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UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
November 30 2013 23:45 GMT
#2081
On December 01 2013 08:36 Lylat wrote:
Here we are, another match of LCS qualifier decided by DDOS lol. Poor Quantic

Isn't this their last chance?
LoL: UnKooL and SoloQFiendUnKooL, SC2: UnKooL
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
November 30 2013 23:46 GMT
#2082
On December 01 2013 08:44 AsnSensation wrote:
wow did quantic just forfeit game 1 of their bo3 which decides if they can attend the last lcs qualifier?

I can see ves/eg actually beating lolpro really easily.

Quantic's fairly confident in their ability to win, I'd say. If LoLPro qualifies for the challenger promo spot, expecting them to lose against CoL/TBD/Crs Academy, first, imo.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
November 30 2013 23:48 GMT
#2083
Wait, so if Quantic loses this Bo3, that's it for them, right? Or do they get one more shot?
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Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 23:49:20
November 30 2013 23:49 GMT
#2084
Challenger scene such a joke, ddos every game. Quantic easily the best team in challenger right now imo and It will be a shame if they don't make it to the promo tourney

On December 01 2013 08:48 BrownBear wrote:
Wait, so if Quantic loses this Bo3, that's it for them, right? Or do they get one more shot?


this is their last shot
Best Trashcan NA - LoL Summoner. SKT / CLG / Liquid
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 30 2013 23:49 GMT
#2085
On December 01 2013 08:46 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 08:44 AsnSensation wrote:
wow did quantic just forfeit game 1 of their bo3 which decides if they can attend the last lcs qualifier?

I can see ves/eg actually beating lolpro really easily.

Quantic's fairly confident in their ability to win, I'd say. If LoLPro qualifies for the challenger promo spot, expecting them to lose against CoL/TBD/Crs Academy, first, imo.


forgot that there is a mini challenger tournament before they actually face the "lcs dropouts"

so apparently quantic were forced to forfeit although they were obviously getting ddosed, what the flying fuck?
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
November 30 2013 23:51 GMT
#2086
On December 01 2013 08:49 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 08:46 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 01 2013 08:44 AsnSensation wrote:
wow did quantic just forfeit game 1 of their bo3 which decides if they can attend the last lcs qualifier?

I can see ves/eg actually beating lolpro really easily.

Quantic's fairly confident in their ability to win, I'd say. If LoLPro qualifies for the challenger promo spot, expecting them to lose against CoL/TBD/Crs Academy, first, imo.


forgot that there is a mini challenger tournament before they actually face the "lcs dropouts"

so apparently quantic were forced to forfeit although they were obviously getting ddosed, what the flying fuck?


Welcome to the NA and EU qualifiers, where DDOS's are more common than games being played!

Whoever invented the 'teams only have 10 minutes of pause time' should probably be fired, or at least publicly ridiculed.
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
November 30 2013 23:51 GMT
#2087
Reminds me of back in the day when someone dc but there was no pause so they just continued playing lol.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
November 30 2013 23:53 GMT
#2088
On December 01 2013 08:51 nafta wrote:
Reminds me of back in the day when someone dc but there was no pause so they just continued playing lol.

Vman7 with his Colorado internet, back right after the Ryze rework when everyone said he sucked. And Vman7 built Manamune on him. hail
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 23:56:03
November 30 2013 23:54 GMT
#2089
On December 01 2013 08:51 nafta wrote:
Reminds me of back in the day when someone dc but there was no pause so they just continued playing lol.


Quantic clearly should have kept playing 4v5 (Gunza reconnected a few minutes later) but what is being communicated to me is that the admins did not tell Quantic that their 10 minutes were actually up, so when they passed the '10 minute' mark they were immediately disqualified, even though Quantic wanted to keep playing.

Why there is a 30 minute pause timer ON THE TOURNAMENT REALM is another silly thing.
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 30 2013 23:55 GMT
#2090
I admit that I haven't watched anything of challenger scene the last month, but the simple fact that wombat himself was ddosed is hilarious.

Whether it's Riot or Wellplayed's rules to only give people 10min of pausetime, it's retarded. Not only can't you protect yourself completely against ddos but afaik tournament rules even force people to use skype haha.

I was only watching it on mute next to dreamhack but after the dragonfight all 5 seemed to have a fine connection but they were only dq'd because they paused longer than 10min right?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 23:58:53
November 30 2013 23:56 GMT
#2091
On December 01 2013 08:51 Amethyst21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 08:49 AsnSensation wrote:
On December 01 2013 08:46 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 01 2013 08:44 AsnSensation wrote:
wow did quantic just forfeit game 1 of their bo3 which decides if they can attend the last lcs qualifier?

I can see ves/eg actually beating lolpro really easily.

Quantic's fairly confident in their ability to win, I'd say. If LoLPro qualifies for the challenger promo spot, expecting them to lose against CoL/TBD/Crs Academy, first, imo.


forgot that there is a mini challenger tournament before they actually face the "lcs dropouts"

so apparently quantic were forced to forfeit although they were obviously getting ddosed, what the flying fuck?


Welcome to the NA and EU qualifiers, where DDOS's are more common than games being played!

Whoever invented the 'teams only have 10 minutes of pause time' should probably be fired, or at least publicly ridiculed.


Wait what who on earth would put that kind of a rule in. Normally it's number of pauses and not actual pause time that's limited.

Oh god what why the hell would the tournament rules determine what voip the players can use. Forcing skype seems completely and utterly retarded. Also DQing a team without telling them they have to unpause is even more pathetic. These people should never be allowed to host a tournament again.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
November 30 2013 23:58 GMT
#2092
On December 01 2013 08:49 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 08:46 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 01 2013 08:44 AsnSensation wrote:
wow did quantic just forfeit game 1 of their bo3 which decides if they can attend the last lcs qualifier?

I can see ves/eg actually beating lolpro really easily.

Quantic's fairly confident in their ability to win, I'd say. If LoLPro qualifies for the challenger promo spot, expecting them to lose against CoL/TBD/Crs Academy, first, imo.


forgot that there is a mini challenger tournament before they actually face the "lcs dropouts"

so apparently quantic were forced to forfeit although they were obviously getting ddosed, what the flying fuck?


I don't know why they didn't just decide to cast from replay to protect the integrity of the tournament after this first time this happened. It's getting pretty ridiculous.
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
December 01 2013 00:31 GMT
#2093
Lol stomped
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
December 01 2013 00:31 GMT
#2094
Team lolpro too pro.
Win even when losing.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 01 2013 00:46 GMT
#2095
On December 01 2013 08:51 nafta wrote:
Reminds me of back in the day when someone dc but there was no pause so they just continued playing lol.


like how the s1 championship was won in a 4v5 game
Carrilord has arrived.
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
December 01 2013 00:51 GMT
#2096
Assuming the disconnects are DDOS related, it blows my mind that teams still haven't taken measures to hide their IP. It's 100% possible if you just give a shit. Are teams just ignoring the problem and hoping it goes away? Jesus.
:3
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-01 00:55:22
December 01 2013 00:52 GMT
#2097
On December 01 2013 08:56 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 08:51 Amethyst21 wrote:
On December 01 2013 08:49 AsnSensation wrote:
On December 01 2013 08:46 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On December 01 2013 08:44 AsnSensation wrote:
wow did quantic just forfeit game 1 of their bo3 which decides if they can attend the last lcs qualifier?

I can see ves/eg actually beating lolpro really easily.

Quantic's fairly confident in their ability to win, I'd say. If LoLPro qualifies for the challenger promo spot, expecting them to lose against CoL/TBD/Crs Academy, first, imo.


forgot that there is a mini challenger tournament before they actually face the "lcs dropouts"

so apparently quantic were forced to forfeit although they were obviously getting ddosed, what the flying fuck?


Welcome to the NA and EU qualifiers, where DDOS's are more common than games being played!

Whoever invented the 'teams only have 10 minutes of pause time' should probably be fired, or at least publicly ridiculed.


Wait what who on earth would put that kind of a rule in. Normally it's number of pauses and not actual pause time that's limited.

Oh god what why the hell would the tournament rules determine what voip the players can use. Forcing skype seems completely and utterly retarded. Also DQing a team without telling them they have to unpause is even more pathetic. These people should never be allowed to host a tournament again.

Honestly, the only X minute of pause time isn't a bad rule. It holds teams to a professional standard in the sense that it prevents players from going afk in the middle of a game for whatever reason. It's important for live casted games in that the rule prevents players from holding up the cast, which is a very important objective for tournament organizers. The rule also helps to prevent disingenuous teams from faking a lag/dc issue and forcing a rematch.

What is absolutely ridiculous is the fact that tourneys force players to use specific voip players can use, especially if said program is Skype, which has had a long history of leaking IPs and causing DDOS. It's also completely ridiculous that the tournament didn't just choose to cast from a replay or just not cast the game at all instead of forcing a forfeit due to script kiddies running a DDOS program, especially considering this game is of extreme importance to Quantics' member's ability to make a living.
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
December 01 2013 01:03 GMT
#2098
I doubt they'd be allowed to use an unofficial replay system to cast the games after-the-fact, since this is a riot-sponsored tournament and all.

The real question is, if they're playing on the tournament realm-- why not just enable official replays there? They've got them working on PBE pretty well from what I understand, so just move 'em over to the tournament server and let the casters cast from that if necessary.

Casting from replays sucks, though. I understand why they'd want to avoid it.
:3
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
December 01 2013 01:11 GMT
#2099
I'd be super happy if they just released the replays to the public, but it would facilitate other teams studying on them a bit too much.
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
December 01 2013 01:13 GMT
#2100
Fortunately, looks like Quantic recovered to happily stomp out LoLPro 2-1, so the point is moot, Grats QTC for qualifying for LCS... qualifiers!
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