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On October 25 2013 00:28 spellsy wrote:
here is my opinion on the matter.

I suck at gaming (and most sports). i just dont have the real time / quick decision making, confidence, or whatever it is to be instantly good at these things. I have no game talent.

But I still played competitively, and still can be diamond 1 when trolling solo Q, etc. etc.. This is a lot because of just playing the game a TON last year, but also comes down to knowledge.

And this is why i think its bull shit when people say "oh im silver, but i watch streams and understand the game so well!". there isnt that much execution in LoL that if you understand you cant get at least diamond. I suck dick at execution, as previously stated, yet im there.

so, dont say your understanding is way higher than you are ranked and its execution holding you back. its either your understanding is much worse than you think (probably the answer), or you dont play enough games (rarely the case).

(note: esports understanding and GAME-solo Q understanding are two different things, as the context is strategically very different).

On October 25 2013 00:09 Slayer91 wrote:
theres a difference between broad game knowledge which is like knowing why lane swaps are good and what makes x jungler good over y jungler, which most people seem to think is really important. Specific game knowledge which requires a deeper understanding of the game such as how do i play this lane, how do i play this teamfight, should i gank here etc are whats a lot more important.

similarly in bw most people think they have brilliant stratgies but dont know enough about when to build workers when to expand when to attack how many production buildings to build etc
it doesnt matter if your army comp is better if they have 2x as much stuff.
those things were listed as "mechanics" but it was 90% game knowledge and 10% moving faster by knowing exactly what you had to do and why

On October 25 2013 00:55 Ketara wrote:


It sounds to me like you are agreeing with me that it's possible to have a very good understanding of the game without being a high level player.

I mean, if you want to think the above is impossible, you're entitled to your opinion I suppose. I'm going to stand by the statement that you are obviously and demonstrably wrong, but whatever.

What's strange to me is the people who go around calling Morello a silver league scrub but then praising the ideas of low league TLers. The hypocrisy is blatant and I wish there was a more mature level of conversation going on in the thread.

On October 25 2013 00:50 Osmoses wrote:
If league was your job, as in if you were a Riot employee, would you play it in your free time? Like, grinding the ladder?

Fuck no. And even if you did, the designers have always been more concerned with what's fun (for players and spectators) rather than what's balanced. So far I'd say they've done brilliantly.

On October 25 2013 00:58 nafta wrote:

When someone consistently talks crap why would people not shit on him?It's not a hypocrisy.

On October 25 2013 01:03 Ketara wrote:


Somebody who is saying person A is wrong BECAUSE they're low league, and then saying person B, who is low league, is correct, is being hypocritical.

If you want to argue that the changes are bad because they're bad for XYZ reasons, go ahead that's actually a debatable standpoint. Don't say they're bad because the game designers aren't diamond league and don't know what they're doing. That's not an argument, it's just you making an ignorant, immature and hypocritical post.

On October 25 2013 01:03 Ketara wrote:


Somebody who is saying person A is wrong BECAUSE they're low league, and then saying person B, who is low league, is correct, is being hypocritical.

If you want to argue that the changes are bad because they're bad for XYZ reasons, go ahead that's actually a debatable standpoint. Don't say they're bad because the game designers aren't diamond league and don't know what they're doing. That's not an argument, it's just you making an ignorant, immature and hypocritical post.

On October 25 2013 00:50 JimmiC wrote:



Ok so what is your point?

Mine is that The guy said "yango is not high level but high level understanding" I agree with his point and think it was a good example because people here know and respect yango.

You are argueing with me. What are you arguing? It seams liek you are arguing the average silver/ gold player doesn't have great knowledge, but thats not the point, or what I'm saying. I'm saying you don't have to be diamound to have great knowedge. Sure, more higher level people have understanding from a % perspective, but again thats not my point. So what is your arguement to my first sentance. If you don't disagree with it, then in fact sir its you that don't understand at all.

On October 25 2013 00:55 Ketara wrote:


It sounds to me like you are agreeing with me that it's possible to have a very good understanding of the game without being a high level player.

I mean, if you want to think the above is impossible, you're entitled to your opinion I suppose. I'm going to stand by the statement that you are obviously and demonstrably wrong, but whatever.

What's strange to me is the people who go around calling Morello a silver league scrub but then praise the ideas of low league TLers. The hypocrisy is blatant and I wish there was a more mature level of conversation going on in the thread.

On October 25 2013 01:10 Slayer91 wrote:
also from a game design perspective you need a differnet kind of understanding again and broader and being good at game design has no direct correlation to being good at the game (but the better you are at one or the other should enhance the counterpart)

On October 25 2013 00:55 Ketara wrote:

What's strange to me is the people who go around calling Morello a silver league scrub but then praise the ideas of low league TLers. The hypocrisy is blatant and I wish there was a more mature level of conversation going on in the thread.

On October 25 2013 00:50 Osmoses wrote:
If league was your job, as in if you were a Riot employee, would you play it in your free time? Like, grinding the ladder?

Fuck no. And even if you did, the designers have always been more concerned with what's fun (for players and spectators) rather than what's balanced. So far I'd say they've done brilliantly.

On October 25 2013 01:19 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:


not me i think tlers are wrong more often than not

how i know a hero is useless: tl gd says its good
how i know a hero is good: tl gd says its bad

On October 25 2013 01:20 AsmodeusXI wrote:


gtfo heroes are for that shit game doto

On October 25 2013 01:21 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:


i make sure to call them heroes here and i make sure to say champs when im talkinga bout dota