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[Patch 3.14] PreSeason 4 General Discussion - Page 168

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NotYango
Profile Joined December 2013
United States719 Posts
December 07 2013 00:42 GMT
#3341
Hwaseung House is back
yango pls
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
December 07 2013 00:43 GMT
#3342
On December 07 2013 09:37 Nos- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 09:37 Dusty wrote:
oh wow I didn't even notice he made that LOL

It's come full circle


explain plz im sleep deprived at the moment

+ Show Spoiler +
this kills the joke
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 07 2013 00:45 GMT
#3343
Just curious on others' opinion on this matter vs. my own, I can elaborate on my stance later if you like but I'd rather not until some votes come in.


Poll: Changes have _______ support skill disparity (within 1 game)

Muted (13)
 
52%

Amplified (6)
 
24%

not effected (6)
 
24%

25 total votes

Your vote: Changes have _______ support skill disparity (within 1 game)

(Vote): Muted
(Vote): Amplified
(Vote): not effected


Carrilord has arrived.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-07 01:01:45
December 07 2013 00:59 GMT
#3344
On December 07 2013 09:43 Dusty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 09:37 Nos- wrote:
On December 07 2013 09:37 Dusty wrote:
oh wow I didn't even notice he made that LOL

It's come full circle


explain plz im sleep deprived at the moment

+ Show Spoiler +
this kills the joke

Joke killing incoming

Atrioc made "Hwaseung House" comics back in the BW days, which starred Jaedong (one of the best zergs in BW ever) dealing with his team, Hwaseung Oz (which didn't really have much in the way of star players besides Jaedong and thus relied on Jaedong to carry them a lot of the time)

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=103495


Oz's supporting cast did get better after a while, but there was a period of time when it was really just "Okay, Jaedong can get us 2 wins out of the 5 matches (regular game + ace match), all we need to do is scrounge up 1 more win among the other 3 players ... we can do that, right?
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
December 07 2013 01:04 GMT
#3345
haha holy shit those comics look exactly like the CLG one
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
December 07 2013 01:07 GMT
#3346
God those were so good
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
December 07 2013 01:10 GMT
#3347
On December 07 2013 10:04 Dusty wrote:
haha holy shit those comics look exactly like the CLG one

thatsthejoke.gif

Is "Bisu build" one of the Hwaseung House comics? Because that one was probably my favorite
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Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
December 07 2013 01:11 GMT
#3348
On December 07 2013 10:10 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 10:04 Dusty wrote:
haha holy shit those comics look exactly like the CLG one

thatsthejoke.gif

Is "Bisu build" one of the Hwaseung House comics? Because that one was probably my favorite

Yes. A timeless literary classic.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 07 2013 01:13 GMT
#3349
Atrioc is probably the greatest ever at anything
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2396 Posts
December 07 2013 01:28 GMT
#3350
I drowned in sadness for so long once he stopped making Hwaseung House. That CLG one sorta made up for it ._.
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
December 07 2013 01:31 GMT
#3351
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
December 07 2013 01:35 GMT
#3352
On December 07 2013 09:10 Dusty wrote:
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On December 07 2013 07:21 ghrur wrote:
On December 07 2013 07:17 krndandaman wrote:
lemonnation/sneaky botlane is bad.
lemonnation more so. of course, relative to the team they are on.
i've been watching c9 since qualifiers as quantic and I've slowly seen lemon and sneaky make more and more questionable plays. sneaky is not that bad and I think he can be salvageable if he meets the right support. lemonnation is just so bad I don't get his item choices, warding, and plays. I feel like he has gotten complacent.

you won't get much better than sneaky out of the current NA pool of adc's so I think he should stay. But lemon needs to go if c9 wants to stay at the top.


Sadly, I kind of agree with that. Lemon gets caught out a lot during their games, and was really greedy with their wards too. I also wonder about the strength of balls because balls's CS seems to be pretty bad at times. Especially with rumble, his most well-known champ. ._.


Balls is a really good player. And I can't say about his CS on other games because that's not something I look at normally (except for rumble). However, the reason his CS is so bad even on Rumble is because there is/are 1, maybe 2 players who can CS with him on a competitive level (PDD definitely can, Marin is supposed to be able to cause Rumble is his soloq main but flopped in OGN). Rumble is so weak because his farming is absolutely garbage, if you can ask any professional toplaner they will pretty much say the same thing about his farming.

also http://esportsexpress.com/2013/12/logic-countered-1/


Agreed, Balls is a solid player, he might rely on AP champs a bit too much but he's definitely not the weakest point of C9.

Lemon would be better suited as a coach than a player, and I'll reserve judgement on Sneaky until he plays with a competent support, but he would be next on the chopping block after Lemon.
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
December 07 2013 01:45 GMT
#3353
Omg Atrioc made Hwaesung house?

I love him x1000
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 07 2013 01:56 GMT
#3354
On December 07 2013 10:35 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 09:10 Dusty wrote:
On December 07 2013 07:21 ghrur wrote:
On December 07 2013 07:17 krndandaman wrote:
lemonnation/sneaky botlane is bad.
lemonnation more so. of course, relative to the team they are on.
i've been watching c9 since qualifiers as quantic and I've slowly seen lemon and sneaky make more and more questionable plays. sneaky is not that bad and I think he can be salvageable if he meets the right support. lemonnation is just so bad I don't get his item choices, warding, and plays. I feel like he has gotten complacent.

you won't get much better than sneaky out of the current NA pool of adc's so I think he should stay. But lemon needs to go if c9 wants to stay at the top.


Sadly, I kind of agree with that. Lemon gets caught out a lot during their games, and was really greedy with their wards too. I also wonder about the strength of balls because balls's CS seems to be pretty bad at times. Especially with rumble, his most well-known champ. ._.


Balls is a really good player. And I can't say about his CS on other games because that's not something I look at normally (except for rumble). However, the reason his CS is so bad even on Rumble is because there is/are 1, maybe 2 players who can CS with him on a competitive level (PDD definitely can, Marin is supposed to be able to cause Rumble is his soloq main but flopped in OGN). Rumble is so weak because his farming is absolutely garbage, if you can ask any professional toplaner they will pretty much say the same thing about his farming.

also http://esportsexpress.com/2013/12/logic-countered-1/


Agreed, Balls is a solid player, he might rely on AP champs a bit too much but he's definitely not the weakest point of C9.

Lemon would be better suited as a coach than a player, and I'll reserve judgement on Sneaky until he plays with a competent support, but he would be next on the chopping block after Lemon.


I dont think Balls relies on AP champs too much, if anything C9 relies on toplane AP too much as a whole. Balls picks Rumble/Vlad though because they abuse NA's weaknesses with that.
Freeeeeeedom
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
December 07 2013 02:26 GMT
#3355
Oh mah God.

Cass late game so good.

o.o
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-07 02:31:33
December 07 2013 02:28 GMT
#3356
Looking at my ranked stats: 500 games. Most played Zed 50 games the rest are sub 30 games.

Liking new jungle Mundo, Shyv, Elise, Lee and Eve are all strong this patch all of which i can actually play.
My bot lane support is going so well now that people that suck at supporting get caught in 60% of my thresh hooks.
My ADC pool is shit right now just playing Ez, Cait and Ashe and AFK lane and hope i win.
Playing Ahri mid is also amazingly easy to win for whatever reason 17/5 on her.



If you play sup/ad/botlane 3v3 try Taric/Fiora/Kayle its fun as hell.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
December 07 2013 02:52 GMT
#3357
noobs dont even know about dis hwaseung hauz

on an equally hipstar note yango showed me some games of LGD (chinese progame organization, super powerhouse in dota) in which they knocked out PE to qualify for G-league. given that they are also currently qualified for LPL, i think that they have a good opportunity to reach the top of china if their players continue to develop well. they have a really good read on the game and decent execution, which is bound to get better over time.
Hey! Listen!
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 07 2013 02:57 GMT
#3358
Does anyone else read that website name as esport sex press?
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
December 07 2013 03:08 GMT
#3359
On December 07 2013 11:57 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Does anyone else read that website name as esport sex press?

There's a high degree of difficulty involved but yes I managed to avoid the pitfalls of that url. I teach though, so the self-censorship muscles are always on high alert.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
December 07 2013 03:25 GMT
#3360
On December 07 2013 11:57 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Does anyone else read that website name as esport sex press?

thatsthejoke.gif

I mean the logo is ESEX

I'm waiting for the next Jaedong/Locodoco joint interview to be posted there
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