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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 04 2014 23:54 GMT
#3161
On January 05 2014 07:53 Diamond wrote:
Am in gold, can confirm people lose their shit if you don't ban Nasus.

I keep doge banned because when they take him they always feed the other top 0/5 go "It's okay late game guis" while an 8/0 malphite or olaf is running around murdering us.
Glorious SEA doto
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 04 2014 23:59 GMT
#3162
On January 05 2014 08:47 mr_tolkien wrote:
Nasus is pretty good in soloQ since there are poor calls and games tend to draw long.

His W is crazy and has always been, he basically removes the AD if he doesn't have cleanse up.

Lucian laughs at doge.
Press E, make doge sad.
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
January 05 2014 00:01 GMT
#3163
On January 05 2014 07:51 InfSunday wrote:
How bad exactly is Riven getting nerfed? I had the impression it was just something smallish on her q damage....

edit: Lol at Nasus permabanned in gold. Sad but true.

They reduced 1 second on her shield duration.

Without playing her to judge the shield duration hit, it seems like a slap on the wrist.
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
January 05 2014 00:08 GMT
#3164
I started to play a little bit more jungle too. I really like Kha in soloq. He is like the Kassadin of jungle, Sooner or later there will be a teamfight where you get resets and get a double or triple and with sotel and hydra you just walk over camps. This is for gold.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-05 00:26:44
January 05 2014 00:23 GMT
#3165
The biggest issue with kha jungle is that if he falls behind he's almost worthless in a team right situation because he doesn't build tanky at all and relies on his E-Q+Hydra activation to 100-0 someone, get the reset and jump out again or jump onto the next squishy target, and if he gets Hydra late or doesn't get the reset he's a dead bug.

Granted most people seem to forget that or are idiots and sit there and try to kite him while he's busy AAing you as you try and run away, when all he's waiting for is his Q to get off CD to kill you cause said combo put you at like 10% HP.

Edit: he's also pretty blue dependant at start to help him clear camps fast and still have many for a bank, so if you can steal his blue you seriously hurt his early jungle start.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
January 05 2014 00:25 GMT
#3166
On January 05 2014 09:23 Kinie wrote:
The biggest issue with kha jungle is that if he falls behind he's almost worthless in a team right situation because he doesn't build tanky at all and relies on his E-Q+Hydra activation to 100-0 someone, get the reset and jump out again or jump onto the next squishy target, and if he gets Hydra late or doesn't get the reset he's a dead bug.

Sounds like Kha in general though.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23461 Posts
January 05 2014 00:25 GMT
#3167
how to fall behind in kha jnugle
collect free kills all day np
aka Teutonica
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
January 05 2014 00:31 GMT
#3168
On January 05 2014 09:25 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 09:23 Kinie wrote:
The biggest issue with kha jungle is that if he falls behind he's almost worthless in a team right situation because he doesn't build tanky at all and relies on his E-Q+Hydra activation to 100-0 someone, get the reset and jump out again or jump onto the next squishy target, and if he gets Hydra late or doesn't get the reset he's a dead bug.

Sounds like Kha in general though.


This is true, but of the 3 spots he can fit in (top, jungle, mid) jungle is probably the role most reliant on getting kills/assists as he's not getting cs from lane and needs to spend about 2300 on a jungle item before he can catch up to the owners in terms of gold. So if you can even just not die when he ganks your lane you should be able to stall his threat potential long enough for your tanks to get armor or the squshies to get more AD/AP/LS.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
January 05 2014 00:33 GMT
#3169
Real OP atm is mumu.

Shit's bananas.
The legend of Darien lives on
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
January 05 2014 00:37 GMT
#3170
On January 05 2014 09:31 Kinie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 09:25 Gahlo wrote:
On January 05 2014 09:23 Kinie wrote:
The biggest issue with kha jungle is that if he falls behind he's almost worthless in a team right situation because he doesn't build tanky at all and relies on his E-Q+Hydra activation to 100-0 someone, get the reset and jump out again or jump onto the next squishy target, and if he gets Hydra late or doesn't get the reset he's a dead bug.

Sounds like Kha in general though.


This is true, but of the 3 spots he can fit in (top, jungle, mid) jungle is probably the role most reliant on getting kills/assists as he's not getting cs from lane and needs to spend about 2300 on a jungle item before he can catch up to the owners in terms of gold. So if you can even just not die when he ganks your lane you should be able to stall his threat potential long enough for your tanks to get armor or the squshies to get more AD/AP/LS.


While this is ofc true, you also have another big damage source in your team prob aoe so its way easier to get resets. You can just stay around even and then boom that 1 fight get triple and go from there. This is my experience. He is also obv great dueling in the jungle with your evolved q.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
January 05 2014 00:43 GMT
#3171
I agree, I'm just not sold on kha jungle as other people, at least for pre-6 ganks. Post-6 though I'm totally worried about kha dropping out of stealth with an e-q combo on my head followed up by whatever ulti or attack my lane opponent does.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
January 05 2014 00:43 GMT
#3172
On January 05 2014 09:31 Kinie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 09:25 Gahlo wrote:
On January 05 2014 09:23 Kinie wrote:
The biggest issue with kha jungle is that if he falls behind he's almost worthless in a team right situation because he doesn't build tanky at all and relies on his E-Q+Hydra activation to 100-0 someone, get the reset and jump out again or jump onto the next squishy target, and if he gets Hydra late or doesn't get the reset he's a dead bug.

Sounds like Kha in general though.


This is true, but of the 3 spots he can fit in (top, jungle, mid) jungle is probably the role most reliant on getting kills/assists as he's not getting cs from lane and needs to spend about 2300 on a jungle item before he can catch up to the owners in terms of gold. So if you can even just not die when he ganks your lane you should be able to stall his threat potential long enough for your tanks to get armor or the squshies to get more AD/AP/LS.

At the same time, you don't buy Muramana (2.1k vs 2k, actually.) Which gives you a faster boost in stats with a similarly long "dead period" that you can initial shop into.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
January 05 2014 00:52 GMT
#3173
Uhh, don't think tear/muramana is ever bought on kha anymore. Pretty sure most lane khas go straight hydra or brutalizer into hydra with a d. blade or d. shield start.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 05 2014 00:54 GMT
#3174
On January 05 2014 09:52 Kinie wrote:
Uhh, don't think tear/muramana is ever bought on kha anymore. Pretty sure most lane khas go straight hydra or brutalizer into hydra with a d. blade or d. shield start.

I believe that dade went tear on kha'zix against CJ frost, there is still some use for W max kha'zix primarily as supplementary with another champion for pick offs.
Glorious SEA doto
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
January 05 2014 00:59 GMT
#3175
I believe the only time I see a kha go tear is like Dade did for W evolve first, but that is usually only when you expect to be doing a poke/siege comp and spamming them to dissuade them from engaging on you, with the fear that a tear + hydra kha will go from missile barrage into eviscerating your back line when your front line is sufficiently weakened by all the poking you did.
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-05 01:14:23
January 05 2014 01:14 GMT
#3176
Lovedrop wrote:
no one plays dotalol to win, ppl play dotalol to make other mothefuckers lose

and some times, those fuckers are on your team

✓ just do it


and sometimes you queue up as a 5 man premade with those fuckers
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
January 05 2014 01:17 GMT
#3177
On January 05 2014 03:04 Celial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 21:28 JazzVortical wrote:
On January 04 2014 19:42 GolemMadness wrote:
Just played a game with an Eve who went 0/21/9 and SotEL. We still won, but I mean... what?

Brain doesn't compute.

Reminds me of when zed was first pick/ban status. People were like "for the love of god don't ban zed, I'll play him". He gets through the bans, gets picked by a Zed 'devotee' and is 0/4 in 5 minutes.


I'm pretty sure he's talking about masteries, not KDA.


Yes. Yes I was.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
January 05 2014 01:22 GMT
#3178
Watching Voyboys stream for the first time in ages. Little bit disappointed to say the least. He may be the weakest mid in NA LCS now. I think Curse will have a RLY hard time. I dont even know, who they got top lol but their bot and mid seems weak even for NA standards.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
January 05 2014 01:25 GMT
#3179
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 05 2014 01:31 GMT
#3180
On January 05 2014 10:22 Kenpark wrote:
Watching Voyboys stream for the first time in ages. Little bit disappointed to say the least. He may be the weakest mid in NA LCS now. I think Curse will have a RLY hard time. I dont even know, who they got top lol but their bot and mid seems weak even for NA standards.

Quas is heavily hyped as the next big thing in NA, he seems to be the strongest curse player by quite a bit.
Glorious SEA doto
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