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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 06 2013 05:02 GMT
#1921
On November 06 2013 13:50 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 13:41 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On November 06 2013 13:38 FinestHour wrote:
also playboy bunny skin increases playrate by a ton

I'm a classy gent and use my Championship Riven skin hue

I have them all and cycle through, including classic.

Did you go to Worlds?
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
November 06 2013 05:08 GMT
#1922
if you use the amex card you get charged 2.95 per purchase? real.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 06 2013 05:18 GMT
#1923
On November 06 2013 14:08 UniversalSnip wrote:
if you use the amex card you get charged 2.95 per purchase? real.


I have not had this issue.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 05:22:28
November 06 2013 05:19 GMT
#1924
On November 06 2013 11:35 Redox wrote:
I fear all the hype might make Bjergsen arrogant and maybe even complacent. Anyway, here is the play he just did that will be another reddit hit:


Level 16 8-0-5 vs level 10 + level 7 then a few more join later which he escapes from. I think even I could possibly do that. At least kill 3 like him... dunno about the escape part.
EDIT
On November 06 2013 14:08 UniversalSnip wrote:
if you use the amex card you get charged 2.95 per purchase? real.

I think if you buy the serve card from a retail location (ie: not through riots deal) they charge you $2.95 to actually get the card. That is my interpretation at least...
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
November 06 2013 05:26 GMT
#1925
On November 06 2013 13:55 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 13:26 layabout wrote:
actually somethings not right:
Philosher’s Stone will cost 850 chalice 880 which is 1730 total, but crucible is 1600.


Crucible doesn't build out of Philo in S4. It's Chalice + Faerie Charm iirc.

Actually I think it's just chalice. Chalice + gold -> crucible

The other notable thing is ohmwrecker not building out of a philo stone anymore and costing only 2000g.

philo stone only builds into shurelya's now i think. they said they wanted to limit 1 gold generation item per champ (ugh), and also to keep the gold generation passive on the upgraded items. It would be awkward to have a large number of items that generated gold, so philo stone was taken out of many build paths. (does elisa's miracle still even exist?)
The nice side effect is that ohmwrecker and crucible are turning more into the slot-inefficient support items we've been wanting since forever thanks to this.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 06 2013 05:27 GMT
#1926
On November 06 2013 14:26 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 13:55 Seuss wrote:
On November 06 2013 13:26 layabout wrote:
actually somethings not right:
Philosher’s Stone will cost 850 chalice 880 which is 1730 total, but crucible is 1600.


Crucible doesn't build out of Philo in S4. It's Chalice + Faerie Charm iirc.

Actually I think it's just chalice. Chalice + gold -> crucible

The other notable thing is ohmwrecker not building out of a philo stone anymore and costing only 2000g.

philo stone only builds into shurelya's now i think. they said they wanted to limit 1 gold generation item per champ (ugh), and also to keep the gold generation passive on the upgraded items. It would be awkward to have a large number of items that generated gold, so philo stone was taken out of many build paths. (does elisa's miracle still even exist?)
The nice side effect is that ohmwrecker and crucible are turning more into the slot-inefficient support items we've been wanting since forever thanks to this.


This seems to indicate that Riot is choosing some bizzaro middle road?
Freeeeeeedom
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
November 06 2013 05:46 GMT
#1927
elisa's miracle not only still exists but it got nerfed. No longer reduces summoner's cooldown's. Because.. you know, it was such a strong item...

did anyone ever give it a chance? I suppose it just delays your build, it may give you sustain but why bother when you could instead just buy a sustain item that also gives you combat stats like any of the jungle items.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 06 2013 06:05 GMT
#1928
On November 06 2013 14:19 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 11:35 Redox wrote:
I fear all the hype might make Bjergsen arrogant and maybe even complacent. Anyway, here is the play he just did that will be another reddit hit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0tU9HI8gj8&feature=youtu.be

Level 16 8-0-5 vs level 10 + level 7 then a few more join later which he escapes from. I think even I could possibly do that. At least kill 3 like him... dunno about the escape part.
EDIT
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 14:08 UniversalSnip wrote:
if you use the amex card you get charged 2.95 per purchase? real.

I think if you buy the serve card from a retail location (ie: not through riots deal) they charge you $2.95 to actually get the card. That is my interpretation at least...

So your saying you're good enough to go 8-0-5 and get 6 level advantage in diamond 1 games and then abuse it? It's noy just about the play, it has a ton to do with how he got to that spot
liftlift > tsm
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
November 06 2013 06:11 GMT
#1929
On November 06 2013 14:18 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 14:08 UniversalSnip wrote:
if you use the amex card you get charged 2.95 per purchase? real.


I have not had this issue.

https://www.serve.com/help/?intlink=us-serve-partner-gaming-riot-microsite-FAQ-201307#/fees-and-limits-0

No indication of what the "select retailer" list is.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 06 2013 06:12 GMT
#1930
Shelke just experienced the hell of my ranked games. I'm so sorry to do that to you man.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
November 06 2013 06:24 GMT
#1931
On November 06 2013 15:05 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 14:19 TheRabidDeer wrote:
On November 06 2013 11:35 Redox wrote:
I fear all the hype might make Bjergsen arrogant and maybe even complacent. Anyway, here is the play he just did that will be another reddit hit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0tU9HI8gj8&feature=youtu.be

Level 16 8-0-5 vs level 10 + level 7 then a few more join later which he escapes from. I think even I could possibly do that. At least kill 3 like him... dunno about the escape part.
EDIT
On November 06 2013 14:08 UniversalSnip wrote:
if you use the amex card you get charged 2.95 per purchase? real.

I think if you buy the serve card from a retail location (ie: not through riots deal) they charge you $2.95 to actually get the card. That is my interpretation at least...

So your saying you're good enough to go 8-0-5 and get 6 level advantage in diamond 1 games and then abuse it? It's noy just about the play, it has a ton to do with how he got to that spot

Pretty sure I said I could've done "that", which implies given the situation of being 8-0-5 and up 6 levels I could do the same thing. I imagine anybody could see the absurdity of saying "I can go 8-0-5 and be up 6 levels in a diamond 1 game", so really your response is.... strange.

When shown a highlight clip of something it is supposed to be amazing skill, not a clip that shows the final results of amazing skill. But maybe I am not used to skill clips of LoL and instead used to those of SC2/bw/CS/quake/other genres.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 06:49:05
November 06 2013 06:48 GMT
#1932
On November 06 2013 15:11 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 14:18 Seuss wrote:
On November 06 2013 14:08 UniversalSnip wrote:
if you use the amex card you get charged 2.95 per purchase? real.


I have not had this issue.

https://www.serve.com/help/?intlink=us-serve-partner-gaming-riot-microsite-FAQ-201307#/fees-and-limits-0

No indication of what the "select retailer" list is.

That fee is for purchasing the actual card, not for purchases you make with the card. Generally speaking, if it's talking about purchases you make with a card, it'll refer to them as transactions.
The only relevant fee you have to worry about is the monthly fee if you don't live in NY, TX, or VT, but you can get around that by direct depositing once a month onto your AMex card.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
November 06 2013 06:54 GMT
#1933
neato. thanks.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 06 2013 07:03 GMT
#1934
On November 06 2013 14:26 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 13:55 Seuss wrote:
On November 06 2013 13:26 layabout wrote:
actually somethings not right:
Philosher’s Stone will cost 850 chalice 880 which is 1730 total, but crucible is 1600.


Crucible doesn't build out of Philo in S4. It's Chalice + Faerie Charm iirc.

Actually I think it's just chalice. Chalice + gold -> crucible

The other notable thing is ohmwrecker not building out of a philo stone anymore and costing only 2000g.

philo stone only builds into shurelya's now i think. they said they wanted to limit 1 gold generation item per champ (ugh), and also to keep the gold generation passive on the upgraded items. It would be awkward to have a large number of items that generated gold, so philo stone was taken out of many build paths. (does elisa's miracle still even exist?)
The nice side effect is that ohmwrecker and crucible are turning more into the slot-inefficient support items we've been wanting since forever thanks to this.


You're right, I was thinking of Shurelya's (Philo + Charm).
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
November 06 2013 07:06 GMT
#1935
If anyone misses the old sidebars with one section per game, you can change them back in the "site settings" in the upper left corner.

On the topic of the amex card, I really wish Riot would get us europeans a deal like that
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
November 06 2013 07:50 GMT
#1936
On November 06 2013 13:29 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 13:24 Ryuu314 wrote:
On November 06 2013 13:08 UnKooL wrote:
Is it worth picking up Riven, or will she get nerfed soon because I think it's inevitable...

I see this all the time. Why do people think Riven will get nerfed? She's a strong champion but nowhere near overpowered.

Because she's pretty fotm in high elo soloque, where Riven can shine because she depends on player knowledge more than a lot of champions.

Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 12:03 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
riven is such a dumb champ
ad scaling shield
ok

Fun activity: Look at the champion roster and count how many have an AP scaling shield. Then shut up.


i think i may have touched a nerve, strangely aggressive post, but ok
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
November 06 2013 08:03 GMT
#1937
I don't understand this system. When I go like 12-3, I'm gaining 6 LP per win. Then I lose a few, and get +23 for my next win? What?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
November 06 2013 08:10 GMT
#1938
On November 06 2013 16:50 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 13:29 Gahlo wrote:
On November 06 2013 13:24 Ryuu314 wrote:
On November 06 2013 13:08 UnKooL wrote:
Is it worth picking up Riven, or will she get nerfed soon because I think it's inevitable...

I see this all the time. Why do people think Riven will get nerfed? She's a strong champion but nowhere near overpowered.

Because she's pretty fotm in high elo soloque, where Riven can shine because she depends on player knowledge more than a lot of champions.

On November 06 2013 12:03 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
riven is such a dumb champ
ad scaling shield
ok

Fun activity: Look at the champion roster and count how many have an AP scaling shield. Then shut up.


i think i may have touched a nerve, strangely aggressive post, but ok


to be fair what u said was pretty derp
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
November 06 2013 08:37 GMT
#1939
On November 06 2013 17:10 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 16:50 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On November 06 2013 13:29 Gahlo wrote:
On November 06 2013 13:24 Ryuu314 wrote:
On November 06 2013 13:08 UnKooL wrote:
Is it worth picking up Riven, or will she get nerfed soon because I think it's inevitable...

I see this all the time. Why do people think Riven will get nerfed? She's a strong champion but nowhere near overpowered.

Because she's pretty fotm in high elo soloque, where Riven can shine because she depends on player knowledge more than a lot of champions.

On November 06 2013 12:03 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
riven is such a dumb champ
ad scaling shield
ok

Fun activity: Look at the champion roster and count how many have an AP scaling shield. Then shut up.


i think i may have touched a nerve, strangely aggressive post, but ok


to be fair what u said was pretty derp


true, i might be letting the shitposting in this thread corrupt me
i formally apologize
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
November 06 2013 10:06 GMT
#1940
so korea gaming = drugs now? thats stupid
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