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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 22 2013 15:11 GMT
#5621
her range wouldn't be an issue if she was a damage threat when you were standing behind minions, as is she is not.
Carrilord has arrived.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
October 22 2013 15:17 GMT
#5622
On October 23 2013 00:09 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 00:04 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On October 23 2013 00:00 Requizen wrote:
On October 22 2013 23:58 oneofthem wrote:
On October 22 2013 20:27 Redox wrote:
screenshot from s4 testing:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/q71/s720x720/1380810_754690987879596_1733510948_n.jpg

Supports with actual items, and no wards in inventory. Hm.

ezrael wtih even more attack speed? the horrors

Honestly, while he's still good they really took a lot off of his W over that series of nerfs, so I wouldn't be surprised for there to be compensations or changes. AS Debuff was really bullshit, though.


if by "bullshit" you mean "completely warranted", then yes, I agree

No, I mean the debuff itself was bullshit, the nerf was warranted. I dislike the ability almost altogether right now, it's basically just good for a TF proc or a passive stack and nothing else.


you use it on your allies
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 22 2013 15:18 GMT
#5623
On October 23 2013 00:11 Slusher wrote:
her range wouldn't be an issue if she was a damage threat when you were standing behind minions, as is she is not.

They should revert her back to her prerework kit. I thought the ability to have bouncing auto attacks was pretty cool.
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-22 15:19:51
October 22 2013 15:18 GMT
#5624
On October 23 2013 00:06 Slusher wrote:
I think even Sivir would be fine if they would just let boomerang blade do more than half of it's damage to targets behind minions, it's not like it's the fastest missile in the world to begin with.

MF could possibly be buffed back to her ult damage at the start of s3, but it really depends on if there are changes to limit split pushing, if you can force team fights easier in s4 she'll be good again.

Graves is good, I don't know why we don't see him more, the fact that people still pick Ezreal for anything other than blue Ez just shows people are unwilling to play champions that require good positioning unless they are broken op (see:Vayne)

His range sucks, his AS blows, and his ratios aren't special unless you hit 2+ bullet Buckshots.

Anybody with sub 550 range needs to be exceptional elsewhere.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 22 2013 15:21 GMT
#5625
On October 23 2013 00:18 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 00:06 Slusher wrote:
I think even Sivir would be fine if they would just let boomerang blade do more than half of it's damage to targets behind minions, it's not like it's the fastest missile in the world to begin with.

MF could possibly be buffed back to her ult damage at the start of s3, but it really depends on if there are changes to limit split pushing, if you can force team fights easier in s4 she'll be good again.

Graves is good, I don't know why we don't see him more, the fact that people still pick Ezreal for anything other than blue Ez just shows people are unwilling to play champions that require good positioning unless they are broken op (see:Vayne)

His range sucks, his AS blows, and his ratios aren't special unless you hit 2+ bullet Buckshots.

DL still convinced graves is the soft counter to corki lane. I think all the ads in a good spot with corki being a bit better than the rest.
liftlift > tsm
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-22 15:24:09
October 22 2013 15:23 GMT
#5626
On October 23 2013 00:18 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 00:11 Slusher wrote:
her range wouldn't be an issue if she was a damage threat when you were standing behind minions, as is she is not.

They should revert her back to her prerework kit. I thought the ability to have bouncing auto attacks was pretty cool.


the way the PBE W works sort of reverts this, but I don't think it will help her lane in any way, honestly boomerang blade just needs a much smaller damage drop off.
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-22 15:26:58
October 22 2013 15:24 GMT
#5627
On October 23 2013 00:21 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 00:18 Gahlo wrote:
On October 23 2013 00:06 Slusher wrote:
I think even Sivir would be fine if they would just let boomerang blade do more than half of it's damage to targets behind minions, it's not like it's the fastest missile in the world to begin with.

MF could possibly be buffed back to her ult damage at the start of s3, but it really depends on if there are changes to limit split pushing, if you can force team fights easier in s4 she'll be good again.

Graves is good, I don't know why we don't see him more, the fact that people still pick Ezreal for anything other than blue Ez just shows people are unwilling to play champions that require good positioning unless they are broken op (see:Vayne)

His range sucks, his AS blows, and his ratios aren't special unless you hit 2+ bullet Buckshots.

DL still convinced graves is the soft counter to corki lane. I think all the ads in a good spot with corki being a bit better than the rest.

And he's right if the Graves is at least even. Corki wants to get up in Graves face with Gatling, but an on par Graves will be able to 3 bullet Buckshot and win the fight purely based on his burst trumping the sustained damage.

When Graves falls behind, he is reduced to EQ(R) and hoping pray it was enough to make his shitty autos worth it. His harass is unimpressive and pushes like mad.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-22 15:27:22
October 22 2013 15:26 GMT
#5628
Galio new mid fotm pls :
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
October 22 2013 15:27 GMT
#5629
Hey, does anyone of you guys know anything about these handsomenerd LoL sponsorships? They sponsors Xenics Storm since like forever and also sponsor CLG, however I never saw a LoL-team or LoL-related shirt in their store. They can't just completely be betting on cross pollination for their SC2 shirts with these sponsorships?
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
October 22 2013 15:27 GMT
#5630
On October 23 2013 00:23 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 00:18 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 23 2013 00:11 Slusher wrote:
her range wouldn't be an issue if she was a damage threat when you were standing behind minions, as is she is not.

They should revert her back to her prerework kit. I thought the ability to have bouncing auto attacks was pretty cool.


the way the PBE W works sort of reverts this, but I don't think it will help her lane in any way, honestly boomerang blade just needs a much smaller damage drop off.

From what I read from the PBE patch notes, her W damage now drops off after only the first bounce and not after subsequent bounces. I think the initial drop off is more severe than on live though.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 22 2013 15:31 GMT
#5631
On October 23 2013 00:26 Lylat wrote:
Galio new mid fotm pls :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z-7XYvtcjc


I still play Galio every once in a while when I just want to be a monster beast who doesn't care about anything. Bulwark is still absolutely insane.

I'd love to see what rune page/masteries he's running. And he's maxing W second, which I don't do, but is an awesome idea.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
October 22 2013 15:31 GMT
#5632
On October 23 2013 00:27 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 00:23 Slusher wrote:
On October 23 2013 00:18 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 23 2013 00:11 Slusher wrote:
her range wouldn't be an issue if she was a damage threat when you were standing behind minions, as is she is not.

They should revert her back to her prerework kit. I thought the ability to have bouncing auto attacks was pretty cool.


the way the PBE W works sort of reverts this, but I don't think it will help her lane in any way, honestly boomerang blade just needs a much smaller damage drop off.

From what I read from the PBE patch notes, her W damage now drops off after only the first bounce and not after subsequent bounces. I think the initial drop off is more severe than on live though.

It also last for 3 attacks instead of the next one.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 22 2013 15:39 GMT
#5633
yea the uptime is somewhat high(3 attacks every 5 sec) also the bounce drop off scales with levels rank 5 I think all bounces do 80% which isn't bad, but anything outside of buffing her range of buffing her q will still cause her to lose lane the majority of the time, and buffing Q is far more interesting than buffing range (not to mention her lategame with the new W would be pretty silly with a range buff)
Carrilord has arrived.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
October 22 2013 15:43 GMT
#5634
On October 23 2013 00:04 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 00:02 nafta wrote:
On October 23 2013 00:00 Requizen wrote:
On October 22 2013 23:58 oneofthem wrote:
On October 22 2013 20:27 Redox wrote:
screenshot from s4 testing:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/q71/s720x720/1380810_754690987879596_1733510948_n.jpg

Supports with actual items, and no wards in inventory. Hm.

ezrael wtih even more attack speed? the horrors

Honestly, while he's still good they really took a lot off of his W over that series of nerfs, so I wouldn't be surprised for there to be compensations or changes. AS Debuff was really bullshit, though.

He is in a perfect spot.Honestly other than sivir all ad-s are in a good place.

Eh, I feel like MF and Kog could use some love, though they still have their niches.

Also I don't know if you were counting Quinn in that list or not. She's fine anywhere but AD duo imo.

MF is what no ad should be so it's good that she isn't that strong.Kog is fine imo.He just not played cause no escape vs assassins is too hard.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 22 2013 15:45 GMT
#5635
MF will see play if you can actually force 5v5s in s4
Carrilord has arrived.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 22 2013 15:53 GMT
#5636
--- Nuked ---
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-22 15:59:21
October 22 2013 15:54 GMT
#5637
he means Galio's W skill.

I got a kick out of the part where Ezreal is autoing him in ult thus making his Riven take more damage lol
Carrilord has arrived.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 22 2013 15:56 GMT
#5638
Wouldn't SV be a stupendous buy on Galio?
It's your boy Guzma!
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 22 2013 15:57 GMT
#5639
Galio is the most immovable piece of crap in lane. So hard to deal with, I'm so glad more people don't play him x.x
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 22 2013 15:57 GMT
#5640
On October 23 2013 00:56 Requizen wrote:
Wouldn't SV be a stupendous buy on Galio?


I mean, yes, but you can just build Chalice + Abyssal + Mercs and actually have damage PLUS benefit from your passive.

Add some armor onto that, and anyone attacking you with Bulwark on just heals you.
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