EPT[Patch 3.13] Heimer Rework General Discussion - Page 185
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 18 2013 03:46 57 Corvette wrote: Don't get it. Every time I play galio I go 0/2 or 0/3 in lane and then i somehow bounce back and at least end neutral if not positive KD. Maybe its the power spike when I get RoA/Athenes? No, because no on in solo queue knows how to play against press R champions. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On November 18 2013 03:37 wei2coolman wrote: TL Froggen? EDIT: watching TOO stream, starts dblade lee sin, doesn't grab lifesteal quints, doesn't gank at level 3, instead decides to full clear his jungle without a single gank try. wut. OddOne is freaking out about not being told what to do. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 18 2013 03:50 Fusilero wrote: OddOne is freaking out about not being told what to do. Double dblade, still 0-0-0 at 14 min mark. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On November 18 2013 03:52 wei2coolman wrote: Double dblade, still 0-0-0 at 14 min mark. He's waiting for regi to tell him to gank mid | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 18 2013 03:53 Fusilero wrote: He's waiting for regi to tell him to gank mid Saint on enemy team, as jungle wukong, 2-0-2, and 15 more farm than TOO. If your not ganking, you shouldn't be getting outfarmed. This is just so facepalm >.> At least he grabbed early dragon cuz his botlane. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On November 18 2013 03:54 wei2coolman wrote: Saint on enemy team, as jungle wukong, 2-0-2, and 15 more farm than TOO. If your not ganking, you shouldn't be getting outfarmed. This is just so facepalm >.> At least he grabbed early dragon cuz his botlane. I forgot about saint's current obsession with jungle wukong, seriously every time I watch his stream or see him on another stream he's on jungle wukong | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
yeah he just missed 3 easy Qs in a row, I know why he still hasn't played Lee for TSM ever. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 18 2013 03:56 AsnSensation wrote: just one of those games you have in a while where no ganks work out and you afk farm the jungle, yet yourteam somehow manages to stay even xD yeah he just missed 3 easy Qs in a row, I know why he still hasn't played Lee for TSM ever. Too busy missing Elise stuns, to miss Lee Sin Q. lol. EDIT: Saint so bm, lol, TOO kicks Saint into nidalee, "Look, i'm oddone, i'm helping". | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
OH SNAP IT'S KICKING OFF BETWEEN SAINT AND ODDONE | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 18 2013 04:01 Fusilero wrote: And now oddone just kicked saint's ulting wukong to give saint's jax a shutdown onto his fed nid. Stick J4 and elise oddone Oh shit, this shit talking. though saint pretty much hit the nail on the head. lol. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On November 17 2013 23:57 Tula wrote: Well the one thing you can say he has empirically tested is that master Yi in the new jungle while building wriggles runs into sustain issues and has about the same amount of gold as he had in S3. If that information is worth anything is another question entirely  All the jungle camps got buffed either in HP or damage in S4, so it's harder to clear them. And since you don't get the Wriggle up until 7,8 min with constant farm, from 1-7min, it's harder for S4 junglers to farm. The fact that by 12min, junglers still end up having 300+ gold more than S3 jungler is a positive thing. In the end of the clip, he kept saying how he dies while killing the camp at 4:00, he should read the patch note and understand the camp is way stronger than before. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On November 18 2013 02:36 wei2coolman wrote: Well jungler routinely keeps up with sololaner xp til around lvl 6. Sometimes with good jungle control can keep in closr xp range of solo laner around lvl 9. If anything, jangle camps xp gain would be lower in real game early on, than in solo custom game. lol Wei2coolman, how does your computer not explode in 404 Errors when you post ridiculous shit like this? Please explain to the general public how a jungler is routinely supposed to keep up with laners in either 1) professional games or 2) solo queue games. What is your strategy? I ask the public, how many times do you see a jungler keep equal footing with a mid till level 6? | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On November 18 2013 04:12 canikizu wrote: All the jungle camps got buffed either in HP or damage in S4, so it's harder to clear them. And since you don't get the Wriggle up until 7,8 min with constant farm, from 1-7min, it's harder for S4 junglers to farm. The fact that by 12min, junglers still end up having 300+ gold more than S3 jungler is a positive thing. In the end of the clip, he kept saying how he dies while killing the camp at 4:00, he should read the patch note and understand the camp is way stronger than before. Isn't that with Power farm though? Really the only way things change is if the profit from ganking is significantly reduced. Otherwise the jungle will stay the same. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On November 18 2013 04:56 cLutZ wrote: Isn't that with Power farm though? Really the only way things change is if the profit from ganking is significantly reduced. Otherwise the jungle will stay the same. Shouldn't it be a lot harder to gank on anyone not named Eve? All them Wards. What top laner isn't going to have a ward down for the 3 minute mark if the enemy jungler started bottom side when they all get one free? | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 18 2013 04:51 Roffles wrote: lol Wei2coolman, how does your computer not explode in 404 Errors when you post ridiculous shit like this? Please explain to the general public how a jungler is routinely supposed to keep up with laners in either 1) professional games or 2) solo queue games. What is your strategy? I ask the public, how many times do you see a jungler keep equal footing with a mid till level 6? Take all the buffs. Always push wave after ganks. Should be hitting 6 around same time as solo laners. Only maybe like 30s or 1 min apart. Just my experience :/ Then again I play a lot of games with tax heavy jungler friends. | ||
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Cr4zyH0r5e
Peru1308 Posts
Edit. Done laughing. Barring the fact that solo laners hit lvl 6 berore 7:15 (the usual time when your 2nd buff spawns) even if you take solo lane experience the only way you'll be able to keep up is if either laner dies to a dumb gank timing and gives up 2 full waves of experience. Unless you're playing with solo laners who consistently missmanage wave and get killed at their own tower while you're near to get all the exp. You shouldn't be able to keep up. | ||
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