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[Patch 3.15] Yasuo General Discussion - Page 160

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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
January 05 2014 01:32 GMT
#3181
Top is the hardest position to carry from though so it will be hard for him.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 05 2014 01:34 GMT
#3182
It's still really good because fast, reactive against anything involving a dash or projectile, and combines defense+mobility (and a stack of passive) on a short cd and with good scaling.

What it means it that you won't have to wait so much to be able to hit her without wasting your mana/cooldowns/whatever. As Pantheon, the most annoying things about Riven are her annoying strong level 1 (and ability to easily hit 2 first while hitting you with the AoE for an all-in to the face), and how long the damn shield lasts because you want to Q her, but you have to keep walking to stay in range for something like 3 seconds till it wears off and you can expend some of your precious mana.

When chasing her, you don't have much time either because of how damn mobile she is, so either you waste damage by hitting the shield, or you run the risk of her escaping it every time she shields you wait for it to wear off while pursuing.

And during skirmishes or especially clean-up phases, it's absurdly powerful because its downtime is low while she has incredible damage output (and sustain if she gets some lifesteal, thanks to the goddamn passive) so she's very hard to kill for champions with low damage output, or relying on dps (as opposed to burst used between shields). It's not that rare that her shield isn't broken before expiration in these situations, kinda like how Lux is so hard to finish off ('cept even Lux has real regular abilities' cooldowns compared to Riven).


Lowering the duration of the shield doesn't make her weaker in most situations, notably burst trades, early phases of teamfights, etc. where the shield would have been destroyed immediatly either way, but it makes her less obnoxious in those "highlight reels" videos where it's really just someone mashing Riven's shit on cd and when in range of somebody, which makes her look impressive at low health when she's actually just broken and faceroll as hell.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 05 2014 01:35 GMT
#3183
Quas is a beast, but Voy isn't adjusting to Mid as well as I had hoped. I think he would have done well in the assassin meta but is struggling with the current Mid meta. I thought he'd at least be an upgrade over Jacky, now I'm not so sure...
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 05 2014 01:39 GMT
#3184
On January 05 2014 10:35 onlywonderboy wrote:
Quas is a beast, but Voy isn't adjusting to Mid as well as I had hoped. I think he would have done well in the assassin meta but is struggling with the current Mid meta. I thought he'd at least be an upgrade over Jacky, now I'm not so sure...

From watching lolpro, he still is an upgrade to jacky.
Glorious SEA doto
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
January 05 2014 01:40 GMT
#3185
On January 05 2014 08:54 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 07:53 Diamond wrote:
Am in gold, can confirm people lose their shit if you don't ban Nasus.

I keep doge banned because when they take him they always feed the other top 0/5 go "It's okay late game guis" while an 8/0 malphite or olaf is running around murdering us.


You can lose to Malphite as Nasus?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 05 2014 01:42 GMT
#3186
On January 05 2014 10:40 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 08:54 Fusilero wrote:
On January 05 2014 07:53 Diamond wrote:
Am in gold, can confirm people lose their shit if you don't ban Nasus.

I keep doge banned because when they take him they always feed the other top 0/5 go "It's okay late game guis" while an 8/0 malphite or olaf is running around murdering us.


You can lose to Malphite as Nasus?

I don't even know, I was at bot so I wasn't paying attention but when I looked at top somehow malphite was 1v2 killing nasus and vi over and over.
Glorious SEA doto
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
January 05 2014 01:44 GMT
#3187
On January 05 2014 10:42 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 10:40 GolemMadness wrote:
On January 05 2014 08:54 Fusilero wrote:
On January 05 2014 07:53 Diamond wrote:
Am in gold, can confirm people lose their shit if you don't ban Nasus.

I keep doge banned because when they take him they always feed the other top 0/5 go "It's okay late game guis" while an 8/0 malphite or olaf is running around murdering us.


You can lose to Malphite as Nasus?

I don't even know, I was at bot so I wasn't paying attention but when I looked at top somehow malphite was 1v2 killing nasus and vi over and over.


You get spectre's and can literally just ignore him in lane. It's great fun.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 05 2014 01:49 GMT
#3188
Malphite is like a dream matchup as Nasus lol. You easily sustain through his Q, you outpush, you can farm Q all day, you can take TP to counter his TP plays.

What a bizarre occurrence.
Freeeeeeedom
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
January 05 2014 01:50 GMT
#3189
In solo que, anything is possible.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
January 05 2014 01:52 GMT
#3190
whenever i see shen or malphite picked into nasus i want to dodge
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
January 05 2014 01:53 GMT
#3191
On January 05 2014 10:35 onlywonderboy wrote:
Quas is a beast, but Voy isn't adjusting to Mid as well as I had hoped. I think he would have done well in the assassin meta but is struggling with the current Mid meta. I thought he'd at least be an upgrade over Jacky, now I'm not so sure...


This is just my opinion but he seems to be too busy trying to make the hype-y plays in solo Q and not playing a smart, efficient lane. I'm not saying its his fault (cause I agree with the sentiment of Voy being weak in mid ATM) but I feel its a combination of yolo Q mentality and his overall lack of experience in mid.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-05 02:16:27
January 05 2014 02:14 GMT
#3192
Voy was very underwhelming in the one game I watched of his. He played mid Yasuo, built glass cannon and got popped every time he went in. Honestly, he needs to pick a few traditional mids, just be conservative and farm with them then blow stuff up in teamfights and slowly learn how to trade and lane, maybe watch some Faker vids. Play like Ziggs or something.

Panth vs Riven is just bad. Panth relies on winning before he runs out of mana, and against a resourceless champ with a shield like Riven, he's pretty much screwed.
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22552 Posts
January 05 2014 02:22 GMT
#3193
Id go as far to say that any pro mid who cant play Ziggs is asking to get wrecked. Sure it might be banned every game but you need to know what your doing and force that ban.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-05 02:25:03
January 05 2014 02:24 GMT
#3194
He can win if he forces her to manfight. But when she has a stun, a triple dash, a shield+dash, and is sure to hit 2 first while having a more powerful level 2 all-in than his, it's pretty hard to obtain it without ruining your health or wave control first.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 05 2014 02:26 GMT
#3195
It's pretty obvious how underwhelming Voyboy is, when he's getting outplayed by Scarra. lol.
liftlift > tsm
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-05 02:39:33
January 05 2014 02:31 GMT
#3196
TBH scarra has outplayed some really good mids. It's his judgement that's bad, not his ability.'

Not saying Voy's a great mid, just saying it doesn't surprise me THAT much for Scarra to pull off an outplay in a 1v1 scenario. Gragas is beast in 1v1 melee range anyway, and the turret minion did a lot of work.
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-05 02:40:53
January 05 2014 02:40 GMT
#3197
idk, scarra looked to be at his worst at BotA. He died to Elise cocoons with flash up sooo many times and his Gragas in general was just bad, even for being his best champion. hopefully this 4th or 5th Dignitas "we're going to get our shit together we promise guys" event actually turns out for the better...

his good plays are just too far and few between.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 05 2014 02:40 GMT
#3198
Dignitas n1 underperformers NA
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-05 02:46:01
January 05 2014 02:41 GMT
#3199
And my god, Voy why are you fighting the Cait that's up 5 kills on you.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
January 05 2014 03:00 GMT
#3200
can any1 explain the bot lane inhibitor advantage late game? I heard some ppl said about the patch changes and i dont understand
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