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Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-13 08:25:16
October 13 2013 08:24 GMT
#3641
I mean this in a serious discussion/question, as I feel like I'm having trouble in solo queue currently, and I'm trying to determine if it's an issue with how I view/rate champions or if it's an issue with my playstyle.

In your opinion, name the best 2/3 champs that can carry a group to victory, for each role, with some room for overlap.

Personally speaking, my champ opinion goes like this:

Top: Jax, Renekton
Jungle: Vi, Zac, Evelynn
Mid: Kassidan, Fizz, Zed
ADC: Jinx, Caitlyn, Ezreal
Support: Nami, Sona

Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9248 Posts
October 13 2013 08:29 GMT
#3642
There's a LAN in Barcelona going on atm with some challenger Spanish teams, I was just checking the stream and happened to hear the most amazing play-by-play casting ever, this guy is a machine gun.

I can't link with with time stamp because it's unlisted and still live, but go back listen to the part from 54:05 to 54:40

+ Show Spoiler +
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-13 08:33:19
October 13 2013 08:32 GMT
#3643
Damn, this guy sounds truly amazing

Someone should cut this bit out and post seperately to reddit
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
October 13 2013 08:35 GMT
#3644
That's horse-racing level commentary, whoa.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 13 2013 08:36 GMT
#3645
What are you guys referring to?
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12038 Posts
October 13 2013 08:38 GMT
#3646
Support: Thresh needs to be in there. Nami and Sona are both fine, but they can't just DESTROY a lane producing doublekills nonstop. BC is also very good against some supports, but should never be firstpicked because otherwise Leona punches your face in.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
October 13 2013 08:38 GMT
#3647
On October 13 2013 17:36 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
What are you guys referring to?


What Dan HH posted above
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 13 2013 08:50 GMT
#3648
On October 13 2013 15:50 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 15:40 [SuNdae] wrote:
I'm a tad confused with all the leagues going on right now.

What was the game ggla vs. quantic earlier?

Where does Quantic play in the first place?

Oh man, I wanna see this game. Anyone got a VoD? I assumed it was NACL but apparently Quantic isn't part of that league lol

It was another tourney. quantic not part of nacl. It started with an A
liftlift > tsm
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 13 2013 08:59 GMT
#3649
On October 13 2013 17:29 Dan HH wrote:
There's a LAN in Barcelona going on atm with some challenger Spanish teams, I was just checking the stream and happened to hear the most amazing play-by-play casting ever, this guy is a machine gun.

I can't link with with time stamp because it's unlisted and still live, but go back listen to the part from 54:05 to 54:40

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-yoEC1k1yk

53:25 is pretty intense as well, then he just calms down like nothing happened
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
October 13 2013 09:21 GMT
#3650
On October 13 2013 17:24 Kinie wrote:
I mean this in a serious discussion/question, as I feel like I'm having trouble in solo queue currently, and I'm trying to determine if it's an issue with how I view/rate champions or if it's an issue with my playstyle.

In your opinion, name the best 2/3 champs that can carry a group to victory, for each role, with some room for overlap.

Personally speaking, my champ opinion goes like this:

Top: Jax, Renekton
Jungle: Vi, Zac, Evelynn
Mid: Kassidan, Fizz, Zed
ADC: Jinx, Caitlyn, Ezreal
Support: Nami, Sona



Depends if you're talking pro or just for Solo queue. At pro level it's pretty obvious (e.g. Zed 100% pick/ban at worlds), but solo queue is different. You're better off playing a champ you like to play. You'll enjoy it more and the wins will come anyway. E.g. my most successful champ of late has been Brand, but he certainly isn't considered a competitive pick at pro level.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-13 09:37:13
October 13 2013 09:32 GMT
#3651
On October 13 2013 17:24 Kinie wrote:
I mean this in a serious discussion/question, as I feel like I'm having trouble in solo queue currently, and I'm trying to determine if it's an issue with how I view/rate champions or if it's an issue with my playstyle.

In your opinion, name the best 2/3 champs that can carry a group to victory, for each role, with some room for overlap.

Personally speaking, my champ opinion goes like this:

Top: Jax, Renekton
Jungle: Vi, Zac, Evelynn
Mid: Kassidan, Fizz, Zed
ADC: Jinx, Caitlyn, Ezreal
Support: Nami, Sona



Top: Jax, Renekton, Shen
Jungle: Vi, Jarvan, AAtrox
Mid: Kassadin, Fizz, Viktor
ADC: Varus, Corki, Counterpick
Support: Nami, Janna, Zyra/Annie

Jax/Renekton should be self explanitory. Shen only if he can ultimate well.

Vi/Jarvan/AAtrox as the best ganking/scaling junglers. Other junglers can be super effective by farming but i like to see those three because i feel like ganking is a little bit preferred now.

Assassins mid and then Viktor because Viktor is trololol OP and fits into any composition

ADC: Varus is top because of his utility and damage, Corki next because of triforce, and then whatever counters the enemy ADC[unless they have one of the few out of lane hard counters like Nasus]because its more important to be ahead relative to the enemy carry than to have a "strong kit"

Nami is the Queen of Poke/Sustain. Sona does a lot of damage but sucks if your carry doesn't know they have to push hard or if your carry is countered in lane and also requires a hard push strategy which is accepted by your entire team. Namis is like Sona but doesn't suck out of lane.

Janna fits into any comp because she is trololol OP. Best scaling, best peel, best counter to the majority of enemy team compositions, not hard countered by any enemy team composition. OP global passive. Only downside... weak against Nami/Annie/Sona in lane.

Zyra just does a lot of damage. Annie is also not bad but Zyra can harass better in lane by just a tad. She is countered by Annie though. And Annie has some of the best hard engage and body block in the game. Same spot because you can't really count the supports with just 3 picks.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 13 2013 09:34 GMT
#3652
On October 13 2013 18:21 JazzVortical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 17:24 Kinie wrote:
I mean this in a serious discussion/question, as I feel like I'm having trouble in solo queue currently, and I'm trying to determine if it's an issue with how I view/rate champions or if it's an issue with my playstyle.

In your opinion, name the best 2/3 champs that can carry a group to victory, for each role, with some room for overlap.

Personally speaking, my champ opinion goes like this:

Top: Jax, Renekton
Jungle: Vi, Zac, Evelynn
Mid: Kassidan, Fizz, Zed
ADC: Jinx, Caitlyn, Ezreal
Support: Nami, Sona



Depends if you're talking pro or just for Solo queue. At pro level it's pretty obvious (e.g. Zed 100% pick/ban at worlds), but solo queue is different. You're better off playing a champ you like to play. You'll enjoy it more and the wins will come anyway. E.g. my most successful champ of late has been Brand, but he certainly isn't considered a competitive pick at pro level.

Roaming assassins are still the best in un co-ordinated yolo queue though since it's so easy to find solo kill pick offs, so many kills I can get on zed or ahri by just sitting in a brush near a minion wave and jumping the ADC when he steps in to farm
Glorious SEA doto
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
October 13 2013 09:46 GMT
#3653
On October 13 2013 18:34 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 18:21 JazzVortical wrote:
On October 13 2013 17:24 Kinie wrote:
I mean this in a serious discussion/question, as I feel like I'm having trouble in solo queue currently, and I'm trying to determine if it's an issue with how I view/rate champions or if it's an issue with my playstyle.

In your opinion, name the best 2/3 champs that can carry a group to victory, for each role, with some room for overlap.

Personally speaking, my champ opinion goes like this:

Top: Jax, Renekton
Jungle: Vi, Zac, Evelynn
Mid: Kassidan, Fizz, Zed
ADC: Jinx, Caitlyn, Ezreal
Support: Nami, Sona



Depends if you're talking pro or just for Solo queue. At pro level it's pretty obvious (e.g. Zed 100% pick/ban at worlds), but solo queue is different. You're better off playing a champ you like to play. You'll enjoy it more and the wins will come anyway. E.g. my most successful champ of late has been Brand, but he certainly isn't considered a competitive pick at pro level.

Roaming assassins are still the best in un co-ordinated yolo queue though since it's so easy to find solo kill pick offs, so many kills I can get on zed or ahri by just sitting in a brush near a minion wave and jumping the ADC when he steps in to farm


True, but most champs can do that.

I will say that if I were to give one champ to carry Solo queue, it would be Kassadin. Rift Walk is so good vs uncoordinated yoloers. Probably why he's banned all the time.

People also used to always say Hecarim was the best solo queue carry. Don't know how true that is nowadays though.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
October 13 2013 10:10 GMT
#3654
On October 13 2013 17:24 Kinie wrote:
I mean this in a serious discussion/question, as I feel like I'm having trouble in solo queue currently, and I'm trying to determine if it's an issue with how I view/rate champions or if it's an issue with my playstyle.

In your opinion, name the best 2/3 champs that can carry a group to victory, for each role, with some room for overlap.

Personally speaking, my champ opinion goes like this:

Top: Jax, Renekton
Jungle: Vi, Zac, Evelynn
Mid: Kassidan, Fizz, Zed
ADC: Jinx, Caitlyn, Ezreal
Support: Nami, Sona





Consider adding fiddle or annie to your support pool. Fiddle cus fear, annie cus bear.
hi
Prog
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom1470 Posts
October 13 2013 10:21 GMT
#3655
On October 13 2013 17:38 Simberto wrote:
Support: Thresh needs to be in there. Nami and Sona are both fine, but they can't just DESTROY a lane producing doublekills nonstop. BC is also very good against some supports, but should never be firstpicked because otherwise Leona punches your face in.


I think Thresh is weak right now. Zyra is currently the queen of botlane and stomps Thresh without even trying.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-13 10:34:32
October 13 2013 10:26 GMT
#3656
On October 13 2013 17:24 Kinie wrote:
I mean this in a serious discussion/question, as I feel like I'm having trouble in solo queue currently, and I'm trying to determine if it's an issue with how I view/rate champions or if it's an issue with my playstyle.

In your opinion, name the best 2/3 champs that can carry a group to victory, for each role, with some room for overlap.

Personally speaking, my champ opinion goes like this:

Top: Jax, Renekton
Jungle: Vi, Zac, Evelynn
Mid: Kassidan, Fizz, Zed
ADC: Jinx, Caitlyn, Ezreal
Support: Nami, Sona


Top : Jax, Riven, Shen
Jungle : Vi, Lee, Eve
Mid : Kassadin, Fizz, Ahri, Zed
ADC : Corki Corki Corki
Supp : Annie, Zyra, Fiddle
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 13 2013 10:32 GMT
#3657
Koreans are faceless robots with no personality!
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-13 11:36:11
October 13 2013 11:35 GMT
#3658
To be fair that's hyun, hyun is a nutter and awesome.
On October 13 2013 19:21 Prog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 17:38 Simberto wrote:
Support: Thresh needs to be in there. Nami and Sona are both fine, but they can't just DESTROY a lane producing doublekills nonstop. BC is also very good against some supports, but should never be firstpicked because otherwise Leona punches your face in.


I think Thresh is weak right now. Zyra is currently the queen of botlane and stomps Thresh without even trying.

Lantern is too good of a get out of retardation free card to overlook in the yolo queues though. I do concur that zyra is the best but thresh is still good in an un co-ordinated environment.
Glorious SEA doto
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
October 13 2013 11:45 GMT
#3659
nobody ever mentions leona

she's probably corki's best laning partner, and when you get ahead as leona you get ahead by MILES. I got my AD carry a kill and one sent back to base after trading kills for double buffs and just went mid at level 5 and fucked up that orianna for some free kills..then you go double kill bot lane..then you go back mid by this point your ad carry is ballin out of control and pooping on these bitches and you go fuck up that bitchass orianna again for free gold

#leonaswag

why don't more people jungle leona, fuck

roffles pls
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 13 2013 11:45 GMT
#3660
because leonas damage output is trash.
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