EPT[Patch 3.12] (j/k) Jinx General Discussion - Page 244
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Slayer91
Ireland23442 Posts
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On October 18 2013 06:40 ManBaker wrote: Oh. I'm sure you're much more qualified than another random person on the internet Who are you again? He really doesn't know what he's talking about. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23442 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
Do you even watch this game? | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On October 18 2013 06:53 xes wrote: Are you really saying League is action heavy? Do you even watch this game? 3v1s are exciting as shit | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On October 18 2013 06:47 oneofthem wrote: it's not about being jealous of lol. the doto patch is heavily designed to buff heroes that make action happen, shorten games, get people out of jungles, nerf split pushing. some of the random changes like rosh are basically there to add more drama for spectators. I will respond in length to this in off-topic if you want, but I think your view of the patch is very off/misguided, especially with regards to the LoL comparison. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
It's incredibly significant and I think it's a shame a lot of people won't recognise it. The only step up from this is probably Riot just becoming an ISP and providing free internet for everyone to play their game. No doubt it's been something they've decided they need to do because of all the issues that they've had with ISPs before like Virgin. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22648 Posts
On October 18 2013 07:11 MoonBear wrote: It's incredibly significant and I think it's a shame a lot of people won't recognise it. The only step up from this is probably Riot just becoming an ISP and providing free internet for everyone to play their game. No doubt it's been something they've decided they need to do because of all the issues that they've had with ISPs before like Virgin. Yeah its really interesting what exactly they mean by this. There really isn't all that much to manage before the players arrive at your server unless your maintaining the actual network Oo | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On October 18 2013 07:16 Gorsameth wrote: Yeah its really interesting what exactly they mean by this. There really isn't all that much to manage before the players arrive at your server unless your maintaining the actual network Oo I thought they were going to pay networks to edit their routing tables for Riot. Not even sure if that's possible. | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On October 18 2013 06:53 xes wrote: Are you really saying League is action heavy? Do you even watch this game? is it sarcasm or? can't detect | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On October 18 2013 07:11 MoonBear wrote: It's incredibly significant and I think it's a shame a lot of people won't recognise it. The only step up from this is probably Riot just becoming an ISP and providing free internet for everyone to play their game. No doubt it's been something they've decided they need to do because of all the issues that they've had with ISPs before like Virgin. Will this make them more or less able to deal with the load of the replay system, which has been stated as the reason it can't yet be deployed? I'm not versed enough about how network traffic is handled to know if something other than just the raw bandwidth numbers can help solve the issue. | ||
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Cr4zyH0r5e
Peru1308 Posts
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On October 18 2013 07:11 MoonBear wrote: It's incredibly significant and I think it's a shame a lot of people won't recognise it. The only step up from this is probably Riot just becoming an ISP and providing free internet for everyone to play their game. No doubt it's been something they've decided they need to do because of all the issues that they've had with ISPs before like Virgin. Next news: Riot partners with all the internet providers to provide you an internet package dedicating for LoL only. With $5/month, you can have internet to play only LoL (no surfing web and stuffs) from a wide variety of networks, such as cable, dsl, adsl, satelite, 3G, 4G,.... | ||
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Amarok
Australia2003 Posts
On October 18 2013 06:42 red_ wrote: He really doesn't know what he's talking about. What's silly is the idea that either game balances "to shake up the competitive hero pool". Both games are balanced in an attempt to make the games more enjoyable to play, not just for the sake of changing things up at a competitive level. Whether or not any given change is successful in that regard is obviously debatable. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
League feels much more strategic than tactical (though take this judgement with a grain of salt because I've only watched TI3) compared to DotA which basically means it is much less action heavy. My old BW friend who moved to DotA complains that League is just really boring to watch since going for lots of skirmishes and kills is a high risk medium reward strategy whereas if you can pull off objective control to precision it becomes low risk high reward. The only exciting series at Worlds was Fnatic vs Royal because Fnatic plays for kills and at the same time Royal won games while behind in gold. Everything else was, from a casual perspective, incredibly boring. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
if i'm forced to watch say the entire LCS season i'll probably come to a different conclusion, but so far teams like KTB and SKT tend to finish their games pretty fast and with plays all over the map. also about this On October 18 2013 07:23 Amarok wrote: What's silly is the idea that either game balances "to shake up the competitive hero pool". Both games are balanced in an attempt to make the games more enjoyable to play, not just for the sake of changing things up at a competitive level. Whether or not any given change is successful in that regard is obviously debatable. they address both. for example, the trilane and jungling changes are largely competitive balance changes, while stuff like slark and bloodseeker changes are just there for pub experience. dota has always had these lol so random things for people to have fun with, but now they are purposefully breaking free of the wc3 engine limitation to implement some of these changes. | ||
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Amarok
Australia2003 Posts
On October 18 2013 07:31 xes wrote: League feels much more strategic than tactical (though take this judgement with a grain of salt because I've only watched TI3) compared to DotA which basically means it is much less action heavy. My old BW friend who moved to DotA complains that League is just really boring to watch since going for lots of skirmishes and kills is a high risk medium reward strategy whereas if you can pull off objective control to precision it becomes low risk high reward. The only exciting series at Worlds was Fnatic vs Royal because Fnatic plays for kills and at the same time Royal won games while behind in gold. Everything else was, from a casual perspective, incredibly boring. Did you not watch Royal vs OMG? SKT/NJBS and C9/Fnatic (first two games) were pretty good as well. I think the worlds games would have been more interesting with a better format. Quarters were either stomps (GB/SKTT1) or matches with teams still not warmed up (NJBS/Gambit, C9/Fnatic). If quarters started with 8 teams who had all warmed up, and were as close as possible to the best 8 teams in the tournament you would have seen better quality matches. Both DotA and LoL have good and bad games/series. That DK v IG game that went nearly 100 minutes was an absolute nightmare to watch (even the casters couldn't sugar coat it). Most boring esports game I've ever seen. At the same time there are some incredibly epic DotA matches. LoL is no different. Royal v OMG g1 was fantastic as was Fnatic v Royal g3 (from memory). | ||
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