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KeSPA President Jun Byung-Hun issued a ‘President’s Letter’ of disappointment regarding the ‘Team Dark incident’ on Nov. 25th.
Chairman Jun stated that he plans to write more ‘President’s Letters’ to fans in the future in which he precisely explains the stance of KeSPA regarding future issues as well.
Below is the full ‘President’s Letter’ about Team Dark:
On Saturday evening I received many SNS messages from E-Sports fans saying that ‘Sportsmanship in E-Sports has crumbled.’
On Sunday, after finishing a briefing for political issues, I was informed of the details regarding the game, the news reports about it, and the reaction from the community and the fans. This letter to the fans and the press contains the conclusion that KeSPA reached.
Firstly, as the President and leader of Korean E-Sports, I cannot help but express extreme disappointment about this incident.
Even though ‘Team Dark’ is not part of KeSPA and are not licensed progamers, as President and representative of Korean E-Sports I apologize to all the fans who felt irritated after the match.
As President, I feel that this incident cannot happen in the future, and KeSPA, Riot Games, and Ongamenet are discussing appropriate actions for ‘Team Dark,’ and the results of our discussion will be announced as soon as possible.
However, as President I have a responsibility to not just pros, but Korean E-Sports as a whole. I believe that a new system should be created in which amateurs are able to shoot for higher challenges, and this system should not create a situation in which the passion of the amateurs can be broken.
E-Sports’s greatest strength that other sports lack, in my opinion, is ‘open opportunity.’
The World Championship is a worldwide festival for all the fans who enjoy League of Legends. All those who enjoy playing LoL should have a shot at the title.
Though a team may not be pro, if that amateur team has a passion hotter than pros, that team should be given a chance to win the World Championships, and open opportunities like this will make Korean E-Sports healthier and progress further.
KeSPA will take this bad incident as a lesson and will think about ways to revitalize teams with a system of support and promotion to create a healthy amateur scene filled with passion.
Also, we will review our current progamer licensing system as a whole.
Lastly, as President I will look forward to the day when the ‘Amateur’s Passion’ overcomes the ‘Pro’s Experience.’
Translated by jpak
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Team dark incident? Is this the old elo boosting thing or?
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team dark played a cloudtemplar (currently on the casting desk at ogn) tribute comp of 5 junglers in game 2 of their group stage set against samsung ozone. they were out of group stages at that point, and ozone all but guaranteed to go through, so their reasoning was that they had leeway to fool around and entertain the fans given that this was a rubber match.
however, some were not entertained
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12/25/2013 - where fun was no longer allowed in pro play
On November 26 2013 11:56 EtherealDeath wrote:
Team dark incident? Is this the old elo boosting thing or?
they were basically eliminated in group stage so they played a game with cloudtemplar's favorite champs
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United States15536 Posts
As proven by Naniwa v. Nestea, 2012, this kind of stuff is always bound to cause a shitstorm in Korea.
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they knew that there would be backlash. its pretty implicit in korean gaming culture. they clearly didn't give enough of a fuck or didn't think it through very well, but its not career-endingly bad backlash like apdo's case.
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meh, the Hiya vs Pusan game with the corsair disruption webs and nukes didn't get this kind of backlash
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Isn't this the same thing that happened with Naniwa vs Nestea where Naniwa just probe rushed the opponent?
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are you joking? corsair dweb in PvT as "not unheard of"? that game was as clear as a joke game as BW games have ever gone and people LOVED it. both players already failed to qualify for the next rounds so it was a pure game of formality and Pusan took the opportunity to do a fun joke strat and Hiya responded in kind with his own troll shit. what the fuck's the difference? this team already failed to move on and the game was pure formality, so they decided to do a joke game. where's the difference?
"Sportsmanship in E-Sports has crumbled" because of one joke game that made use of a game of pure formality? now that's a fucking joke.
edit: it wasn't Hiya vs Pusan - I'm trying to find out exactly which game it was
edit2: Pusan vs. go.go 2009-12-11
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note the repeated references to 'korean esports' and the 'world championships' - now that korean gaming is receiving international attention on a level that makes bw look niche, appearances are taken much more seriously
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
Especially if group seeding isnt still decided.
One Inven journalist wrote in his column that "Progamer are not Entertainer"
I think hes right.
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There is nobody to blame here except OnGameNet.
If you don't make these kids sign contracts that say they can't do this then you leave yourself open to the risk of it. Make the contract state they will not earn any money from competing if they break the rules.
I mean it's fucking "We Came to Slay the Peasants" we are talking about here. Apdo's team. Am I the only one not surprised (and actually glad) that this happened? I have no sympathy for all these butthurt koreans saying this is such a bad thing.
I don't see the last place team in the NBA trolling because they aren't going to make the playoffs I FUCKING WONDER WHY HMMMMMMM. Could it be because the NBA didn't let an amateur team of street basketball players from Rucker Park play in the NBA? Could it be perhaps because the players are expected to perform by their organization? I could go on and on.
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Isn't the moral of the story "don't provide useless games"?
You want a bunch of people to play to win? The best way of doing that is making sure they have an incentive to do so. If your tournament format doesn't have meaningless games or kingmaker games then this shit is much much less likely to happen.
Make a better tournament format please
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
On November 26 2013 17:12 scrubtastic wrote:
Isn't the moral of the story "don't provide useless games"?
You want a bunch of people to play to win? The best way of doing that is making sure they have an incentive to do so. If your tournament format doesn't have meaningless games or kingmaker games then this shit is much much less likely to happen.
Make a better tournament format please
you didnt read. The games werent pointless because the seeding wasn't decided. They could have advanced in theory
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Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On November 26 2013 11:46 jpak wrote:+ Show Spoiler +InvenKeSPA President Jun Byung-Hun issued a ‘President’s Letter’ of disappointment regarding the ‘Team Dark incident’ on Nov. 25th. Chairman Jun stated that he plans to write more ‘President’s Letters’ to fans in the future in which he precisely explains the stance of KeSPA regarding future issues as well. Below is the full ‘President’s Letter’ about Team Dark: On Saturday evening I received many SNS messages from E-Sports fans saying that ‘Sportsmanship in E-Sports has crumbled.’ I was informed of the details regarding the game, the news reports about it, and the reaction from the community and the fans. This letter to the fans and the press contains the conclusion that KeSPA reached.
Firstly, as the President and leader of Korean E-Sports, I cannot help but express extreme disappointment about this incident.
Even though ‘Team Dark’ is not part of KeSPA and are not licensed progamers, as President and representative of Korean E-Sports I apologize to all the fans who felt irritated after the match.
As President, I feel that this incident cannot happen in the future, and KeSPA, Riot Games, and Ongamenet are discussing appropriate actions for ‘Team Dark,’ and the results of our discussion will be announced as soon as possible.
However, as President I have a responsibility to not just pros, but Korean E-Sports as a whole.I believe that a new system should be created in which amateurs are able to shoot for higher challenges, and this system should not create a situation in which the passion of the amateurs can be broken.
E-Sports’s greatest strength that other sports lack, in my opinion, is ‘open opportunity.’
The World Championship is a worldwide festival for all the fans who enjoy League of Legends. All those who enjoy playing LoL should have a shot at the title.
Though a team may not be pro, if that amateur team has a passion hotter than pros, that team should be given a chance to win the World Championships, and open opportunities like this will make Korean E-Sports healthier and progress further.
KeSPA will take this bad incident as a lesson and will think about ways to revitalize teams with a system of support and promotion to create a healthy amateur scene filled with passion.
Also, we will review our current progamer licensing system as a whole.
Lastly, as President I will look forward to the day when the ‘Amateur’s Passion’ overcomes the ‘Pro’s Experience.’
Translated by jpak
just casually mentions his Sunday political briefings. power move.
controversy aside I think it's interesting he talked so much about esports being a more open and amateur teams having more opportunities for the world championship.
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I leave this to bad tourney format. Don't have players play pointless matches if you don't want this shit to happen. Having memorable match for a team that can't progress is actually the best financial move, cuz at least they get more name exposure.
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
On November 26 2013 18:50 wei2coolman wrote:
I leave this to bad tourney format. Don't have players play pointless matches if you don't want this shit to happen. Having memorable match for a team that can't progress is actually the best financial move, cuz at least they get more name exposure.
and you failed to read too.
Seeding wasnt decided yet for the group. Do you guys even read the posts from others?
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