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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 22 2013 04:09 GMT
#5561
On October 22 2013 12:58 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 12:46 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Lucian is a solid pick.


I'm pretty sure this isn't the LoL joke thread.

You wanna take this outside?
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
October 22 2013 04:09 GMT
#5562
On October 22 2013 12:58 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 12:46 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Lucian is a solid pick.


I'm pretty sure this isn't the LoL joke thread.



anything hero wins in korea tournament is a solid pick lol
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
October 22 2013 04:15 GMT
#5563
On October 22 2013 11:39 miicah wrote:
Disagree heavily about ori needing a good 'ball champ' to do well. Do you guys actually play her? Yes having a Zac/Malph/j4 makes it easier to get off a nice ult, but it is not that much more difficult to do without a diver.


If even pros of this game miss Ori ults without a good ball champ, can I not make the same complaint?
Hey! How you doin'?
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
October 22 2013 04:37 GMT
#5564
On October 22 2013 12:58 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 12:46 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Lucian is a solid pick.


I'm pretty sure this isn't the LoL joke thread.

Lucian's ok. His ult is a joke though.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
October 22 2013 04:44 GMT
#5565
I can see Lucian being a good reactionary pick purely off of the power of his slow-cleansing dash.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 22 2013 04:45 GMT
#5566
His ult is good, honestly. It's not fantastic but it really is underrated. It doesn't have the same dps as his autoattacks, but until people stop seeing it like that they wont see how useful it is. Autoattacks cant be shot while moving/dashing, and they don't allow you to be able to deal damage from anywhere in the fight.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 22 2013 04:48 GMT
#5567
On October 22 2013 13:15 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 11:39 miicah wrote:
Disagree heavily about ori needing a good 'ball champ' to do well. Do you guys actually play her? Yes having a Zac/Malph/j4 makes it easier to get off a nice ult, but it is not that much more difficult to do without a diver.


If even pros of this game miss Ori ults without a good ball champ, can I not make the same complaint?

Pros miss Ori ults because they think they have a ball champ but they break the tether.
Freeeeeeedom
TyrantPotato
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1541 Posts
October 22 2013 05:14 GMT
#5568
I saw a game from the na challeneger tournie i think where lucian was built with double armor pen in black cleaver and last whisper iirc, where is ult was used to zone the other team off their towers during sieges. Was quite entertaining to watch and supports the case where lucian may be considered a legit pick for siege comps.
Forever ZeNEX.
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
October 22 2013 05:41 GMT
#5569
im on a fucking tear right now. 1 game from gold 4 promos.. THE CLIMB IS HAPPENING DIAMOND HERE I COME
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-22 05:45:45
October 22 2013 05:44 GMT
#5570
On October 22 2013 13:45 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
His ult is good, honestly. It's not fantastic but it really is underrated. It doesn't have the same dps as his autoattacks, but until people stop seeing it like that they wont see how useful it is. Autoattacks cant be shot while moving/dashing, and they don't allow you to be able to deal damage from anywhere in the fight.

This. OH IT DOES LESS DAMAGE THAN AUTOS is such a stupid argument when that's not even the point of it.
BW -> League -> CSGO
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
October 22 2013 05:51 GMT
#5571
Cait ult does less damage than auto's. Obv bad champ. Actually it always annoys me when people Q at the wrong times too when auto's would have done more damage.

I quite like Lucian and I usually hate hipster champs. He trades really well in lane, has a freaking huge dash and while his burst isn't great he has strong chase/execute to keep his kill potential up.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 22 2013 05:58 GMT
#5572
On October 22 2013 14:44 wussleeQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 13:45 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
His ult is good, honestly. It's not fantastic but it really is underrated. It doesn't have the same dps as his autoattacks, but until people stop seeing it like that they wont see how useful it is. Autoattacks cant be shot while moving/dashing, and they don't allow you to be able to deal damage from anywhere in the fight.

This. OH IT DOES LESS DAMAGE THAN AUTOS is such a stupid argument when that's not even the point of it.

The reason his ulti bugs me is that if you're leashing correctly with other ADCs the dps is way higher. His ulti is almost like a crutch for ADC's who want to deal damage, but aren't good enough to kite correctly.
liftlift > tsm
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-22 06:00:53
October 22 2013 06:00 GMT
#5573
sometimes you HAVE to just keep running though and this gives you an option to run while also dpsing. Are you able to attack safely now? Turn off ulti start autoing.
BW -> League -> CSGO
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 22 2013 06:01 GMT
#5574
On October 22 2013 14:58 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 14:44 wussleeQ wrote:
On October 22 2013 13:45 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
His ult is good, honestly. It's not fantastic but it really is underrated. It doesn't have the same dps as his autoattacks, but until people stop seeing it like that they wont see how useful it is. Autoattacks cant be shot while moving/dashing, and they don't allow you to be able to deal damage from anywhere in the fight.

This. OH IT DOES LESS DAMAGE THAN AUTOS is such a stupid argument when that's not even the point of it.

The reason his ulti bugs me is that if you're leashing correctly with other ADCs the dps is way higher. His ulti is almost like a crutch for ADC's who want to deal damage, but aren't good enough to kite correctly.

It's absurdly good vs dives. It's actually quite a strong pick for the meta. Nobody can kite that effectively with that much damage that early in the game.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
October 22 2013 06:05 GMT
#5575
Wukong ult and Garen's E do as much/barely more damage than autos. Bad champs gg.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 22 2013 06:09 GMT
#5576
On October 22 2013 15:05 obesechicken13 wrote:
Wukong ult and Garen's E do as much/barely more damage than autos. Bad champs gg.

They scale off aoe.
liftlift > tsm
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 22 2013 06:15 GMT
#5577
Well, when Garen actually manages to hit two people 9/10 times one or both is a tank and takes no damage
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 22 2013 06:18 GMT
#5578
On October 22 2013 15:15 UniversalSnip wrote:
Well, when Garen actually manages to hit two people 9/10 times one or both is a tank and takes no damage

You're not playing garen correctly then.
liftlift > tsm
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 22 2013 06:20 GMT
#5579
I've said it a million times now, but all the arguments about Lucian would die out if he could cast his W while moving.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 22 2013 06:21 GMT
#5580
He might even be broken if that were the case. Although I would still like that and nerf his numbers very slightly, because it would make the whole champion much more cohesive.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
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