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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 30 2013 20:35 GMT
#2061
I've seen support Taric take out a 6 item Vayne before. It's true terror.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
November 30 2013 20:49 GMT
#2062
I already used jungle Gragas in start of S3. He's super tanky, got great clear speed and very good scaling for a jungler.
#hipster
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 21:30:35
November 30 2013 20:53 GMT
#2063
What's the runes/masteries ? I'd try it as well, i suck with Gragas mid.

Edit; Thanks Jek
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
November 30 2013 21:10 GMT
#2064
CJ Entus is actually posting really nice things to their facebook, especially if you follow their players in both LoL and SC2.

[image loading]

Possibly the only KeSPA team that actually updates their facebook with everything important, and team related fluff (like pictures from the road)?
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 21:21:46
November 30 2013 21:20 GMT
#2065
On December 01 2013 05:53 -Zoda- wrote:
What's the runes/masteries ? I'd try it as well, i suck with Gragas mid.

Hybrid reds, armor yellow, flat MR and quints depends on what I'm against in jungle; S4 changes to support made a lot of my old support pages feel obsolete, so why not? :-P
- But AP quints works fine for general usage.
- Hybrid reds are really, really, really good for him in jungle.

Regarding masteries, I can't figure out what the optimal picks are. I do like the MS and mana/health regen in utility tho.

E or W at first level both works, I usually max Q first. It feels strongest overall, but I haven't played him much after the change to Body Slam.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 21:28:03
November 30 2013 21:21 GMT
#2066
On December 01 2013 03:57 AsnSensation wrote:
Jungle Gragas the new Op or some shit? I see a lot of people talking about it ingame and apparently oddone has been spamming it. Only Because bodyslam deals equal dmg to all targets hit now?


Because Bodyslam deals about 150 damage on rank one, level one. I don't believe there is any ability in the game that deals that much damage on level one. And all of it aoe. With a... what, four second cooldown?

I have runes and masteries from OddOne, too lazy to printscreen: http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/22179814#masteries
Masteries page six, runes page five.

E, W, Q -> R > Q > W > E

Much more importantly: How do I play Terror Taric? Runes Masteries Items Skills?
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 21:42:26
November 30 2013 21:41 GMT
#2067
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
November 30 2013 21:43 GMT
#2068
On December 01 2013 06:21 Celial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 03:57 AsnSensation wrote:
Jungle Gragas the new Op or some shit? I see a lot of people talking about it ingame and apparently oddone has been spamming it. Only Because bodyslam deals equal dmg to all targets hit now?


Because Bodyslam deals about 150 damage on rank one, level one. I don't believe there is any ability in the game that deals that much damage on level one. And all of it aoe. With a... what, four second cooldown?

I have runes and masteries from OddOne, too lazy to printscreen: http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/22179814#masteries
Masteries page six, runes page five.

E, W, Q -> R > Q > W > E

Much more importantly: How do I play Terror Taric? Runes Masteries Items Skills?

If you got a lot of CDR early on, eg 15% from runes and masteries, Gragas would have a (1-.15)*12=10.2 second cooldown E, reduced by half to 5.1 seconds. It's not that low and he should go oom spamming spells.

I'm surprised the fat man can jungle at all tbh. How does he gank though? I don't think he'll clear that well building AP since golems, wight, and buff camps require some sustained damage and he's got mana costs so he better have good ganks. Pre 6 I doubt he can do much unless he bypasses a ward and gets close enough to the enemy to chain E's together. Post 6, displacements definitely are great for ganks (alistar ganks) if he can avoid wards or lane ganks. And then I feel like he'd scale decently well into late game with his ult being a safe and very powerful disruption spell that can force engages even at the pro level.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
November 30 2013 21:52 GMT
#2069
Yeah if I can't hog all dem bluez mana becomes an issue. W too good though, damage intake is never a problem, damage output (autoattacks) neither. Just slows down if you can't slam through walls into camps and instaclear small monsters with barrel. I play Bronze, so ganks are no problem. Q them, they try to escape, bodyslam for the slow.
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 30 2013 21:54 GMT
#2070
30 AD from W level 1 at nearly all times is pretty good for clearing, he doesn't need to spam as much as you'd think as long as he can clear the little monsters.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 22:00:56
November 30 2013 22:00 GMT
#2071
On December 01 2013 06:43 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 06:21 Celial wrote:
On December 01 2013 03:57 AsnSensation wrote:
Jungle Gragas the new Op or some shit? I see a lot of people talking about it ingame and apparently oddone has been spamming it. Only Because bodyslam deals equal dmg to all targets hit now?


Because Bodyslam deals about 150 damage on rank one, level one. I don't believe there is any ability in the game that deals that much damage on level one. And all of it aoe. With a... what, four second cooldown?

I have runes and masteries from OddOne, too lazy to printscreen: http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/22179814#masteries
Masteries page six, runes page five.

E, W, Q -> R > Q > W > E

Much more importantly: How do I play Terror Taric? Runes Masteries Items Skills?

If you got a lot of CDR early on, eg 15% from runes and masteries, Gragas would have a (1-.15)*12=10.2 second cooldown E, reduced by half to 5.1 seconds. It's not that low and he should go oom spamming spells.

I'm surprised the fat man can jungle at all tbh. How does he gank though? I don't think he'll clear that well building AP since golems, wight, and buff camps require some sustained damage and he's got mana costs so he better have good ganks. Pre 6 I doubt he can do much unless he bypasses a ward and gets close enough to the enemy to chain E's together. Post 6, displacements definitely are great for ganks (alistar ganks) if he can avoid wards or lane ganks. And then I feel like he'd scale decently well into late game with his ult being a safe and very powerful disruption spell that can force engages even at the pro level.

What do you mean how he ganks? His body slam has the same range as Vi's Vault Breaker.

He clears jungle like other AP clearing jungle, which is a little slower than AD jungler since you don't get AD mastery/rune, but he clears it fine. His innate and W gives decent sustain. Once he get Spectre Wraith, he basically walk in and walk out of the jungle with full hp/mana.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 30 2013 23:11 GMT
#2072
The second biggest non tournament streamer on twitch after the oddone is some girl who's obviously trolling all of her 15K! viewers and she afks ingame most of the time what the actual fuck???

I don't get people who even donate to these attentionwhores with their oversized webcams.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
November 30 2013 23:15 GMT
#2073
On December 01 2013 08:11 AsnSensation wrote:
The second biggest non tournament streamer on twitch after the oddone is some girl who's obviously trolling all of her 15K! viewers and she afks ingame most of the time what the actual fuck???

I don't get people who even donate to these attentionwhores with their oversized webcams.

Ugh, I know.

Why the fuck can't we have more shirtless men streaming, whyyyyyy.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 30 2013 23:20 GMT
#2074
In S3 there were two ways to play Jungle Gragas. You could carry jungle and build AP, or support jungle and build tanky. The latter was my primary interest when I brought it up. The key was that by maxing W you weren't reliant on blue buff and had fairly decent clear speed through autos and the extra damage on W (it has an AD ratio), and was actually extremely resistant to early counter-jungling due to the power of free AD.

I haven't had much opportunity to jungle in S4 yet beyond early PBE testing, but I'd assume most people picking jungle Gragas now would prefer the AP route.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 23:32:25
November 30 2013 23:30 GMT
#2075
On December 01 2013 08:11 AsnSensation wrote:
The second biggest non tournament streamer on twitch after the oddone is some girl who's obviously trolling all of her 15K! viewers and she afks ingame most of the time what the actual fuck???

I don't get people who even donate to these attentionwhores with their oversized webcams.


they had some swedish chat show like a week ago or something and they discussed e-whores and brought that girl up ;D maddelisk was a guest.

On December 01 2013 08:15 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 08:11 AsnSensation wrote:
The second biggest non tournament streamer on twitch after the oddone is some girl who's obviously trolling all of her 15K! viewers and she afks ingame most of the time what the actual fuck???

I don't get people who even donate to these attentionwhores with their oversized webcams.

Ugh, I know.

Why the fuck can't we have more shirtless men streaming, whyyyyyy.


in the full version of that cringey hyperX advert with ocelote after they perv on sjokz they cut to ocelote checking out his "naked" team mates, so the sexy lol material is out there if you thats what you want to see.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
November 30 2013 23:36 GMT
#2076
Here we are, another match of LCS qualifier decided by DDOS lol. Poor Quantic
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
November 30 2013 23:43 GMT
#2077
On December 01 2013 08:36 Lylat wrote:
Here we are, another match of LCS qualifier decided by DDOS lol. Poor Quantic


These Wellplayed qualifiers have basically been a disaster from day 1.

People aren't going to care because it's Quantic and they aren't exactly well liked (plus they failed to qualify on their first attempt), but this has been a shoddy qualifier in both EU and NA
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 23:48:01
November 30 2013 23:43 GMT
#2078
On December 01 2013 08:30 turdburgler wrote:
in the full version of that cringey hyperX advert with ocelote after they perv on sjokz they cut to ocelote checking out his "naked" team mates, so the sexy lol material is out there if you thats what you want to see.

Been there, done that. Was on the r/lolgaymers subreddit months ago. ;P (Edit: no wait, that was the ocelote gym picture, still saw it though).

The random Arthelon x Laute slash fic (requested by Nydus) was most amusing.

On December 01 2013 08:43 Amethyst21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 08:36 Lylat wrote:
Here we are, another match of LCS qualifier decided by DDOS lol. Poor Quantic

People aren't going to care because it's Quantic and they aren't exactly well liked (plus they failed to qualify on their first attempt), but this has been a shoddy qualifier in both EU and NA

The quality of the qualifier is definitely shaky. The NACL has been a significantly better viewing experience, and not just because you can make salty jokes.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 30 2013 23:44 GMT
#2079
wow did quantic just forfeit game 1 of their bo3 which decides if they can attend the last lcs qualifier?

I can see ves/eg actually beating lolpro really easily.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
November 30 2013 23:45 GMT
#2080
On December 01 2013 06:21 Celial wrote:
Much more importantly: How do I play Terror Taric? Runes Masteries Items Skills?


I've been having some success building coin into sightstone into IBG into either randuins or SV depending on the enemy teamcomp. Throw in Shurelia's somewhere in there for hilarious taric stun engages.

In a 1v1 fight I tend to go E > AA > R > AA > W > AA > Q self > AA > repeat with any skills you can. In teamfights you just sit in the middle and hit any skill that comes off cooldown immediately, while weaving autoattacks in between. You should in theory have somewhere in the realm of 200-250 armor and 2.5k health or more, and unless the enemy AP is fed you can pretty much guarantee you aren't going down very easy, and your sustained damage over fights is completely unexpected coming from Taric.
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