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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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TheLink
Australia2725 Posts
On October 23 2013 01:00 Slusher wrote: he's actually really good vs. Fizz, his dot will put you to the max W heal if he autos you ~2 times. But then you have to endure the sheer embarassment when you Ult with a fish on you. | ||
GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On October 23 2013 01:03 TheLink wrote: But then you have to endure the sheer embarassment when you Ult with a fish on you. I'd have to put this in the same category as Ori ulting after the ball snaps back. (we've all done it) | ||
Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On October 23 2013 01:06 Slusher wrote: I'd have to put this in the same category as Ori ulting after the ball snaps back. (we've all done it) God that is the worst fucking feeling, when you shield the renek and he does a 2x slice n dice and you're like WE'RE SO DOING THIS SHIT then 0 man ulti cause he went too far. | ||
Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On October 23 2013 00:31 jcarlsoniv wrote: I still play Galio every once in a while when I just want to be a monster beast who doesn't care about anything. Bulwark is still absolutely insane. I'd love to see what rune page/masteries he's running. And he's maxing W second, which I don't do, but is an awesome idea. W second was always better. ![]() If Galio becomes FotM we can probably expect Lulu and hypercarries other than Vayne to come back as well. Lulu Ult + Shield + Galio's Bulwark is an insane amount of protection for a carry, even without accounting for Idol of Durand. | ||
Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On October 23 2013 01:24 Seuss wrote: W second was always better. ![]() If Galio becomes FotM we can probably expect Lulu and hypercarries other than Vayne to come back as well. Lulu Ult + Shield + Galio's Bulwark is an insane amount of protection for a carry, even without accounting for Idol of Durand. Janna too, she's always been quite the annoyance for Galio. I also like picking Udyr into Galio lol. Bear stance -> ult huehue | ||
jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On October 23 2013 01:24 Seuss wrote: W second was always better. ![]() If Galio becomes FotM we can probably expect Lulu and hypercarries other than Vayne to come back as well. Lulu Ult + Shield + Galio's Bulwark is an insane amount of protection for a carry, even without accounting for Idol of Durand. oops :3 Galio had been my go to when people first pick fizz or LB and I don't feel like playing Annie into it. He really is still quite good. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21243 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On October 23 2013 01:37 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Galio is severely limited by his Flash CD, more so than many other heroes. If you're relying on him purely for initiation, sure. But he's similar to Annie in this regard. In the current meta, everyone is diving your squishies anyway. Why not pick someone who won't blow up immediately, and at the same time can counter initiate and protect your AD carry? Also, he just has tons of utility and poke with Q and E (although somewhat mana dependent - solved by chalice). Is he top tier? No. But he's certainly better than the number of people who play him would suggest. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21243 Posts
On October 23 2013 01:41 jcarlsoniv wrote: If you're relying on him purely for initiation, sure. But he's similar to Annie in this regard. In the current meta, everyone is diving your squishies anyway. Why not pick someone who won't blow up immediately, and at the same time can counter initiate and protect your AD carry? Also, he just has tons of utility and poke with Q and E (although somewhat mana dependent - solved by chalice). Is he top tier? No. But he's certainly better than the number of people who play him would suggest. Counter initiation on Galio is a huge waste, you want to flash in and gib their squishies; everyone diving has a shitton of tenacity anyways and you're barely gonna touch them. If you're playing mid Galio you're trying to be a damage threat on top of utility, you can't just settle for ulting a couple of tanky divers in most of the situations, unless your AD magically got legendarily fed on his own before team fights started. | ||
Seuss
United States10536 Posts
If you don't have your Flash, sitting on top of your carry so when Fizz/Zed/et al go for them they have an additional 90 Armor/MR, a speed boost, slowed divers, and a patient taunt is acceptable. | ||
jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On October 23 2013 01:43 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Counter initiation on Galio is a huge waste, you want to flash in and gib their squishies; everyone diving has a shitton of tenacity anyways and you're barely gonna touch them. If you're playing mid Galio you're trying to be a damage threat on top of utility, you can't just settle for ulting a couple of tanky divers in most of the situations, unless your AD magically got legendarily fed on his own before team fights started. On October 23 2013 01:52 Seuss wrote: If you have your Flash, go for that Flash ult. If you don't have your Flash, sitting on top of your carry so when Fizz/Zed/et al go for them they have an additional 90 Armor/MR, a speed boost, slowed divers, and a patient taunt is acceptable. Exactly. Obviously Flash ult is the ideal situation. Same deal with Annie - flash tibbers for instagib carry is ideal, but not always necessarily available. If you're ulting to counter initiate, you've now created a zone that their back line can't walk through. This forces them to wait or to blow CC on you (which is CC that isn't being used on your carry). You're tanky enough to withstand this, and if your back line + your ult can do enough to their divers, then you can pursue their back line. Saying Galio is completely reliant on flash is just flat wrong. | ||
Gahlo
United States35157 Posts
Please stop talking about Galio. It makes me take more time to skim your posts because I think people are talking about me. Sincerely, Galio + Show Spoiler + Fuck. | ||
WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On October 23 2013 02:03 Gahlo wrote: Dear TL, Please stop talking about Galio. It makes me take more time to skim your posts because I think people are talking about me. Sincerely, Galio + Show Spoiler + Fuck. Get used to it. I used to double-take every time people talked about clearing waves. | ||
Alaric
France45622 Posts
On October 23 2013 00:39 Slusher wrote: yea the uptime is somewhat high(3 attacks every 5 sec) also the bounce drop off scales with levels rank 5 I think all bounces do 80% which isn't bad, but anything outside of buffing her range of buffing her q will still cause her to lose lane the majority of the time, and buffing Q is far more interesting than buffing range (not to mention her lategame with the new W would be pretty silly with a range buff) Less than that, the cd starts after you use all attacks. So assuming you've got 1 AS, it's 3 attacks every 8s. And that's what I mentioned when I compared Morgana to Galio. With so much goddamn mobility (/tenacity), if you don't have Flash you're better off peeling divers. | ||
Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On October 23 2013 02:05 WaveofShadow wrote: Get used to it. I used to double-take every time people talked about clearing waves. I'd totally clear your wave if you catch my drift | ||
oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On October 23 2013 02:03 Gahlo wrote: Dear TL, Please stop talking about Galio. It makes me take more time to skim your posts because I think people are talking about me. Sincerely, Galio + Show Spoiler + Fuck. i just noticed you are not gahlo wait what i mean galio | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21243 Posts
On October 23 2013 01:59 jcarlsoniv wrote: Exactly. Obviously Flash ult is the ideal situation. Same deal with Annie - flash tibbers for instagib carry is ideal, but not always necessarily available. If you're ulting to counter initiate, you've now created a zone that their back line can't walk through. This forces them to wait or to blow CC on you (which is CC that isn't being used on your carry). You're tanky enough to withstand this, and if your back line + your ult can do enough to their divers, then you can pursue their back line. Saying Galio is completely reliant on flash is just flat wrong. They can jus twalk through your taunt since eeryone diving probably has like 50% tenacity it doesn't reapply so realistically you're an ult bot whose ult cc's for 1s ~_~ | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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