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UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 01:06:08
October 11 2013 01:03 GMT
#2941
On October 11 2013 09:42 dooraven wrote:
Maknoon to CJ Frost as mid: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/view.php?ud=2013101109055105881


Translation: League of legends popular star Yoon Ha Un (Maknoon) has moved to CJ Entus Frost.

CJ Entus Frost progaming team on the 11th on a press released said they have acquired Maknoon.
Following CJ, Maknoon will join the ranks of Cloudtemplar, shy, rapidstar, Space, and Madlife and his position will be changed to mid.

Maknoon on the 7th wasn't included in the new KT ROlster team and there were rumors of him leaving. He has since signed with CJ Entus.

Maknoon is starting a new challenge. From being a player of League of Legends' infancy, from EDG to KT A, as a top player he has moved his position to mid.

CJ Staff states "Maknoon has joined CJ Entus Frost as mid beginning a new challenge, we hope many of you support maknoon's new challenge"

Dailyesports Nam Yoon Sung reporter
Translation done by UnKooL
LoL: UnKooL and SoloQFiendUnKooL, SC2: UnKooL
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
October 11 2013 01:08 GMT
#2942
I hope the Xerath visuals aren't complete because his spell animations look super wimpy, especially that ult.
Loving Memory
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States70 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 01:22:40
October 11 2013 01:18 GMT
#2943
On October 11 2013 09:48 TheLink wrote:
Curious how the strategy with Ahri/Zyra is to make them more dependent on landing their E. I thought Riot classified it as unfun if you miss a skillshot and then walk away because you're blank for the next 12 seconds.

Also I hope the Morgana thing doesn't happen. It just shows a total lack of understanding of flow, how a champion rotates their abilities is everything to how fun they are to play. If Morgana lands a bind she gets to puddle them full duration which in turn shreds their MR while her ult chain is waiting to detonate which stuns again which allows her to auto-land another bind/pool. That is a smooth flowing kit (albeit weak at the moment). If you make puddle based on missing hp then it doesn't lead into the chain and in fact misses a lot of damage because it dries up when your ult lands.


The really strange thing, in my mind, is their reasoning. The idea that they need to reinforce a pattern like that is...strange.

Edit: This comment is stupid, so let me elaborate. There's no reason for them to throw percentage missing HP damage on a small PBAOE. It doesn't really belong there. I guess it helps her in an AoE comp, which is maybe Riot's goal? I'm not sure she has enough cc to make good use of it without another big ult like amumu or galio to help out.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 01:29:55
October 11 2013 01:29 GMT
#2944
LOL maknoon was spamming ahri. GG roit > maknoon
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 11 2013 01:31 GMT
#2945
Xerath/Heimer changes are REAL interesting.
I'm not sure of this makes Heimer more viable or not honestly because I don't know where he fits atm.
Xerath is all skillshot now, and you can't be in range of anyone when using his ult because you can't do anything but click on the spot you want to target, but you get huge vision range and shit. It's pretty cool.

They also updated the particles on his other skins and stuff so that's pretty awesome too.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 01:33:07
October 11 2013 01:32 GMT
#2946
Why does Riot always feel the need to homogenize everything?

How does forcing Ahri to start every combo with E make gameplay better? Why not just lower ratios or something.... Its kind of like their resistence to lanbing formations that not 1-1-2.
Leeto
Profile Joined August 2007
United States1320 Posts
October 11 2013 01:34 GMT
#2947
Riot balance team just sees what is currently strong and brings out the nerf hammer. There haven't been changes to Ahri or Fizz or Kassadin in a long time but they became popular due to meta shifts. But they don't give the meta time to shift again because they just see OH NO IT'S OP BETTER NERF. Slight tweaks would be fine but Ahri is about to just die..
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 01:48:00
October 11 2013 01:40 GMT
#2948
1) Ahri changes I agree with. Need more data on the passive change to fully understand it, though. Zyra nerfs were necessary. Her base damages are currently just insane. More hits to Corki's base AS are a pretty good way to hit his power (plus CDR interaction with his rockets).

2) Morgana change seems abit iffy but understandable. Mana cost reductions on ultis are a nice QoL change. Swain passive gving %max mana on kill/assist goes a long way to solving his mid-late game mana issues (and may help relieve some of his massive mana consumption). Unsure of Ziggs change.

3) Shen+J4 CC is more difficult to hit. YESYESYESYESYES.

4) OH MAN. They removed the cast-delay/silence for Vlad after his R (preventing him from immediately Q+Eing after casting). POWER SPIKE ACTIVATE. Vlad FotM inc.

On October 11 2013 10:32 iCanada wrote:
Why does Riot always feel the need to homogenize everything?

How does forcing Ahri to start every combo with E make gameplay better? Why not just lower ratios or something.... Its kind of like their resistence to lanbing formations that not 1-1-2.

It's a necessary change, and I agree with it fully. Otherwise, Ahri can feel free to miss all skillshots and still blow people up because the damage on her with just DFG+W+R was high enough to still seriously threaten squishies without hitting a single Q or E.

She get's a free DFG proc from her Charm now, and she has more counterplay options. It entirely depends on how the numbers roll out (they'll probably balance it to make hitting E slightly more damage on her full combo), but I agree with it.

The issue with just lowering ratios is that it would just make her scale worse (which isn't what she needs imo), and more dependent on her base damages (which she already kinda does), and just buffing Q damage (which is what moving ratios and base damages about would imply) has significant effects on her laning by improving her pushing/harass potential in lane. Not sure what they're going for with the passive change (is it a buff or a nerf I can't say, probably a buff but need to see numbers).
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Gearuza
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
150 Posts
October 11 2013 01:53 GMT
#2949
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/node/7431

Limited Skins on sale! (but not champ riven)
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 11 2013 01:55 GMT
#2950
charm is very hard to hit and has a long cd. it also gets maxed fairly late.

focusing on the single target burst scenario as an example of ahri op is misguided. she can burst all the squish supports she wants, but that does not make her win games. her team fighting relies on ulti repositioning and most of that team fight damage is getting nerfed along with her effective combat duration. she's already pretty lackluster late game and in team fights, now the unreliable skirmishing just makes her have no point in a lineup
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 11 2013 01:58 GMT
#2951
On October 11 2013 10:53 Gearuza wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/node/7431

Limited Skins on sale! (but not champ riven)

Who was just asking about Hockey Jax? Just gotta wait til next year lol.
It's your boy Guzma!
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 11 2013 01:58 GMT
#2952
On October 11 2013 10:53 Gearuza wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/node/7431

Limited Skins on sale! (but not champ riven)


i like how they announce it on the same day as all the nerfs so that all the sheep get distracted by the thoughts of more meaningless skins and make them forget about rito lowering the viable champ pool again/not actually solving any real issues
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
October 11 2013 02:00 GMT
#2953
Great, all my skins will be worthless now. I don't feel special anymore.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
October 11 2013 02:02 GMT
#2954
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=431796

Tell me fucking yoloQ is up on EUW or idk what ima do.
Useless wet fish.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-11 02:06:17
October 11 2013 02:02 GMT
#2955
On October 11 2013 10:53 Gearuza wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/node/7431

Limited Skins on sale! (but not champ riven)


There aren't many skins I want, but I will pay Riot infinite $$$ if they offer Champ Riven for sale.

Riot pls gimme Champ Riven code

Edit: As for the proposed changes, Ahri nerf w/ no Zed nerf is bad, Xerath changes seem ok, make him more like a magical sniper and less like a siege tank. Heimer rework I don't care about, never play as him or vs. him outside of ARAMs, and Zyra changes seem bad. Morgana changes seem bad as well, and seems indicative of how some champs Riot's made they have no clue how to balance/buff/nerf/etc.
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
October 11 2013 02:02 GMT
#2956
They better not make S2 Riven available again.

Knowing riot though, they will lol..
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 11 2013 02:03 GMT
#2957
I really feel like the reduction to Morgana's base damage should be reverted, the tradeoff of losing the MR reduction is enough. Mainly my issue is right now she already suffers from the number of mid heros that flash farm much faster than her making Pool actually not a very good waveclear as is, idk it might not even matter but I feel like the reduction was not needed.

thoughts?
Carrilord has arrived.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 11 2013 02:03 GMT
#2958
Haha. Santa Gragas!
Freeeeeeedom
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 11 2013 02:05 GMT
#2959
lol the funniest thing about this is if you bought all of the Legacy skins before they disappeared you'll essentially have gotten them all for free and can buy a shit fuck ton of other skins and stuff.

I only get RP for Haunting Nocturne, sadly.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Parametric
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1261 Posts
October 11 2013 02:05 GMT
#2960
On October 11 2013 10:58 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2013 10:53 Gearuza wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/node/7431

Limited Skins on sale! (but not champ riven)


i like how they announce it on the same day as all the nerfs so that all the sheep get distracted by the thoughts of more meaningless skins and make them forget about rito lowering the viable champ pool again/not actually solving any real issues


You're looking at it in the completely wrong way, riot is nerfing j4's BS knockup AoE and ahri while opening up skins and giving nifty limited edition borders + RP refunds to people who got them earlier. They also seem to be looking at morg.

IT'S ALL GOOD
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