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[Patch 3.13] Heimer Rework General Discussion - Page 95

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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 06 2013 02:45 GMT
#1881
he didn't even kill 2 of them wtf
Carrilord has arrived.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 03:03:07
November 06 2013 02:58 GMT
#1882
These changes are hitting the PBE now and will be live next week after the end of Season 3:
Clarity of progression is a major point of feedback we wanted to act on, so we’re removing clamping completely for anyone below Diamond I
Players should no longer see tiny LP gains except in extreme edge cases or at the top of Diamond I. The small LP gains are necessary in Diamond I to ensure Challenger represents only the very best players and is highly accurate.


whats the point if the season ends in a week, is there more stuff to do with ranked after s3 ends? or just they taking out clamping from ranked starting s4
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
November 06 2013 02:59 GMT
#1883
@dscarra
Challenger tier size increased to 200 in solo / duo Wow. Interesting change
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
November 06 2013 03:03 GMT
#1884
riven is such a dumb champ
ad scaling shield
ok
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 06 2013 03:05 GMT
#1885
On November 06 2013 12:03 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
riven is such a dumb champ
ad scaling shield
ok


fox news of champions
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 03:07:45
November 06 2013 03:06 GMT
#1886
God damn, the anti-Bjergsen talk is really bumming me out. I've liked him for so long and was already not super happy with him going to TSM so seeing all the negative sentiment just makes it worse. I agree TSM fans are probably going overboard with the hype, but he is a really good player. He whines a little on stream but I don't think it's that bad. Although whining on stream is like TL LoL's number one pet peeve.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 06 2013 03:09 GMT
#1887
On November 06 2013 12:06 onlywonderboy wrote:
God damn, the anti-Bjergsen talk is really bumming me out. I've liked him for so long and was already not super happy with him going to TSM so seeing all the negative sentiment just makes it worse. I agree TSM fans are probably going overboard with the hype, but he is a really good player. He whines a little on stream but I don't think it's that bad. Although whining on stream is TL LoL's like number one pet peeve.


As a TSM supporter from the very beginning - I think there is certainly some over hype. I think he's a great player, but I think TSM fans go overboard with everything (is a consequence of the product).

I'm looking forward to seeing how he does.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 06 2013 03:12 GMT
#1888
until he lanes vs. pobelter I will assume pobelter is still best mid NA
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 06 2013 03:21 GMT
#1889
On November 06 2013 12:12 zulu_nation8 wrote:
until he lanes vs. pobelter I will assume pobelter is still best mid NA

It could have happened if Curse wasn't dumb
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 06 2013 03:23 GMT
#1890
On November 06 2013 10:17 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 10:05 cLutZ wrote:
Jayce is more fun than I could have imagined. Should have been on this train long ago.

You hate assassins and non-interactive kits and you're fine with his laning?


Haha. Just because he is fun for ME, as Jayce, means nothing for his design being good for the overall health of the game.

On November 06 2013 11:01 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 10:05 cLutZ wrote:
Jayce is more fun than I could have imagined. Should have been on this train long ago.


And you yell at me for being like a yorick player...


Freeeeeeedom
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 06 2013 03:31 GMT
#1891
Praise Jesus, clamping is gone! (for most of us)
Clarity of progression is a major point of feedback we wanted to act on, so we’re removing clamping completely for anyone below Diamond I

(Source)
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
InfSunday
Profile Joined March 2013
United States735 Posts
November 06 2013 03:47 GMT
#1892
Bjergsen I think has potential to totally dominate S4 but what little I've seen on his stream hasn't 100% impressed me. Especially when he plays Zed. But he admitted that even before the nerfs his ninja mechanics were really bad, which won me over a little - I like people who can admit their weaknesses (okay to be honest I only saw a couple games of his, but he totally fed when he played Zed and refused to play him again that night, while the game before he quadrakilled under tower as Fizz, so there's basically my sample size of his play so far).

On November 06 2013 12:31 onlywonderboy wrote:
Praise Jesus, clamping is gone! (for most of us)
Show nested quote +
Clarity of progression is a major point of feedback we wanted to act on, so we’re removing clamping completely for anyone below Diamond I

(Source)


Now I just have to win games, hehe....
Call me Sunday
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
November 06 2013 03:48 GMT
#1893
Mikael’s Crucible

Cost lowered from 2500 to 1600
No longer grants HP/5
MP/5 reduced from 18 to 12

I take back every plan for revenge against random riot employees over the destruction of the beloved support role for s4.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 03:54:52
November 06 2013 03:49 GMT
#1894
On November 06 2013 12:48 layabout wrote:
Mikael’s Crucible

Cost lowered from 2500 to 1600
No longer grants HP/5
MP/5 reduced from 18 to 12

I take back every plan for revenge against random riot employees over the destruction of the beloved support role for s4.

I hope they continue this trend with supports.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 06 2013 03:51 GMT
#1895
Oh yeah, I saw that a while ago. Hope it goes through. I wonder if the active will stay the same though.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 04:10:16
November 06 2013 04:07 GMT
#1896
They never said it went away. So i am taking this as a direct buff to kogmaw and vayne and a nerf to zyra/fiddle/AP chunker in bot since my infinite mana janna isn't taking any damage and enemy cc is near worthless, especially if the adc grabs the new super cleanse.

Still sad that riot wants players to charge q on janna:
Howling Gale ( Q )

AP ratio reduced from 0.75 to 0.35
Now has a 0.1 AP per second ratio on the charge duration
Bonus damage for charging decreased from 20/30/40/50/60 to 14/20/25/30/35

And then they decrease the bonus damage for charging anyway.It just makes support janna do even less damage and straight up nerfs ap janna. What's more it still costs too much mana, and the only reason it was so expensive is that it did big damage a long time ago. I get that they want supports to build ap, but ruining all their ratios cements them in the support role and makes them crappy everywhere else. Since at any time there is likely to be a few top tier supports if the rest can only be played as supports riot is pushing champions into the never picked status.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
November 06 2013 04:08 GMT
#1897
Is it worth picking up Riven, or will she get nerfed soon because I think it's inevitable...
LoL: UnKooL and SoloQFiendUnKooL, SC2: UnKooL
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2397 Posts
November 06 2013 04:10 GMT
#1898
On November 06 2013 13:08 UnKooL wrote:
Is it worth picking up Riven, or will she get nerfed soon because I think it's inevitable...


As long as they don't gut her mobility or early game she'll always be relevant imo, at least in solo Q.
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 06 2013 04:10 GMT
#1899
On November 06 2013 13:08 UnKooL wrote:
Is it worth picking up Riven, or will she get nerfed soon because I think it's inevitable...

I don't care if she's good or not, because she's honestly a ton of fun.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
November 06 2013 04:15 GMT
#1900
On November 06 2013 13:10 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 13:08 UnKooL wrote:
Is it worth picking up Riven, or will she get nerfed soon because I think it's inevitable...

I don't care if she's good or not, because she's honestly a ton of fun.

Gonna try to learn riven or lee. I can't decide which one.
LoL: UnKooL and SoloQFiendUnKooL, SC2: UnKooL
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