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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 30 2013 15:37 GMT
#221
On October 31 2013 00:35 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 00:32 Fusilero wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:11 Requizen wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:10 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:05 Requizen wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:00 Sponkz wrote:
On October 30 2013 23:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On October 30 2013 23:55 JonGalt wrote:
On October 30 2013 23:48 Sponkz wrote:
Lol stop talking about whether or not heimer is OP. Clearly the meta (can we invent a new word for this please?) is favoring poke champions more and more, just give it 2-3 weeks and he´ll be popular like never before.


Current Optimal Wizard Football Strategy. COWFS for short.


All we have to do is convince Monte/DoA to use it and we've changed the GAME.



We´ve changed the metagame


+ Show Spoiler +
hue+ Show Spoiler +
huehuehue

I wish I could hurt you through the internet for that -.-


Is anyone getting any of the Harrowing skins for this year? I was thinking about the TF one, but I don't really play any of the others (well, I occasionally play Ryze but I have Uncle Ryze so I like that one).


Zyra is instabuy


No but seriously Zyra is INSTABUY

I also might pick up Headless Hecarim because I like it so much but I already have Arcade and also Hecarim sucks qq

Tell that to the Hec in our game last night. I'm still of the opinion that there's nothing necessarily "wrong" with Hec.

Pwny has gone back to the murky area where he's not strong enough to be popular but strong enough for the only people who still play him are really good at him (See rammus as well)

I call that "The Swain Zone".

Seriously, when I see someone pick Swain I immediately know they're either going to be total trash or end the game like 16-1.

Me and my friends always referred to it as the rumble zone when he had the highest win rate.
Glorious SEA doto
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
October 30 2013 15:38 GMT
#222
On October 31 2013 00:25 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Just in case he does actually, I just want to say Chill, get out!

LoL

Froggen get out!
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
October 30 2013 15:40 GMT
#223
On October 31 2013 00:32 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 00:11 Requizen wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:10 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:05 Requizen wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:00 Sponkz wrote:
On October 30 2013 23:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On October 30 2013 23:55 JonGalt wrote:
On October 30 2013 23:48 Sponkz wrote:
Lol stop talking about whether or not heimer is OP. Clearly the meta (can we invent a new word for this please?) is favoring poke champions more and more, just give it 2-3 weeks and he´ll be popular like never before.


Current Optimal Wizard Football Strategy. COWFS for short.


All we have to do is convince Monte/DoA to use it and we've changed the GAME.



We´ve changed the metagame


+ Show Spoiler +
hue+ Show Spoiler +
huehuehue

I wish I could hurt you through the internet for that -.-


Is anyone getting any of the Harrowing skins for this year? I was thinking about the TF one, but I don't really play any of the others (well, I occasionally play Ryze but I have Uncle Ryze so I like that one).


Zyra is instabuy


No but seriously Zyra is INSTABUY

I also might pick up Headless Hecarim because I like it so much but I already have Arcade and also Hecarim sucks qq

Tell that to the Hec in our game last night. I'm still of the opinion that there's nothing necessarily "wrong" with Hec.

Pwny has gone back to the murky area where he's not strong enough to be popular but strong enough for the only people who still play him are really good at him (See rammus as well)


I call that murky area, balanced.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 30 2013 15:40 GMT
#224
On October 31 2013 00:40 JonGalt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 00:32 Fusilero wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:11 Requizen wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:10 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:05 Requizen wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:00 Sponkz wrote:
On October 30 2013 23:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On October 30 2013 23:55 JonGalt wrote:
On October 30 2013 23:48 Sponkz wrote:
Lol stop talking about whether or not heimer is OP. Clearly the meta (can we invent a new word for this please?) is favoring poke champions more and more, just give it 2-3 weeks and he´ll be popular like never before.


Current Optimal Wizard Football Strategy. COWFS for short.


All we have to do is convince Monte/DoA to use it and we've changed the GAME.



We´ve changed the metagame


+ Show Spoiler +
hue+ Show Spoiler +
huehuehue

I wish I could hurt you through the internet for that -.-


Is anyone getting any of the Harrowing skins for this year? I was thinking about the TF one, but I don't really play any of the others (well, I occasionally play Ryze but I have Uncle Ryze so I like that one).


Zyra is instabuy


No but seriously Zyra is INSTABUY

I also might pick up Headless Hecarim because I like it so much but I already have Arcade and also Hecarim sucks qq

Tell that to the Hec in our game last night. I'm still of the opinion that there's nothing necessarily "wrong" with Hec.

Pwny has gone back to the murky area where he's not strong enough to be popular but strong enough for the only people who still play him are really good at him (See rammus as well)


I call that murky area, balanced.

In a game with 116 champions, balanced = underpowered.

The sad truth.
It's your boy Guzma!
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 30 2013 15:48 GMT
#225
On October 31 2013 00:40 JonGalt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 00:32 Fusilero wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:11 Requizen wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:10 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:05 Requizen wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:00 Sponkz wrote:
On October 30 2013 23:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On October 30 2013 23:55 JonGalt wrote:
On October 30 2013 23:48 Sponkz wrote:
Lol stop talking about whether or not heimer is OP. Clearly the meta (can we invent a new word for this please?) is favoring poke champions more and more, just give it 2-3 weeks and he´ll be popular like never before.


Current Optimal Wizard Football Strategy. COWFS for short.


All we have to do is convince Monte/DoA to use it and we've changed the GAME.



We´ve changed the metagame


+ Show Spoiler +
hue+ Show Spoiler +
huehuehue

I wish I could hurt you through the internet for that -.-


Is anyone getting any of the Harrowing skins for this year? I was thinking about the TF one, but I don't really play any of the others (well, I occasionally play Ryze but I have Uncle Ryze so I like that one).


Zyra is instabuy


No but seriously Zyra is INSTABUY

I also might pick up Headless Hecarim because I like it so much but I already have Arcade and also Hecarim sucks qq

Tell that to the Hec in our game last night. I'm still of the opinion that there's nothing necessarily "wrong" with Hec.

Pwny has gone back to the murky area where he's not strong enough to be popular but strong enough for the only people who still play him are really good at him (See rammus as well)


I call that murky area, balanced.

Balance is boring though, everything OP or UP pls.
Glorious SEA doto
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 30 2013 15:55 GMT
#226
On October 31 2013 00:48 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 00:40 JonGalt wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:32 Fusilero wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:11 Requizen wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:10 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:05 Requizen wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:00 Sponkz wrote:
On October 30 2013 23:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On October 30 2013 23:55 JonGalt wrote:
[quote]

Current Optimal Wizard Football Strategy. COWFS for short.


All we have to do is convince Monte/DoA to use it and we've changed the GAME.



We´ve changed the metagame


+ Show Spoiler +
hue+ Show Spoiler +
huehuehue

I wish I could hurt you through the internet for that -.-


Is anyone getting any of the Harrowing skins for this year? I was thinking about the TF one, but I don't really play any of the others (well, I occasionally play Ryze but I have Uncle Ryze so I like that one).


Zyra is instabuy


No but seriously Zyra is INSTABUY

I also might pick up Headless Hecarim because I like it so much but I already have Arcade and also Hecarim sucks qq

Tell that to the Hec in our game last night. I'm still of the opinion that there's nothing necessarily "wrong" with Hec.

Pwny has gone back to the murky area where he's not strong enough to be popular but strong enough for the only people who still play him are really good at him (See rammus as well)


I call that murky area, balanced.

Balance is boring though, everything OP or UP pls.


only eve UP pls
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
October 30 2013 15:57 GMT
#227
On October 31 2013 00:55 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 00:48 Fusilero wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:40 JonGalt wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:32 Fusilero wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:11 Requizen wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:10 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:05 Requizen wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:00 Sponkz wrote:
On October 30 2013 23:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:
[quote]

All we have to do is convince Monte/DoA to use it and we've changed the GAME.



We´ve changed the metagame


+ Show Spoiler +
hue+ Show Spoiler +
huehuehue

I wish I could hurt you through the internet for that -.-


Is anyone getting any of the Harrowing skins for this year? I was thinking about the TF one, but I don't really play any of the others (well, I occasionally play Ryze but I have Uncle Ryze so I like that one).


Zyra is instabuy


No but seriously Zyra is INSTABUY

I also might pick up Headless Hecarim because I like it so much but I already have Arcade and also Hecarim sucks qq

Tell that to the Hec in our game last night. I'm still of the opinion that there's nothing necessarily "wrong" with Hec.

Pwny has gone back to the murky area where he's not strong enough to be popular but strong enough for the only people who still play him are really good at him (See rammus as well)


I call that murky area, balanced.

Balance is boring though, everything OP or UP pls.


only eve UP pls


What about Zed and Fizz though? (also all assassins)
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 30 2013 15:58 GMT
#228
I remember a time when picking any assassin was met with derision and trolling comments.

Rtoi plz
It's your boy Guzma!
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 30 2013 15:59 GMT
#229
On October 31 2013 00:58 Requizen wrote:
I remember a time when picking any assassin was met with derision and trolling comments.

Rtoi plz

Rito pls, I want to see more riveting karthus matches.
Glorious SEA doto
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 30 2013 16:00 GMT
#230
On October 31 2013 00:59 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 00:58 Requizen wrote:
I remember a time when picking any assassin was met with derision and trolling comments.

Rtoi plz

Rito pls, I want to see more riveting karthus matches.

Froggen 66 minute Anivia games were just fascinating.
It's your boy Guzma!
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14155 Posts
October 30 2013 16:03 GMT
#231
Tsl3 best sc2 event that happened ez pz chill neutral cast best cast
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 30 2013 16:05 GMT
#232
On October 31 2013 00:37 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 00:35 Requizen wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:32 Fusilero wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:11 Requizen wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:10 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:05 Requizen wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:00 Sponkz wrote:
On October 30 2013 23:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On October 30 2013 23:55 JonGalt wrote:
[quote]

Current Optimal Wizard Football Strategy. COWFS for short.


All we have to do is convince Monte/DoA to use it and we've changed the GAME.



We´ve changed the metagame


+ Show Spoiler +
hue+ Show Spoiler +
huehuehue

I wish I could hurt you through the internet for that -.-


Is anyone getting any of the Harrowing skins for this year? I was thinking about the TF one, but I don't really play any of the others (well, I occasionally play Ryze but I have Uncle Ryze so I like that one).


Zyra is instabuy


No but seriously Zyra is INSTABUY

I also might pick up Headless Hecarim because I like it so much but I already have Arcade and also Hecarim sucks qq

Tell that to the Hec in our game last night. I'm still of the opinion that there's nothing necessarily "wrong" with Hec.

Pwny has gone back to the murky area where he's not strong enough to be popular but strong enough for the only people who still play him are really good at him (See rammus as well)

I call that "The Swain Zone".

Seriously, when I see someone pick Swain I immediately know they're either going to be total trash or end the game like 16-1.

Me and my friends always referred to it as the rumble zone when he had the highest win rate.

How did you miss the obvious danger zone pun? No wonder they can't replace riv.
Freeeeeeedom
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 16:09:38
October 30 2013 16:06 GMT
#233
If pinks are going to be visible I definitely see some issues with stealth characters. it would be cool if pink wards invisible when you were stealth and visible when not.

I kinda like the trinket idea. there could be some interesting strats like mid/jungle/support going sweeper for super roaming squads.

the way wards and vision will work seem like there will be a lot of positional play and leap frogging with wards. like siege tank play. if you see an enemy team warding on one side heavily, with proper counting you can use that info to flank them. that's what I'm hoping for at least.

edit: typo
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 30 2013 16:06 GMT
#234
On October 31 2013 01:00 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 00:59 Fusilero wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:58 Requizen wrote:
I remember a time when picking any assassin was met with derision and trolling comments.

Rtoi plz

Rito pls, I want to see more riveting karthus matches.

Froggen 66 minute Anivia games were just fascinating.

Your sarcasm, my actual thoughts. Anivia games rock.
Freeeeeeedom
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 30 2013 16:07 GMT
#235
On October 31 2013 01:06 JonGalt wrote:
If pinks are going to be visible I definitely see some issues with stealth characters. it would be cool if pink wards invisible when you were sheathed and visible when not.

I kinda like the trinket idea. there could be some interesting strats like mid/jungle/support going sweeper for super roaming squads.

the way wards and vision will work seem like there will be a lot of positional play and leap frogging with wards. like siege tank play. if you see an enemy team warding on one side heavily, with proper counting you can use that info to flank them. that's what I'm hoping for at least.


Oh, unless they change something or reveal new info, Eve is perma ban for me because of the pink change.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 30 2013 16:10 GMT
#236
On October 31 2013 01:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 01:06 JonGalt wrote:
If pinks are going to be visible I definitely see some issues with stealth characters. it would be cool if pink wards invisible when you were sheathed and visible when not.

I kinda like the trinket idea. there could be some interesting strats like mid/jungle/support going sweeper for super roaming squads.

the way wards and vision will work seem like there will be a lot of positional play and leap frogging with wards. like siege tank play. if you see an enemy team warding on one side heavily, with proper counting you can use that info to flank them. that's what I'm hoping for at least.


Oh, unless they change something or reveal new info, Eve is perma ban for me because of the pink change.


As soon as I read that change I had the same thought. Surely Riot had the same idea too so there must be something we are missing.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 30 2013 16:11 GMT
#237
On October 31 2013 01:10 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 01:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On October 31 2013 01:06 JonGalt wrote:
If pinks are going to be visible I definitely see some issues with stealth characters. it would be cool if pink wards invisible when you were sheathed and visible when not.

I kinda like the trinket idea. there could be some interesting strats like mid/jungle/support going sweeper for super roaming squads.

the way wards and vision will work seem like there will be a lot of positional play and leap frogging with wards. like siege tank play. if you see an enemy team warding on one side heavily, with proper counting you can use that info to flank them. that's what I'm hoping for at least.


Oh, unless they change something or reveal new info, Eve is perma ban for me because of the pink change.


As soon as I read that change I had the same thought. Surely Riot had the same idea too so there must be something we are missing.



Surely someone looked at the S2 Worlds stage set up and thought "what about the sun?" cuz that was my first thought.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 30 2013 16:13 GMT
#238
Depends on a lot of things. If they drop Pink Ward price down to 75g in compensation for the visibility, I don't see it being too bad. Eve is supposed to pressure lanes with her very presence in a game.
It's your boy Guzma!
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
October 30 2013 16:13 GMT
#239
On October 31 2013 00:48 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 00:40 JonGalt wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:32 Fusilero wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:11 Requizen wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:10 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:05 Requizen wrote:
On October 31 2013 00:00 Sponkz wrote:
On October 30 2013 23:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On October 30 2013 23:55 JonGalt wrote:
[quote]

Current Optimal Wizard Football Strategy. COWFS for short.


All we have to do is convince Monte/DoA to use it and we've changed the GAME.



We´ve changed the metagame


+ Show Spoiler +
hue+ Show Spoiler +
huehuehue

I wish I could hurt you through the internet for that -.-


Is anyone getting any of the Harrowing skins for this year? I was thinking about the TF one, but I don't really play any of the others (well, I occasionally play Ryze but I have Uncle Ryze so I like that one).


Zyra is instabuy


No but seriously Zyra is INSTABUY

I also might pick up Headless Hecarim because I like it so much but I already have Arcade and also Hecarim sucks qq

Tell that to the Hec in our game last night. I'm still of the opinion that there's nothing necessarily "wrong" with Hec.

Pwny has gone back to the murky area where he's not strong enough to be popular but strong enough for the only people who still play him are really good at him (See rammus as well)


I call that murky area, balanced.

Balance is boring though, everything OP or UP pls.



Nobody likes to talk about balanced champions :p
hi
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
October 30 2013 16:15 GMT
#240
On October 31 2013 01:11 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 01:10 Numy wrote:
On October 31 2013 01:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On October 31 2013 01:06 JonGalt wrote:
If pinks are going to be visible I definitely see some issues with stealth characters. it would be cool if pink wards invisible when you were sheathed and visible when not.

I kinda like the trinket idea. there could be some interesting strats like mid/jungle/support going sweeper for super roaming squads.

the way wards and vision will work seem like there will be a lot of positional play and leap frogging with wards. like siege tank play. if you see an enemy team warding on one side heavily, with proper counting you can use that info to flank them. that's what I'm hoping for at least.


Oh, unless they change something or reveal new info, Eve is perma ban for me because of the pink change.


As soon as I read that change I had the same thought. Surely Riot had the same idea too so there must be something we are missing.



Surely someone looked at the S2 Worlds stage set up and thought "what about the sun?" cuz that was my first thought.


Solari scum.

also, ketara have you played urgot in a solo lane? his kit is clearly anti carry, but he seems far better at dealing with an assassin rather than a DPSer.
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