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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 31 2013 19:18 GMT
#581
On November 01 2013 04:13 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 04:11 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On November 01 2013 04:04 Requizen wrote:
On November 01 2013 04:02 Alaric wrote:
On November 01 2013 03:56 Requizen wrote:
Occasionally though, the lower ranked player will play much, much better than the higher ranked duo.

Just saying.

The anomaly there is that despite how low Soniv stoop on a regular basis, you still haven't managed to do better more than "occasionally". <3

My Garen was carry god don't even start bro.


"Not dying" does not constitute as carrying. That's what you're supposed to do.

Taking a giant dump on Cait every time she showed her face does, tho.

Also you died twice baddie

Take it to pm's.

Scaling runes if the power point equivalent hit at lvl 6 meams at lvl 18 they'll be 3 times as good as flat. The best scaling are probably going to be stuff like ap/lvl, where lvl 6 is when you can start abusing your kit's powerspike with your runes strength as well.
liftlift > tsm
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-31 19:22:37
October 31 2013 19:21 GMT
#582
The tricky thing about that "start abusing your kit's power spike at level 6" is that if your post-6 kit is that much stronger than your pre-6 kit, it probably means your pre-6 kit is weak enough that you wanted other non-offensive rune types to buffer your strength rather than adding to your post-6 power spike.

It's not so easy to just balance flat/scaling over one stat, since there's interaction between the strength of different stats.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 31 2013 19:28 GMT
#583
On November 01 2013 04:21 TheYango wrote:
The tricky thing about that "start abusing your kit's power spike at level 6" is that if your post-6 kit is that much stronger than your pre-6 kit, it probably means your pre-6 kit is weak enough that you wanted other non-offensive rune types to buffer your strength rather than adding to your post-6 power spike.

It's not so easy to just balance flat/scaling over one stat, since there's interaction between the strength of different stats.

I agree, but then again. Faker doesn't run defensive runes to compensate for early game.. #thingsfakerdoes.

I think Ap probably only stat I think works well with scaling. Most ap mids generally have very safe farming, and their kits don't start kicking in til lvl 6. Where their full ap ratios on a rotation are unlocked.
liftlift > tsm
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 31 2013 19:34 GMT
#584
kassadin still running wild out there
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
NpG)Explosive
Profile Joined January 2003
France994 Posts
October 31 2013 19:36 GMT
#585
On November 01 2013 04:12 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 03:04 iCanada wrote:
I still think scaling runes will be a noob trap even if it breaks even then that's like five minutes for you to accrue an advantage with your better stats.

Only thing that would make scaling runes better is if they increased the scaling a lot on the later levels and there was a way or reason for you to take advantage of some later timing with Cary champ, assuming you could create a scenario in which they could free farm (ie 2v1).


If scaling runes were like X stat per level per level then that might make a real choice. Most pros are using flat runes for even things like MR which breaks even around lvl 6 because flat MR just lets you do more things for the first 5 levels and get away with it


MR glyphs break even at about lvl 9 and it used to be later if I remember well (around lvl 10-11).
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 31 2013 19:36 GMT
#586
I simply hate juggling runes. I made a new runepage for Eve once, then didn't get to jungle for like 7 games. Then I got bored of Eve once I played her a little bit, forgot about it, then didn't have my sexy Mundo Jungle Runepage ready when I picked him.

BLAH.
Freeeeeeedom
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 31 2013 19:39 GMT
#587
On November 01 2013 04:34 oneofthem wrote:
kassadin still running wild out there

The reworked Donger is the deadliest
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 31 2013 19:45 GMT
#588
So the idea with GP top recently is that you can just max Oranges and never give a fuck in 99% of lanes, right?

With the Yi Mediate buff, I think he should be able to do the same, but maybe even more effectively. He's weak in certain lanes (defense stacking lanes where he can't just yolo through them), but even in lanes where he's going to take a bunch of damage, if you max W getting 440-880 health for only 50 mana is pretty crazy efficient. Sure, it's not instant like Oranges, but the ability to grab farm, eat harass, then walk away and regen ~half of your health bar back is pretty nice.

I will try this.
It's your boy Guzma!
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 31 2013 19:45 GMT
#589
On November 01 2013 04:39 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 04:34 oneofthem wrote:
kassadin still running wild out there

The reworked Donger is the deadliest

Reworked dongers mean nothing when kassadin still riftwalks and double kills your bot and goes from 0/4 to 18/4 at the end of the match. At least everyone in gold just keeps kassadin perma banned in all circumstances.
Glorious SEA doto
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
October 31 2013 19:48 GMT
#590
On November 01 2013 04:34 oneofthem wrote:
kassadin still running wild out there


Riftrunning* So many annoying champs, so little bans.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-31 19:50:31
October 31 2013 19:50 GMT
#591
On November 01 2013 04:48 Parnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 04:34 oneofthem wrote:
kassadin still running wild out there


Riftrunning* So many annoying champs, so little bans.

After the 50th time I see my team's fizz kills himself failing an all in hard I no longer ban fizz, everyone at my MMR seem to suck too hard at fizz for me to care. Same with ahri oh dear god the missed charms. Only kassadin and jinx are the champs I just nope out of dealing with.
Glorious SEA doto
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
October 31 2013 19:53 GMT
#592
On November 01 2013 04:45 Requizen wrote:
So the idea with GP top recently is that you can just max Oranges and never give a fuck in 99% of lanes, right?

With the Yi Mediate buff, I think he should be able to do the same, but maybe even more effectively. He's weak in certain lanes (defense stacking lanes where he can't just yolo through them), but even in lanes where he's going to take a bunch of damage, if you max W getting 440-880 health for only 50 mana is pretty crazy efficient. Sure, it's not instant like Oranges, but the ability to grab farm, eat harass, then walk away and regen ~half of your health bar back is pretty nice.

I will try this.


Master Yi doesn't have a global
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 31 2013 19:55 GMT
#593
ahri and aatrox fixed? are they sure they didnt mess up again and reduce their ratios to 0 or make them resourceless afterwards or something
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 31 2013 19:57 GMT
#594
On November 01 2013 04:55 FinestHour wrote:
ahri and aatrox fixed? are they sure they didnt mess up again and reduce their ratios to 0 or make them resourceless afterwards or something

well, I think they kind of intended aatrox to be resourceless, depending on what you count as a resource
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 31 2013 19:57 GMT
#595
On November 01 2013 04:53 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 04:45 Requizen wrote:
So the idea with GP top recently is that you can just max Oranges and never give a fuck in 99% of lanes, right?

With the Yi Mediate buff, I think he should be able to do the same, but maybe even more effectively. He's weak in certain lanes (defense stacking lanes where he can't just yolo through them), but even in lanes where he's going to take a bunch of damage, if you max W getting 440-880 health for only 50 mana is pretty crazy efficient. Sure, it's not instant like Oranges, but the ability to grab farm, eat harass, then walk away and regen ~half of your health bar back is pretty nice.

I will try this.


Master Yi doesn't have a global

Master Yi also goes balls-to-the-wall murder as long as he doesn't get too behind. GP needs to get way ahead to steamroll half as hard as a Yi, imo.

On November 01 2013 04:55 FinestHour wrote:
ahri and aatrox fixed? are they sure they didnt mess up again and reduce their ratios to 0 or make them resourceless afterwards or something

Yeah it would suck if they made Aatrox resourceless hue.
It's your boy Guzma!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 31 2013 19:58 GMT
#596
Wow, I mystery gifted my friend Spirit Guard Udyr.
Dat RNG.
liftlift > tsm
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
October 31 2013 19:58 GMT
#597
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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
October 31 2013 20:00 GMT
#598
I feel like skins you get with mystery gift should have some special icon on the loading screen, so you can be that much cooler if you get gifted a really sweet skin
:3
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
October 31 2013 20:02 GMT
#599
Vlanitak was made Dig's analyst, I think he's a TLer?
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 31 2013 20:03 GMT
#600
On November 01 2013 05:02 Nos- wrote:
Vlanitak was made Dig's analyst, I think he's a TLer?

Analysing for dignitas probably amounts to 5 hours of valnitak pointing at a picture of baron and screaming "NO"
Glorious SEA doto
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