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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 22 2013 16:00 GMT
#5641
he's actually really good vs. Fizz, his dot will put you to the max W heal if he autos you ~2 times.
Carrilord has arrived.
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
October 22 2013 16:03 GMT
#5642
On October 23 2013 01:00 Slusher wrote:
he's actually really good vs. Fizz, his dot will put you to the max W heal if he autos you ~2 times.


But then you have to endure the sheer embarassment when you Ult with a fish on you.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 22 2013 16:04 GMT
#5643
I'm now starting to like Galio more.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 22 2013 16:06 GMT
#5644
On October 23 2013 01:03 TheLink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 01:00 Slusher wrote:
he's actually really good vs. Fizz, his dot will put you to the max W heal if he autos you ~2 times.


But then you have to endure the sheer embarassment when you Ult with a fish on you.


I'd have to put this in the same category as Ori ulting after the ball snaps back. (we've all done it)
Carrilord has arrived.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
October 22 2013 16:13 GMT
#5645
On October 23 2013 01:06 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 01:03 TheLink wrote:
On October 23 2013 01:00 Slusher wrote:
he's actually really good vs. Fizz, his dot will put you to the max W heal if he autos you ~2 times.


But then you have to endure the sheer embarassment when you Ult with a fish on you.


I'd have to put this in the same category as Ori ulting after the ball snaps back. (we've all done it)

God that is the worst fucking feeling, when you shield the renek and he does a 2x slice n dice and you're like WE'RE SO DOING THIS SHIT then 0 man ulti cause he went too far.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 22 2013 16:24 GMT
#5646
On October 23 2013 00:31 jcarlsoniv wrote:
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On October 23 2013 00:26 Lylat wrote:
Galio new mid fotm pls :


I still play Galio every once in a while when I just want to be a monster beast who doesn't care about anything. Bulwark is still absolutely insane.

I'd love to see what rune page/masteries he's running. And he's maxing W second, which I don't do, but is an awesome idea.


W second was always better.

If Galio becomes FotM we can probably expect Lulu and hypercarries other than Vayne to come back as well. Lulu Ult + Shield + Galio's Bulwark is an insane amount of protection for a carry, even without accounting for Idol of Durand.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 22 2013 16:26 GMT
#5647
On October 23 2013 01:24 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 00:31 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On October 23 2013 00:26 Lylat wrote:
Galio new mid fotm pls :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z-7XYvtcjc


I still play Galio every once in a while when I just want to be a monster beast who doesn't care about anything. Bulwark is still absolutely insane.

I'd love to see what rune page/masteries he's running. And he's maxing W second, which I don't do, but is an awesome idea.


W second was always better.

If Galio becomes FotM we can probably expect Lulu and hypercarries other than Vayne to come back as well. Lulu Ult + Shield + Galio's Bulwark is an insane amount of protection for a carry, even without accounting for Idol of Durand.

Janna too, she's always been quite the annoyance for Galio.

I also like picking Udyr into Galio lol. Bear stance -> ult huehue
It's your boy Guzma!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 22 2013 16:30 GMT
#5648
On October 23 2013 01:24 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 00:31 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On October 23 2013 00:26 Lylat wrote:
Galio new mid fotm pls :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z-7XYvtcjc


I still play Galio every once in a while when I just want to be a monster beast who doesn't care about anything. Bulwark is still absolutely insane.

I'd love to see what rune page/masteries he's running. And he's maxing W second, which I don't do, but is an awesome idea.


W second was always better.

If Galio becomes FotM we can probably expect Lulu and hypercarries other than Vayne to come back as well. Lulu Ult + Shield + Galio's Bulwark is an insane amount of protection for a carry, even without accounting for Idol of Durand.


oops :3

Galio had been my go to when people first pick fizz or LB and I don't feel like playing Annie into it. He really is still quite good.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
October 22 2013 16:37 GMT
#5649
Galio is severely limited by his Flash CD, more so than many other heroes.
TranslatorBaa!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 22 2013 16:41 GMT
#5650
On October 23 2013 01:37 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Galio is severely limited by his Flash CD, more so than many other heroes.


If you're relying on him purely for initiation, sure. But he's similar to Annie in this regard. In the current meta, everyone is diving your squishies anyway. Why not pick someone who won't blow up immediately, and at the same time can counter initiate and protect your AD carry?

Also, he just has tons of utility and poke with Q and E (although somewhat mana dependent - solved by chalice).

Is he top tier? No. But he's certainly better than the number of people who play him would suggest.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
October 22 2013 16:43 GMT
#5651
On October 23 2013 01:41 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 01:37 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Galio is severely limited by his Flash CD, more so than many other heroes.


If you're relying on him purely for initiation, sure. But he's similar to Annie in this regard. In the current meta, everyone is diving your squishies anyway. Why not pick someone who won't blow up immediately, and at the same time can counter initiate and protect your AD carry?

Also, he just has tons of utility and poke with Q and E (although somewhat mana dependent - solved by chalice).

Is he top tier? No. But he's certainly better than the number of people who play him would suggest.


Counter initiation on Galio is a huge waste, you want to flash in and gib their squishies; everyone diving has a shitton of tenacity anyways and you're barely gonna touch them. If you're playing mid Galio you're trying to be a damage threat on top of utility, you can't just settle for ulting a couple of tanky divers in most of the situations, unless your AD magically got legendarily fed on his own before team fights started.
TranslatorBaa!
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 22 2013 16:52 GMT
#5652
If you have your Flash, go for that Flash ult.

If you don't have your Flash, sitting on top of your carry so when Fizz/Zed/et al go for them they have an additional 90 Armor/MR, a speed boost, slowed divers, and a patient taunt is acceptable.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 22 2013 16:59 GMT
#5653
On October 23 2013 01:43 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 01:41 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On October 23 2013 01:37 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Galio is severely limited by his Flash CD, more so than many other heroes.


If you're relying on him purely for initiation, sure. But he's similar to Annie in this regard. In the current meta, everyone is diving your squishies anyway. Why not pick someone who won't blow up immediately, and at the same time can counter initiate and protect your AD carry?

Also, he just has tons of utility and poke with Q and E (although somewhat mana dependent - solved by chalice).

Is he top tier? No. But he's certainly better than the number of people who play him would suggest.


Counter initiation on Galio is a huge waste, you want to flash in and gib their squishies; everyone diving has a shitton of tenacity anyways and you're barely gonna touch them. If you're playing mid Galio you're trying to be a damage threat on top of utility, you can't just settle for ulting a couple of tanky divers in most of the situations, unless your AD magically got legendarily fed on his own before team fights started.


On October 23 2013 01:52 Seuss wrote:
If you have your Flash, go for that Flash ult.

If you don't have your Flash, sitting on top of your carry so when Fizz/Zed/et al go for them they have an additional 90 Armor/MR, a speed boost, slowed divers, and a patient taunt is acceptable.


Exactly.

Obviously Flash ult is the ideal situation. Same deal with Annie - flash tibbers for instagib carry is ideal, but not always necessarily available.

If you're ulting to counter initiate, you've now created a zone that their back line can't walk through. This forces them to wait or to blow CC on you (which is CC that isn't being used on your carry). You're tanky enough to withstand this, and if your back line + your ult can do enough to their divers, then you can pursue their back line.

Saying Galio is completely reliant on flash is just flat wrong.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
October 22 2013 17:03 GMT
#5654
Dear TL,

Please stop talking about Galio. It makes me take more time to skim your posts because I think people are talking about me.

Sincerely,
Galio
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Fuck.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 22 2013 17:05 GMT
#5655
On October 23 2013 02:03 Gahlo wrote:
Dear TL,

Please stop talking about Galio. It makes me take more time to skim your posts because I think people are talking about me.

Sincerely,
Galio
+ Show Spoiler +
Fuck.

Get used to it.
I used to double-take every time people talked about clearing waves.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 22 2013 17:06 GMT
#5656
On October 23 2013 00:39 Slusher wrote:
yea the uptime is somewhat high(3 attacks every 5 sec) also the bounce drop off scales with levels rank 5 I think all bounces do 80% which isn't bad, but anything outside of buffing her range of buffing her q will still cause her to lose lane the majority of the time, and buffing Q is far more interesting than buffing range (not to mention her lategame with the new W would be pretty silly with a range buff)

Less than that, the cd starts after you use all attacks. So assuming you've got 1 AS, it's 3 attacks every 8s.

And that's what I mentioned when I compared Morgana to Galio. With so much goddamn mobility (/tenacity), if you don't have Flash you're better off peeling divers.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 22 2013 17:07 GMT
#5657
On October 23 2013 02:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 02:03 Gahlo wrote:
Dear TL,

Please stop talking about Galio. It makes me take more time to skim your posts because I think people are talking about me.

Sincerely,
Galio
+ Show Spoiler +
Fuck.

Get used to it.
I used to double-take every time people talked about clearing waves.

I'd totally clear your wave if you catch my drift
A backwards poet writes inverse.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-22 17:15:36
October 22 2013 17:15 GMT
#5658
On October 23 2013 02:03 Gahlo wrote:
Dear TL,

Please stop talking about Galio. It makes me take more time to skim your posts because I think people are talking about me.

Sincerely,
Galio
+ Show Spoiler +
Fuck.

i just noticed you are not gahlo

wait what i mean galio
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-22 17:18:13
October 22 2013 17:17 GMT
#5659
On October 23 2013 01:59 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 01:43 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On October 23 2013 01:41 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On October 23 2013 01:37 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Galio is severely limited by his Flash CD, more so than many other heroes.


If you're relying on him purely for initiation, sure. But he's similar to Annie in this regard. In the current meta, everyone is diving your squishies anyway. Why not pick someone who won't blow up immediately, and at the same time can counter initiate and protect your AD carry?

Also, he just has tons of utility and poke with Q and E (although somewhat mana dependent - solved by chalice).

Is he top tier? No. But he's certainly better than the number of people who play him would suggest.


Counter initiation on Galio is a huge waste, you want to flash in and gib their squishies; everyone diving has a shitton of tenacity anyways and you're barely gonna touch them. If you're playing mid Galio you're trying to be a damage threat on top of utility, you can't just settle for ulting a couple of tanky divers in most of the situations, unless your AD magically got legendarily fed on his own before team fights started.


Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 01:52 Seuss wrote:
If you have your Flash, go for that Flash ult.

If you don't have your Flash, sitting on top of your carry so when Fizz/Zed/et al go for them they have an additional 90 Armor/MR, a speed boost, slowed divers, and a patient taunt is acceptable.


Exactly.

Obviously Flash ult is the ideal situation. Same deal with Annie - flash tibbers for instagib carry is ideal, but not always necessarily available.

If you're ulting to counter initiate, you've now created a zone that their back line can't walk through. This forces them to wait or to blow CC on you (which is CC that isn't being used on your carry). You're tanky enough to withstand this, and if your back line + your ult can do enough to their divers, then you can pursue their back line.

Saying Galio is completely reliant on flash is just flat wrong.



They can jus twalk through your taunt since eeryone diving probably has like 50% tenacity it doesn't reapply so realistically you're an ult bot whose ult cc's for 1s ~_~
TranslatorBaa!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 22 2013 17:21 GMT
#5660
You still need Flash when you're using Galio to counter-initiate unless you plan to only ult 1 guy. Having Flash in that scenario lets you catch some of the mid-range enemy heroes, and not just the divers. If you're only ulting the divers, you're not going to get enough out of the ulti.
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