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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
Seriously though, destroying people with near permanent run speed + attack speed while catching freaking axes? How badass is that? I probably sucked with him compared to what real dravens can do, but I had fun and wrecked. Oh, also. Lolrecorder sucks. My game wouldnt start up at the beginning of matches because lolrecorder was stopping it somehow. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On October 22 2013 15:21 GhandiEAGLE wrote: He might even be broken if that were the case. Although I would still like that and nerf his numbers very slightly, because it would make the whole champion much more cohesive. It's one of the major reasons he didn't click for me. His W in theory should be a seamless kiting/chasing tool, but in practice having to stop to cast it and auto makes it awkward. Not completely useless, just really, really awkward. It feels like running into a speed bump on a racing course. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On October 22 2013 15:18 wei2coolman wrote: You're not playing garen correctly then. Yeah, I'm not using his vortex spell correctly. Only reason I can think of the squishies wouldn't be standing on top of each other. | ||
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HughMyron
297 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
watch on op.gg | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On October 22 2013 15:35 Seuss wrote: It's one of the major reasons he didn't click for me. His W in theory should be a seamless kiting/chasing tool, but in practice having to stop to cast it and auto makes it awkward. Not completely useless, just really, really awkward. It feels like running into a speed bump on a racing course. I did find it really fun to shoot W, Ult, and dash backwards with E all at once and seem incredibly cool, and I think if that could work on all points of the spell then Lucian would really be brought into the spotlight. That said, I still find him the most and interesting adc, he's one of the only ones that can consistently duel a Riven. On October 22 2013 15:58 oneofthem wrote: seems like there's a scrim between skt2 and xenic going on now. beelzehan changed his name to "rtey" watch on op.gg Link pls desu | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
and click on the watch button between the two team's lineups. i'm not sure which game version this is because i haven't updated in a few days. game's basically much aggression many kills skt2 strong | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On October 22 2013 03:04 NeoIllusions wrote: Please don't make shit posts like this. All you're doing is perpetuating hearsay. To be honest I think you are severely overreacting | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On October 22 2013 11:49 Seuss wrote: Actually, Corrupted Soil is pretty awkward these days. If your opponent has a way to demolish your melee minions they can really screw up your pool placement. It used to be the most godly waveclear in the game because there were basically zero champions who could do that, but not anymore. Even in her prime there were a bunch of champs who could screw her rather easily, dedicated pushers like Malz, Morde, Heimerdinger, Galio, Brand after his first back, etc. (Lux could too, took a bit more time though. And the fact that a lot of champs built RoA 1st item back then also played into that situation, since Morg clears off of base damage and they all skipped AP early.) Obviously they weren't all optimal/viable in competitive play at that time, but in pubs? That'd be like saying "Karthus is OP, can't stop his farming and he scales hard QQ" while ignoring that Syndra, LB, Veigar, Talon, etc. exist (a few months ago I'd have said Fizz/Ahri but they're FotM now). On October 22 2013 12:40 Maxyim wrote: Awesome, thanks! Also looking at adding Trynd (top or jung if they have a strong counter-jungler when it comes to ranked, yeah Fiddle is super easy to mess with) into my repetoire, what do you think about that? Also, what are your recommendations on backup mid and AD carries to train on in case TF / Corki get banned in games. Not interested in Ezregaybait, way too common imo. Maybe Ahri and Varus? Maybe Anivia as well for the lols... I'd say Orianna since she's more teamfight-oriented than TF and does well against assassins (who TF's weak against) in general (I believe Diana too? I find her fun to play, and her ult mechanic makes it easy to roam, no huge cd). If you want a backup in the "another pusher/roamer" sense, Kassadin, Ahri, Fizz all strong roamers, all banned often though, and only Ahri really pushes. Ziggs can assist fights from super far with his ult, his passive rewards auto-ing like TF does, and he pushes/pokes super well. And a veteran will like ou (5HIT I think?). On October 22 2013 13:45 GhandiEAGLE wrote: His ult is good, honestly. It's not fantastic but it really is underrated. It doesn't have the same dps as his autoattacks, but until people stop seeing it like that they wont see how useful it is. Autoattacks cant be shot while moving/dashing, and they don't allow you to be able to deal damage from anywhere in the fight. "It's too hard to hit Pantheon's ult, you need to cast behind them it's not intuitive, and you scale badly because without escape you can't dive 1v5 and assassinate late game, waaah!" Well maybe because that's simply not how the champion's supposed to be played, duh? >< Gets me so annoyed when people refuse to switch on their brain or adapt their playstyle, because I'm afraid if they complain enough Riot might listen to them. | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
Hue, but you cant deny that jinx outclasses lucian in most aspects | ||
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
On October 22 2013 15:28 TheRabidDeer wrote: HOLY SHIT DRAVEN IS FUN! Though probably really hard in a ranked game instead of ARAM. Seriously though, destroying people with near permanent run speed + attack speed while catching freaking axes? How badass is that? I probably sucked with him compared to what real dravens can do, but I had fun and wrecked. Oh, also. Lolrecorder sucks. My game wouldnt start up at the beginning of matches because lolrecorder was stopping it somehow. Draven is really good in lane, though the change to his passive made it less pronounced. He does so much damage early with those spinning axes. He needs to snowball to be relevant late though. His lane match ups seem to be decided much more by the enemy support rather than the adc compared to other marksmen (e.g. he can't ever catch an axe vs Nami). I think he is highly underrated and has a lot of damage potential. Having two spinning axes up for any period does a tonne of damage, but it is ridiculously hard to do in team fights. A shame he has fallen off the competitive map, pros could get a lot out of him. I remember being really impressed with Wild Turtle Draven for example. Just ham all day. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
The only champ I really lose lane to is Malzahar and the only other matchup I have a hard time with is Orianna, maaaaaybe Diana. She's really not as bad as people make her out to be. Her sustain is crazy and her ult is strong and as much as she might be reliant on hitting Q, it is a really strong spell on a reasonable cooldown. It's also the exact same missile speed as Amumu bandage so it's not THAT hard to hit. I do draw target bans in inhouses with her as well. Not that it makes her a better champ, but I seriously think she's fine up until pro level. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On October 22 2013 15:53 UniversalSnip wrote: Yeah, I'm not using his vortex spell correctly. Only reason I can think of the squishies wouldn't be standing on top of each other. Or perhaps you aren't playing him correctly, for real | ||
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
I promise I will not say Lucian is bad ever again (just watched a Lucian beat a jinx with a score of 7/0) | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23442 Posts
On October 22 2013 17:00 SnK-Arcbound wrote: Kill the witch. We'll know if he's a witch if he weighs more than a phoenix udyr. The SAME or maokai | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On October 22 2013 18:58 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: And on the topic of Morgana, I think she's in a fine spot where she is and fuck off don't change her unless you're adding damage or reducing cooldowns. The only champ I really lose lane to is Malzahar and the only other matchup I have a hard time with is Orianna, maaaaaybe Diana. She's really not as bad as people make her out to be. Her sustain is crazy and her ult is strong and as much as she might be reliant on hitting Q, it is a really strong spell on a reasonable cooldown. It's also the exact same missile speed as Amumu bandage so it's not THAT hard to hit. I do draw target bans in inhouses with her as well. Not that it makes her a better champ, but I seriously think she's fine up until pro level. How do you play versus Syndra? I tend to get shut down, and my shield is like a neglect-able factor that she just bursts through like cake. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23442 Posts
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
On October 22 2013 20:03 Sponkz wrote: How do you play versus Syndra? I tend to get shut down, and my shield is like a neglect-able factor that she just bursts through like cake. As a Syndra player, I hate it when the Morgana just farms at turret, as in very little pushing at all. Then call in your jungler. Morgana shield makes it hard to get a stun off and escape a gank. Syndra isn't the best roamer (not bad, but certainly not as good as other mids), so keep that in mind. Once you get some items, you can start pushing again. Play safe early (1-9 ish) Don't ever go near minions. Your short range will mean you'll get harassed and bullied to death. Never go for a fight either, a 3 (or even 4 or 5 if they are good) sphere ult will burst your shield very quickly. | ||
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