EPT[Patch 3.14] PreSeason 4 General Discussion - Page 167
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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ghrur
United States3786 Posts
On December 07 2013 07:17 krndandaman wrote: lemonnation/sneaky botlane is bad. lemonnation more so. of course, relative to the team they are on. i've been watching c9 since qualifiers as quantic and I've slowly seen lemon and sneaky make more and more questionable plays. sneaky is not that bad and I think he can be salvageable if he meets the right support. lemonnation is just so bad I don't get his item choices, warding, and plays. I feel like he has gotten complacent. you won't get much better than sneaky out of the current NA pool of adc's so I think he should stay. But lemon needs to go if c9 wants to stay at the top. Sadly, I kind of agree with that. Lemon gets caught out a lot during their games, and was really greedy with their wards too. I also wonder about the strength of balls because balls's CS seems to be pretty bad at times. Especially with rumble, his most well-known champ. ._. | ||
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
On December 07 2013 07:17 krndandaman wrote: lemonnation/sneaky botlane is bad. lemonnation more so. of course, relative to the team they are on. i've been watching c9 since qualifiers as quantic and I've slowly seen lemon and sneaky make more and more questionable plays. sneaky is not that bad and I think he can be salvageable if he meets the right support. lemonnation is just so bad I don't get his item choices, warding, and plays. I feel like he has gotten complacent. you won't get much better than sneaky out of the current NA pool of adc's so I think he should stay. But lemon needs to go if c9 wants to stay at the top. If you get rid of lemon, you get rid of the whole C9 dynamic and everything he brings to the team outside of his strict support play. You'll end up with inferior pick/ban phase, lane rotations, and team synergy. Recently I saw sneaky dump on DL/aphro bot lane in solo queue 2-3x in a row, with DL on Jinx and Sivir (can't remember exactly how much jungle pressure there was). I agree that sneaky is a perfectly adequate ADC in the NA scene and lemon needs to personally improve his support play. Btw who is C9 HyperX Dora? Lemon's smurf or someone else? I've seen him support for sneaky on many occasions. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 07 2013 07:53 AsnSensation wrote: Ranked Queues disabled for ~ 7hours now on a friday evening GJ Riot *slowclap* They had better give a significant amount of RP for this -.- | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On December 07 2013 08:13 Shikyo wrote: They had better give a significant amount of RP for this -.- funny joke | ||
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Usagi
Spain1647 Posts
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On December 07 2013 03:47 xes wrote: All these questions about missing skillshots seems like you're just chucking out high risk low reward max range ones and then blaming it on the other guy moving funky. When you see the highlight reels where someone launches a skillshot where someone else is flashing to, most of the time it is because there are pretty much only 2 places where the person can go without just straight up dying to basic attacks. Like, Bischu's not going to complain playing in bronze that people move funky and he misses Nid Q because they'll just straight up die anyways. The information game in league (predicting movement, jungling) is still about making EV plays based on the information set you have and the exclusion set that you know. I hate it when people say "hit your skillshots." The majority of the time it's not a mechanical issue but a decision. I've seen so many Elises corner someone during a gank, and instead of running forward to hit them and then hitting a cocoon when they try to escape, they go for a max range cocoon and whiff and the gank is over. Ashes that go for global arrows instead of saving it for ganks in lane. Lee Sins that go for Sonic Waves when they can just run up and use Cripple. Prediction is flashy and cool-looking, but the majority of the skillshots that need to be hit are just being patient and getting in good position. Knowing about and improving positioning is what's important and something tangible you can point to. | ||
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
On December 07 2013 08:43 kainzero wrote: I hate it when people say "hit your skillshots." The majority of the time it's not a mechanical issue but a decision. I've seen so many Elises corner someone during a gank, and instead of running forward to hit them and then hitting a cocoon when they try to escape, they go for a max range cocoon and whiff and the gank is over. Ashes that go for global arrows instead of saving it for ganks in lane. Lee Sins that go for Sonic Waves when they can just run up and use Cripple. Prediction is flashy and cool-looking, but the majority of the skillshots that need to be hit are just being patient and getting in good position. Knowing about and improving positioning is what's important and something tangible you can point to. Have you ever landed a botlane-toplane Ashe ult? They are so fucking satisfying. I almost have to do the Sam Cassell dance right then. But yes of course if you can waddle up to someone it's easier to hit most projectiles (Not the Zyra passive though that has like a dail-up modem delay). | ||
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
On December 07 2013 07:21 ghrur wrote: Sadly, I kind of agree with that. Lemon gets caught out a lot during their games, and was really greedy with their wards too. I also wonder about the strength of balls because balls's CS seems to be pretty bad at times. Especially with rumble, his most well-known champ. ._. Balls is a really good player. And I can't say about his CS on other games because that's not something I look at normally (except for rumble). However, the reason his CS is so bad even on Rumble is because there is/are 1, maybe 2 players who can CS with him on a competitive level (PDD definitely can, Marin is supposed to be able to cause Rumble is his soloq main but flopped in OGN). Rumble is so weak because his farming is absolutely garbage, if you can ask any professional toplaner they will pretty much say the same thing about his farming. also http://esportsexpress.com/2013/12/logic-countered-1/ | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
LCS players can now stream w/e game they want just cannot accept sponsorship from other gaming companies. Seems like there have been instances where other companies contacted LCS players, offered them money of they promote their game to their fanbase. Sounds reasonable Riot. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On December 07 2013 09:10 Dusty wrote: also http://esportsexpress.com/2013/12/logic-countered-1/ Atrioc pls | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
I lol'd | ||
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On December 07 2013 09:37 Dusty wrote: oh wow I didn't even notice he made that LOL It's come full circle | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 07 2013 09:26 AsnSensation wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1sa59j/update_on_the_lcs_streaming_policy/ LCS players can now stream w/e game they want just cannot accept sponsorship from other gaming companies. Seems like there have been instances where other companies contacted LCS players, offered them money of they promote their game to their fanbase. Sounds reasonable Riot. Now see. If this was the original contract Riot wouldn't look so douchey. Glad to know atrioc can make awesome guides and comics. | ||
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