EPT[Patch 3.15] Yasuo General Discussion - Page 134
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
twitch+nami? (does nami E with twitch R still result in extra procs?) jinx+annie/leona (heard about this one, just straight up kill lane?) corki+taric? (would max E corki work?) graves+? kogmaw+? would be great if you could explain your choices, thanks a lot! | ||
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TheHumanSensation
Canada1210 Posts
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On December 31 2013 20:40 TheHumanSensation wrote: I've been enjoying Ashe/Leona lately. With all the bruisers / off-tanks / what-have-you running around, it's a good mix of single target lockdown if you're being dived, as well as the AoE for the hopeful big teamfight. In lane it just feels generally strong, if you win a trade you get a kill, and you pretty much can't die. I always do bad with Ashe. Always get dived, plus I don't like picking champs that need peel  | ||
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
On December 31 2013 20:30 Osmoses wrote: stop shitting up tllolgd with your hurt feelings. On December 31 2013 20:30 Osmoses wrote: Christsakes, streaming is his job, he's an entertainer, get off your retarded high horses and accept the fact that nobody's perfect. If you don't like phantomlord. hue | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
Might as well take a dump ontop of the pile naamsaying :p | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
Might even pay more than running a few twitch ads with an extra 100k viewers. | ||
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
On December 31 2013 20:34 nyxnyxnyx wrote: what are some good bot lane combos right now? twitch+nami? (does nami E with twitch R still result in extra procs?) jinx+annie/leona (heard about this one, just straight up kill lane?) corki+taric? (would max E corki work?) graves+? kogmaw+? would be great if you could explain your choices, thanks a lot! finally someone bring this up. I'am kind of surprised we don't have a botlane combo thread in strategy or a general soloq strategy thread. Botlane combos have a pretty huge impact on the game, how it is played and the powercurve of the whole team. It is interesting that you would pick jinx into a kill lane. I think there are 2 ways of grouping botlane combos: 1. General Playstyle groups: Burst, Poke/Kite, Push, Sustain, Lockdown. 2. Explicit Synergy Combos. Alot of botlane champs fit into more than 1 Category, but I the interesting part is that you cannot simply say X+Y is a good botlane combo no matter what. Most people go for Burst + Lockdown when they think Synergy, sometimes Poke + Sustain but there are other potent ones, especially if you tailor them to your opponent. The Push and Sustain kind of combos are often safe enough to deal with virtually any kill combo if you execute it properly. For example Graves + Soraka was a lane played often some time ago and has come out of favor for a while. But I don't think there are alot of kill lanes who can flat out tank a pushed creepwave and outtrade their tankyness and damage. Soraka can be traded for sona/lulu/janna and you get similar results. The first Lockdown combo I remember being popular was Taric + Cait. It was when the European Style Positions started out to be generally adopted and Cait was played more and more. You can have similar results with Zyra/Leona mb Annie as well. I've also seen Vayne+Thresh quite a bit at least end of season 3. Lockdown combos are interesting especially when facing Poke combos. When both sides position well and respect their opponent there will be alot of repositioning and baiting going on. Explicit Synergy Combos often come from one champion needing a certain playstyle/kit from the other. Like Varus for example is quite strong at Poke, Burst and Lockdown, so he makes for a good kill lane partner. But he needs an initiator preferably hard CC to combo his passive properly and because his own CC is an AoE slow and a very slow moving shortranged skillshot. So Leona, Sona, Annie, Zyra etc. are good fits. A wrong aproach for Synergy would be picking Janna to help his lack of kiting/escape and to help his AD based combo with her shield, but then you end up with very awkward spellcombos and suddenly Varus who has no means of getting in/out a fight or forcing one without using ult has to initiate/start every trade on his own. Short story: Varus is a follow up kind of champion and needs an initiator. Annie is really hot atm but she suffers greatly against strong Poke lanes, when she has to do all the work. I would pair her up with a champ who has either a form of CC him/herself like Ashe/Jinx and can do a ton of poking as well, or with a champ who has enough burst to make every enagement a potential kill and kind of scare a Poke combo from overextending. | ||
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Prog
United Kingdom1470 Posts
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Mensol
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She looks so dull compared to lucian/jinx/sivir | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On December 31 2013 18:16 Dusty wrote: If phantoml0rd for whatever reason wasn't streaming today, they would have gone to the next most popular streamer and done the same exact thing. That being said, you're retarded. Congratulations on blaming the victim. still have zero way of knowing if he orchestrated the entire thing. which i see as quite likely at this point | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
Plz don't buff cait, seeing turtle play her scares me. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 31 2013 20:40 TheHumanSensation wrote: I've been enjoying Ashe/Leona lately. With all the bruisers / off-tanks / what-have-you running around, it's a good mix of single target lockdown if you're being dived, as well as the AoE for the hopeful big teamfight. In lane it just feels generally strong, if you win a trade you get a kill, and you pretty much can't die. Ashe burst is too low though. Try Lucian/Graves + Leona.  | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On December 31 2013 22:59 Mensol wrote: Caitlyn needs some serious buffs She looks so dull compared to lucian/jinx/sivir Sivir is more boring than Cait imo. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On December 31 2013 22:59 Mensol wrote: Caitlyn needs some serious buffs She looks so dull compared to lucian/jinx/sivir She has the best auto animation at least.That is rather enjoyable. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On January 01 2014 00:05 Sufficiency wrote: Ashe burst is too low though. Try Lucian/Graves + Leona. volley hurts volley + 100% crit auto at lvl 1 is pretty derp | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 31 2013 22:59 Mensol wrote: Caitlyn needs some serious buffs She looks so dull compared to lucian/jinx/sivir Piglet makes her look super scary. She's still really good competitive play cuz her 2v1 is still really powerful. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
For her to be really good in soloQ, she'd have to be batshit OP. | ||
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