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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-13 15:50:10
October 13 2013 15:39 GMT
#3681
Oh? My bad then, I missed that bit. It's weird that they didn't seem too sure about his appearance till a bit before, or didn't have a fixed kit for him yet, considering it wasn't that long ago, then. Or they just straight-up lied about that but I wouldn't see the point over being elusive.

Edit: ya you got confused on that one, early september:
One thing to bear in mind though is that this is a really early preview - this champ's quite a way off. For those wondering this is also a different champion to the one CertainlyT's mentioned he's working on that's a couple of champion releases away.

Jinx is Gypsylord's champion, so CertainlyT's is the next one, and then it can be Ao Shin.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-13 15:44:21
October 13 2013 15:43 GMT
#3682
I don't remember them saying that (being specific about his launch eta) either.
Carrilord has arrived.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 13 2013 15:44 GMT
#3683
with riot japan cranking up they might time the release with that. though i imagine they'd also spend most of the time making weeaboo skins for every single hero available
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 13 2013 15:46 GMT
#3684
On October 14 2013 00:44 oneofthem wrote:
with riot japan cranking up they might time the release with that. though i imagine they'd also spend most of the time making weeaboo skins for every single hero available

Because most of the skins aren't weaboo enough yet
Glorious SEA doto
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-13 15:49:57
October 13 2013 15:49 GMT
#3685
On October 14 2013 00:43 Slusher wrote:
I don't remember them saying that (being specific about his launch eta) either.


http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3814362&page=3#post41108058

This was a week or two before they revealed Jinx as the next champion.

Or I guess maybe he's not talking about Ao Shin, I assumed he was.

PERHAPS I AM BULLSHITTING YOU TL, THIS IS NOT UNUSUAL
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-13 15:52:07
October 13 2013 15:51 GMT
#3686
well that explains my memory I've never read that thread.

I've only read the original "announcment?" thread which was very vauge
Carrilord has arrived.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
October 13 2013 15:53 GMT
#3687
On October 14 2013 00:39 Alaric wrote:
Oh? My bad then, I missed that bit. It's weird that they didn't seem too sure about his appearance till a bit before, or didn't have a fixed kit for him yet, considering it wasn't that long ago, then. Or they just straight-up lied about that but I wouldn't see the point over being elusive.

Edit: ya you got confused on that one, early september:
Show nested quote +
One thing to bear in mind though is that this is a really early preview - this champ's quite a way off. For those wondering this is also a different champion to the one CertainlyT's mentioned he's working on that's a couple of champion releases away.

Jinx is Gypsylord's champion, so CertainlyT's is the next one, and then it can be Ao Shin.



who has a list of which rioter made which hero?
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 13 2013 15:56 GMT
#3688
the wiki has them for previously released heros, I can't seem to find anything saying who's heading up Ao Shin though.
Carrilord has arrived.
NpG)Explosive
Profile Joined January 2003
France994 Posts
October 13 2013 15:58 GMT
#3689
On October 14 2013 00:53 justiceknight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2013 00:39 Alaric wrote:
Oh? My bad then, I missed that bit. It's weird that they didn't seem too sure about his appearance till a bit before, or didn't have a fixed kit for him yet, considering it wasn't that long ago, then. Or they just straight-up lied about that but I wouldn't see the point over being elusive.

Edit: ya you got confused on that one, early september:
One thing to bear in mind though is that this is a really early preview - this champ's quite a way off. For those wondering this is also a different champion to the one CertainlyT's mentioned he's working on that's a couple of champion releases away.

Jinx is Gypsylord's champion, so CertainlyT's is the next one, and then it can be Ao Shin.



who has a list of which rioter made which hero?


The wiki will tell you who designed each hero (under skins and trivia) but I don't think they made a page with the full list.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-13 17:09:57
October 13 2013 16:36 GMT
#3690
On October 14 2013 00:44 oneofthem wrote:
with riot japan cranking up they might time the release with that. though i imagine they'd also spend most of the time making weeaboo skins for every single hero available

Can't be weaboo if the skins are made to appeal to Japanese market.

Played 2 games of Lissandra support in normals yesterday, was pretty fun. Great if you play very Chinese meta, 5 man roam for kills, it's fucking glorious.
liftlift > tsm
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 13 2013 17:18 GMT
#3691
On October 13 2013 21:12 Alaric wrote:
Sivir on PBE:
Show nested quote +
Attack Speed decreased to 0.625 (+1%) from 0.658 (+3.28%)


What's with Riot and marksmen's AS, wtf? How's that not a downright nerf? They could even amp up the ult's AS buff by a flat 20% at all levels and her dps would still be so much weaker than now.


Supposedly this was done to give Riot leeway in shifting more power to Ricochet. At the moment this puts Sivir's numbers way under what they should be (at level 6 Ricochet's steroid barely beats out the base attack speed of carries like Ashe or Tristana). Riot seems to be aware the numbers are too low, so they're looking at increasing the Attack Speed on her ultimate and scaling the damage on Ricochet with ranks.

They explicitly want Sivir to be a CDR focused carry rather than an AS/Crit focused carry. I'm not sure the itemization exists for that at the moment, but it's a interesting goal.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
October 13 2013 17:22 GMT
#3692
Not like they are taking a champ that is played a lot and ruining their place in the game. I don't mind them experimenting on a champ that rarely sees play.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 13 2013 17:34 GMT
#3693
On October 14 2013 02:22 onlywonderboy wrote:
Not like they are taking a champ that is played a lot and ruining their place in the game. I don't mind them experimenting on a champ that rarely sees play.

Well they already did that to ahri, olaf, irelia, etc. etc.
liftlift > tsm
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4168 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-13 17:40:02
October 13 2013 17:39 GMT
#3694
Kind of off-topic but I hope Riot fixes Lux soon, she has high damage, she has tons of utility, she has ridiculous range, she can one combo a champ (she can even one combo more than one), she can clear waves fast, she has very good ulti with approximately no cool down whatsoever, she can initiate fights, she can disengage fights... I mean wtf, they might want to give her vayne;s like ad power while with ap items, so we could say she is complete..
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 13 2013 17:40 GMT
#3695
Na, one of them (Statikk iirc) said that he liked the idea of CDR Sivir being doable, which is different from the team working on her setting up CDR as the intended "standard/core" build on Sivir.
I mean, it's like Lucian: sure he'd work super well with CDR, but there isn't any itemisation for it, and they didn't butcher his straight-up dps for it.

Sivir having the worst AS of every marksman (pre-6, and barring Jinx's Fishbones case which makes up for it with extra range, damage and splash) and a pretty poor auto animation also probably makes her laning even worse versus any lane with ranged harass to drop on her. Since her only way of extending her range is her Q which isn't great for farming (and puts her oom after 3 uses) I don't quite see this iteration playing decently from behind.
Add to that that for some reason Riot seem particularly attached to their claim that Sivir has amongst her unique niches being a pusher, despite all the champions doing better (either because they nuke just as well as her, or not quite as well but with good enough range to be able to freely auto to finish the job, or because they can somewhat keep up with her and then totally overtake her once she runs herself oom), and I'm pretty skeptic about her laning as long as you don't plan on trading with her away from your creep wave.

It boggles my mind that they still claim that, and since they don't seem to have any incentive to lie about it then they probably genuinely believes it, which boggles my mind even more.
I mean, I understand how the current kit can be tweaked with numbers and stuff to give her decent single-target dps while dishing out some AoE as well, but the current iteration is full of holes that simple math can point out and they were still pretty sure of their stuff when they put her out on PBE.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
October 13 2013 17:41 GMT
#3696
I don't really think there's anything wrong with Lux. I would be happy if she was used as the standard for APC power levels. At least she can't completely catch you from a screen away (cough, assassins), she can be countered to a decent degree with better wards and positioning. Was she even played at worlds?
3.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 13 2013 17:45 GMT
#3697
On October 14 2013 02:39 M2 wrote:
Kind of off-topic but I hope Riot fixes Lux soon, she has high damage, she has tons of utility, she has ridiculous range, she can one combo a champ (she can even one combo more than one), she can clear waves fast, she has very good ulti with approximately no cool down whatsoever, she can initiate fights, she can disengage fights... I mean wtf, they might want to give her vayne;s like ad power while with ap items, so we could say she is complete..


I think there's a QQ thread for this.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 13 2013 17:45 GMT
#3698
On October 14 2013 02:39 M2 wrote:
Kind of off-topic but I hope Riot fixes Lux soon, she has high damage, she has tons of utility, she has ridiculous range, she can one combo a champ (she can even one combo more than one), she can clear waves fast, she has very good ulti with approximately no cool down whatsoever, she can initiate fights, she can disengage fights... I mean wtf, they might want to give her vayne;s like ad power while with ap items, so we could say she is complete..


you seem to be the only that thinks lux is still op. I would even consider her weak at the moment.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
October 13 2013 17:48 GMT
#3699
Lux is comp specific. By no means is she a pick-in-any-situation-and-win champ. I know M2 is just QQing, but I'd like to see information why such an "op" champ isn't 100% pick/banned at the highest echelon of play.
Hey! How you doin'?
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
October 13 2013 18:10 GMT
#3700
does anyone know if there's in-lore justification for there being so many terrible summoners.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
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