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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 27 2013 04:08 GMT
#1541
Maybe they made the execute only work on melee minions by accident.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
November 27 2013 04:15 GMT
#1542
These 15m+ queues are killing me!

Wait longer for a game than actually playing. Will take literally forever at this rate to lvl up and get out of scrub elo hell.

Is there just less ppl playing atm? I have no idea what's going on.
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
Kyrie
Profile Joined June 2013
1594 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-27 04:17:29
November 27 2013 04:15 GMT
#1543
On November 27 2013 12:23 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 11:26 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
We've been over this, Karma isn't actually black.

Or so they say. I still don't buy it.

Ionia = stereotypical Asian nation-state. Karma is Indian.


i've always been confused as where irelia fits in, given that the other ionian champs have apparent ethnicities. yes hiten is japanese but she hardly looks it in the western splashes. chinese splashes are more asian but so is basically every champ

obligatory reassertion that league lore would make for an excellent mmo and that lore reworks show that riot knows it
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
November 27 2013 04:19 GMT
#1544
On November 27 2013 13:15 Clinic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 12:23 thenexusp wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:26 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
We've been over this, Karma isn't actually black.

Or so they say. I still don't buy it.

Ionia = stereotypical Asian nation-state. Karma is Indian.


i've always been confused as where irelia fits in, given that the other ionian champs have apparent ethnicities. yes hiten is japanese but she hardly looks it in the western splashes. chinese splashes are more asian but so is basically every champ

obligatory reassertion that league lore would make for an excellent mmo and that lore reworks show that riot knows it

Nonsense.

League lore would make for an excellent TCG.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
GreenBlue
Profile Joined November 2010
United States106 Posts
November 27 2013 04:24 GMT
#1545
On November 27 2013 13:15 Khul Sadukar wrote:
These 15m+ queues are killing me!

Wait longer for a game than actually playing. Will take literally forever at this rate to lvl up and get out of scrub elo hell.

Is there just less ppl playing atm? I have no idea what's going on.



If it's prime time on the server and you're getting 15+min queue on your scrub you probably wrecked all the scrubs you have to wait to find 9 other gold+ smurfs to play with
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 27 2013 04:43 GMT
#1546
On November 27 2013 13:19 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 13:15 Clinic wrote:
On November 27 2013 12:23 thenexusp wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:26 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
We've been over this, Karma isn't actually black.

Or so they say. I still don't buy it.

Ionia = stereotypical Asian nation-state. Karma is Indian.


i've always been confused as where irelia fits in, given that the other ionian champs have apparent ethnicities. yes hiten is japanese but she hardly looks it in the western splashes. chinese splashes are more asian but so is basically every champ

obligatory reassertion that league lore would make for an excellent mmo and that lore reworks show that riot knows it

Nonsense.

League lore would make for an excellent TCG.

If League had any lore.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
November 27 2013 04:44 GMT
#1547
On November 27 2013 13:24 GreenBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 13:15 Khul Sadukar wrote:
These 15m+ queues are killing me!

Wait longer for a game than actually playing. Will take literally forever at this rate to lvl up and get out of scrub elo hell.

Is there just less ppl playing atm? I have no idea what's going on.



If it's prime time on the server and you're getting 15+min queue on your scrub you probably wrecked all the scrubs you have to wait to find 9 other gold+ smurfs to play with


Sigh I guess. I'm currently like 12/3 win ratio or something. I don't think these guys are smurfs though, most of them are terribad. Might just grind out some bot games or something. (btw Intermediate bots on dominion are frigen crazy!)
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-27 04:49:07
November 27 2013 04:48 GMT
#1548
On November 27 2013 13:44 Khul Sadukar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 13:24 GreenBlue wrote:
On November 27 2013 13:15 Khul Sadukar wrote:
These 15m+ queues are killing me!

Wait longer for a game than actually playing. Will take literally forever at this rate to lvl up and get out of scrub elo hell.

Is there just less ppl playing atm? I have no idea what's going on.



If it's prime time on the server and you're getting 15+min queue on your scrub you probably wrecked all the scrubs you have to wait to find 9 other gold+ smurfs to play with


Sigh I guess. I'm currently like 12/3 win ratio or something. I don't think these guys are smurfs though, most of them are terribad. Might just grind out some bot games or something. (btw Intermediate bots on dominion are frigen crazy!)

This might shock you, but most players are terribad and hence most smurfs are terribad as well, even if they're made by actual lvl 30s.

It's been a while since I made a new account but I never had an issue with queue timers. Maybe like 5 minutes at 4am or something. Perhaps the amount of new players is decreasing?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
November 27 2013 04:56 GMT
#1549
On November 27 2013 13:48 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 13:44 Khul Sadukar wrote:
On November 27 2013 13:24 GreenBlue wrote:
On November 27 2013 13:15 Khul Sadukar wrote:
These 15m+ queues are killing me!

Wait longer for a game than actually playing. Will take literally forever at this rate to lvl up and get out of scrub elo hell.

Is there just less ppl playing atm? I have no idea what's going on.



If it's prime time on the server and you're getting 15+min queue on your scrub you probably wrecked all the scrubs you have to wait to find 9 other gold+ smurfs to play with


Sigh I guess. I'm currently like 12/3 win ratio or something. I don't think these guys are smurfs though, most of them are terribad. Might just grind out some bot games or something. (btw Intermediate bots on dominion are frigen crazy!)

This might shock you, but most players are terribad and hence most smurfs are terribad as well, even if they're made by actual lvl 30s.

It's been a while since I made a new account but I never had an issue with queue timers. Maybe like 5 minutes at 4am or something. Perhaps the amount of new players is decreasing?


You win too much get too high elo takes a while for the matchign system to branch out far enough that you can get a game.
Easiest solution is just duoq with a bad friend or level 30, or lose a bunch of games.

I had that problem leveling my smurf. I think unless your Diamond it doesn't get that bad though
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 27 2013 05:28 GMT
#1550
I found this really funny.

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4064887

RIP Prodigal Son
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
November 27 2013 05:32 GMT
#1551
On November 27 2013 13:43 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 13:19 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On November 27 2013 13:15 Clinic wrote:
On November 27 2013 12:23 thenexusp wrote:
On November 27 2013 11:26 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
We've been over this, Karma isn't actually black.

Or so they say. I still don't buy it.

Ionia = stereotypical Asian nation-state. Karma is Indian.


i've always been confused as where irelia fits in, given that the other ionian champs have apparent ethnicities. yes hiten is japanese but she hardly looks it in the western splashes. chinese splashes are more asian but so is basically every champ

obligatory reassertion that league lore would make for an excellent mmo and that lore reworks show that riot knows it

Nonsense.

League lore would make for an excellent TCG.

If League had any lore.

You don't need lore to make a TCG, don't be silly

All you need is some flavor text maybe and you already have the /j and the /t for those.

Soraka [Normal] 80 HP

[Normal][Normal] Starcall 20+
If Soraka used Starcall last turn, Starcall does 40 damage, otherwise, it does 20 damage.

[Normal][Normal] Wish
Remove 4 damage counters from all Soraka and each Pokemon on your bench. Discard an energy from Soraka.

Weakness [Fight] +20 Resistance - Retreat Cost * *
"Do you always fight so poorly?"
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
November 27 2013 05:44 GMT
#1552
Any ashe players on TL?
learning to play her because she is only 450 IP. What are some tips/tricks? Good guides?
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
November 27 2013 05:47 GMT
#1553
On November 27 2013 14:44 nosliw wrote:
Any ashe players on TL?
learning to play her because she is only 450 IP. What are some tips/tricks? Good guides?

They chase you run, they run you chase.
Use spells wisely to assist your running and chasing.
pretty much it.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 27 2013 05:52 GMT
#1554
On November 27 2013 14:44 nosliw wrote:
Any ashe players on TL?
learning to play her because she is only 450 IP. What are some tips/tricks? Good guides?

Land ulti's.
Always build IE + shiv.
Make use of passive early on in lane.
Hope that they're not playing assassins.
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35166 Posts
November 27 2013 05:53 GMT
#1555
On November 27 2013 14:47 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 14:44 nosliw wrote:
Any ashe players on TL?
learning to play her because she is only 450 IP. What are some tips/tricks? Good guides?

They chase you run, they run you chase.
Use spells wisely to assist your running and chasing.
pretty much it.

Your arrows are like blitz hooks, but people will rage harder if you miss.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-27 05:55:01
November 27 2013 05:54 GMT
#1556
Fun fact about Ashe: She has the highest level 18 attack speed in the game. This isn't counting abilities or passives though, as she obviously loses out in the steroids department. But despite having no steroids her damage isn't as bad as it might seem on first blush.

On November 27 2013 14:53 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 14:47 canikizu wrote:
On November 27 2013 14:44 nosliw wrote:
Any ashe players on TL?
learning to play her because she is only 450 IP. What are some tips/tricks? Good guides?

They chase you run, they run you chase.
Use spells wisely to assist your running and chasing.
pretty much it.

Your arrows are like blitz hooks, but people will rage harder if you miss.

Her arrow is like 3x wider than a blitz hook or varus ult though, it's hard to miss if you use it at all thoughtfully
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-27 05:59:25
November 27 2013 05:59 GMT
#1557
On November 27 2013 14:54 thenexusp wrote:
Fun fact about Ashe: She has the highest level 18 attack speed in the game. This isn't counting abilities or passives though, as she obviously loses out in the steroids department. But despite having no steroids her damage isn't as bad as it might seem on first blush.

Show nested quote +
On November 27 2013 14:53 Gahlo wrote:
On November 27 2013 14:47 canikizu wrote:
On November 27 2013 14:44 nosliw wrote:
Any ashe players on TL?
learning to play her because she is only 450 IP. What are some tips/tricks? Good guides?

They chase you run, they run you chase.
Use spells wisely to assist your running and chasing.
pretty much it.

Your arrows are like blitz hooks, but people will rage harder if you miss.

Her arrow is like 3x wider than a blitz hook or varus ult though, it's hard to miss if you use it at all thoughtfully

She used to be considered a hypercarry at one point.
+ Show Spoiler +
inb4, no such thing as hypercarry in LoL
liftlift > tsm
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-27 06:44:25
November 27 2013 06:02 GMT
#1558
On November 27 2013 14:44 nosliw wrote:
Any ashe players on TL?
learning to play her because she is only 450 IP. What are some tips/tricks? Good guides?

I use to play a pretty mean Ashe, but late S2/early S3 killed any motivation to play her.

She's fairly straightforward in her playstyle (kite, attack-move/orbwalk [ok its not really orbwalking in LoL but still]), though she has a high skill cap to fully utilize, and requires good ADC play (aka positioning is key).

It depends on what specifically you're looking for, however. Ashe has a pretty good AA range over most ADCs which you can abuse for free auto pokes (Caitlyn beats her out, and Trist/Kog/Jinx will outscale her AA range as the game progresses), watch and manage your passive to maximize your poke potential, Ashe is hilariously good for level 1 cheese (AA-W-AA is like most of their health at level 1).

Also, hit your Rs.

Not much else to say unless you're looking for advanced matchup knowledge, lane synergies, and team comps to never pick her against (note: assashuns, and teams with copious amounts of non-MS based gapclosing).
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
November 27 2013 06:16 GMT
#1559
--- Nuked ---
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 27 2013 06:28 GMT
#1560
I think the knee-jerk nerf to Targon's was too much (I know its doing a lot more than Riot seems to want it to be doing on PBE) but the new only melee/ 60 second thing is a little to weak IMO.

Assist streaks are a little too much, really favors champs like Taric who hit R and get assists for every kill. If Riot bothered programming a proper assist calculator based off of CC/ buff/ damage, it would solve a lot of the complaints about assist gold/credit is allocated.

I stand by my assertion there is no point in playing "real" games right now, just play ARAM and All for One. Who knows, maybe even play Dominion.
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