EPT[Patch 3.13] Heimer Rework General Discussion - Page 13
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On October 31 2013 01:15 JonGalt wrote: Solari scum. also, ketara have you played urgot in a solo lane? his kit is clearly anti carry, but he seems far better at dealing with an assassin rather than a DPSer. Ketara likes to ignore me now when I talk about Urgot. I've played with him in almost 10 games doing Leona/Urgot and now he won't discuss actual gameplay with me.  | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Cheekiness aside, it's interesting to notice how he was perceived as strong enough to bully there when he has no built-in sustain nor defensive mechanics of any kind (nor even good base stats) and said harass tool was a 600 range cone on a 10s cd. That was a bit before or after top lane was qualified as "farm fest sustain island". On October 31 2013 01:06 cLutZ wrote: Your sarcasm, my actual thoughts. Anivia games rock. Now I know where your irrational hate of assassins comes from (and am left to wonder why you complain how they can 100-0 people with a single item when she 100-50 without any). | ||
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On October 31 2013 01:19 Zdrastochye wrote: Ketara likes to ignore me now when I talk about Urgot. I've played with him in almost 10 games doing Leona/Urgot and now he won't discuss actual gameplay with me. I mean, it's cool that you're having success and all, but it's hardly indicative of the champion not needing buffs. I maintain pretty good scores with Lux in ranked but Lux isn't overpowered (although hilariously she hasn't really been touched at all since back when she was considered overpowered) | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On October 31 2013 01:20 Alaric wrote: I remember release Talon terroring top lane because his base mp5 made Rake a significant harass tool. Cheekiness aside, it's interesting to notice how he was perceived as strong enough to bully there when he has no built-in sustain nor defensive mechanics of any kind (nor even good base stats) and said harass tool was a 600 range cone on a 10s cd. That was a bit before or after top lane was qualified as "farm fest sustain island". Now I know where your irrational hate of assassins comes from (and am left to wonder why you complain how they can 100-0 people with a single item when she 100-50 without any). Base damage champions are a lot more prevalent than champions who get insane damage with just an item or two. On October 31 2013 01:22 Ketara wrote: I mean, it's cool that you're having success and all, but it's hardly indicative of the champion not needing buffs. I maintain pretty good scores with Lux in ranked but Lux isn't overpowered (although hilariously she hasn't really been touched at all since back when she was considered overpowered) Yeah but I want to actually discuss it, you know, with live data. If you buff a champion who can already work (but nobody tries him out) then once people start playing the buffed version, you create a problem, that you end up nerfing. | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On October 31 2013 01:18 Ketara wrote: I can definitely see Urgot being pretty good against melee assassins in a solo lane. I've never done this myself, I'm too in love with Lissandra in that specific type of matchup. I see that, but are you going to try him in a solo lane? you got so heated about it and I am wondering if you will pursue trying to make him work. edit: totally read your post wrong. fixed for clarification. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
My argument about him needing buffs is pretty purely numbers based. I don't think you need to go past that, his numbers are pretty blatantly inferior to modern champions. And I think it's sad that such a unique champion is being left out of this round of give-minor-numbers-buffs-to-old-champions that they're doing. Urgot ult is 120 mana Riot plz. | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
it just seems like he really needs to be played in a solo lane, but everyone compares him to a duo lane. I will probably explore numbers tomorrow, but the sun is going down so I won't have much charge for the night. edit: the 120 CD on his ultimate blows though haha | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 31 2013 01:33 Zdrastochye wrote: What about his numbers of winning lanes when paired with Leona? What % of games would I have to win for you to conclude that he's not actually in need of buffs? I'm determined to collect as much data as you need. Join Korean team, pick urgot every game, | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On October 31 2013 01:37 wei2coolman wrote: Join Korean team, pick urgot every game, But the more important thing is... would I then get Ketara's approval? Chalk this up to I can put real, hard in game numbers behind Urgot's ability to carry games without the need for buffs, if the | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On October 31 2013 01:33 Zdrastochye wrote: What about his numbers of winning lanes when paired with Leona? What % of games would I have to win for you to conclude that he's not actually in need of buffs? I'm determined to collect as much data as you need. Olaf always comes up as a counterexample of a champion no one liked to play against but had a shitty win rate. | ||
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Taktik
Poland680 Posts
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
On October 31 2013 01:53 Taktik wrote: Only one post about J4 nerf? Holy crap that could be huge (especially for bad players like me xd). Have to test it in custom or smth o__O They made it so you actually have to land your combo to knock people up now, you can't miss and still get a knockup even though you got hit by nothing edit: or at least I hope so | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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Kiett
United States7639 Posts
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1pjjck/disable_ahri_and_fix_her/ | ||
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Kyrie
1594 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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