote: So according to Nick Allen's twitter Lemondogs " failed to submit satisfactory paperwork and will be removed from the EU LCS." So that's a thing. And some asked me why I called the LD org useless and incompetent. Well there you go. :D Still sad that the only way to remove a bad org from LCS is if they are even unable to supply some papers. Otherwise they can stay forever as they own the spot and their players can never choose a new org if they dont want to leave LCS. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On January 09 2014 15:58 sung_moon wrote: I don't watch LoL-non tournament streams, but who is this "Nightblue3" guy and how does he have so many viewers? Stream seems quality though. edit: That Diana skin is absolutely lovely btw. Very high ranking Challenger jungler. He's very chill and interacts with his viewers a lot and gives out advice. | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
On January 09 2014 15:58 sung_moon wrote: I don't watch LoL-non tournament streams, but who is this "Nightblue3" guy and how does he have so many viewers? Stream seems quality though. edit: That Diana skin is absolutely lovely btw. Jungler that gained a ton of popularity recently because TheOddOne sent his legion of fans to watch him after one of his streams shortly before New Years I believe. In actuality he's a top 10 challenger Jungler on NA ladder who is in college and plays League for fun and competition. He interacts with his viewers and tries to talk to them or give advise when they ask questions. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
On January 09 2014 16:00 Redox wrote: And some asked me why I called the LD org useless and incompetent. Well there you go. :D Still sad that the only way to remove a bad org from LCS is if they are even unable to supply some papers. Otherwise they can stay forever as they own the spot and their players can never choose a new org if they dont want to leave LCS. Well it's not surprising, isn't LD owner some 19 or 20 yo kid ? | ||
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
On January 09 2014 16:39 cLutZ wrote: I wish they would give us some kind of clarity on runes. I feel paralyzed by them now. Half of me thinks that when i buy Hybrid Pen Marks, HP quints, etc they will become worthless. Then the other half fears that I will want a bunch of new runes the day after I splurge to complete my collection of AD Carries. I'm feeling the same. I was hoping we'd have some more information on rune changes by the new year. I want to get some, but I've been so tentative about it. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
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