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niukasu1990
Profile Joined July 2012
1007 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-22 22:35:21
September 22 2013 22:33 GMT
#1
BelLiss: 跟SKT T1那场比赛的暂停是因为小伞的鼠标和键盘突然失灵。失灵是电脑电源或者电压出现问题造成的的,并不是小伞的个人原因。暂停时选手不能进行任何交流,而且请求暂停理由必须要充分,否则俱乐部会被罚。可能说我们CHEAT的国外粉丝也因为自己的倾向性,先入为主的在想问题。

BelLiss is the translator who always translate for omg member during interview.(poor English though). She stood behind OMG during matches.

She said: The pause during the match VS SKT was because the failure of San's keyboard and mouse. This failure might be caused by the problem of power or voltage from computer, it was not San's personal reason. During the pause, the player were not allowed to talk. Moreover, the pause must be reasonable, or the club(OMG) will be punished. Maybe the fans who said we cheated was prejudiced by first impression due to bias.
Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
September 22 2013 22:35 GMT
#2
glad to know, thanks for translating
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
September 23 2013 00:55 GMT
#3
power supply affecting the mouse and keyboard over other things? color me convinced
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misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3319 Posts
September 23 2013 01:01 GMT
#4
maybe they should play like in TI, every player has an HDD where they store their windows install+game+drivers+configs. pit crew comes in, swaps hdd and keyboards for 5 players in under 2 mins and no pauses due to keyboard/mouse fail. the only pauses I recal one was a caster misclick and other was between chinese team vs TL I believe.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-23 01:36:14
September 23 2013 01:35 GMT
#5
On September 23 2013 10:01 misirlou wrote:
maybe they should play like in TI, every player has an HDD where they store their windows install+game+drivers+configs. pit crew comes in, swaps hdd and keyboards for 5 players in under 2 mins and no pauses due to keyboard/mouse fail. the only pauses I recal one was a caster misclick and other was between chinese team vs TL I believe.

I thought LoL invented that. iirc LCS studio in ESL does that for quite awhile.

edit: CSGO did that first, but indeed LCS has been doing it for a while.

Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
September 23 2013 11:44 GMT
#6
There are various posts on this subject, and if we go in detail, there is little doubt that the timings of the pauses were at least calculated on the part of OMG, even if we are to believe that the technical difficulties were indeed there. You only need to replay the movements of San to notice that there is something off, in both of the games that were brought into question.

Is it against the regulations? Perhaps not, but it is in extremely bad taste, and people really don't appreciate OMG making a habbit out of this.
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Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
September 23 2013 12:00 GMT
#7
On September 23 2013 20:44 Letmelose wrote:
There are various posts on this subject, and if we go in detail, there is little doubt that the timings of the pauses were at least calculated on the part of OMG, even if we are to believe that the technical difficulties were indeed there. You only need to replay the movements of San to notice that there is something off, in both of the games that were brought into question.

Is it against the regulations? Perhaps not, but it is in extremely bad taste, and people really don't appreciate OMG making a habbit out of this.

but how do you communicate when to pause?
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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-23 12:08:31
September 23 2013 12:08 GMT
#8
On September 23 2013 10:01 misirlou wrote:
maybe they should play like in TI, every player has an HDD where they store their windows install+game+drivers+configs. pit crew comes in, swaps hdd and keyboards for 5 players in under 2 mins and no pauses due to keyboard/mouse fail. the only pauses I recal one was a caster misclick and other was between chinese team vs TL I believe.

Finol the Pause man who accidentaly paused and then unpaused without saying anything, haha, was hilarious.
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Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
September 23 2013 12:10 GMT
#9
On September 23 2013 21:00 Chexx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 20:44 Letmelose wrote:
There are various posts on this subject, and if we go in detail, there is little doubt that the timings of the pauses were at least calculated on the part of OMG, even if we are to believe that the technical difficulties were indeed there. You only need to replay the movements of San to notice that there is something off, in both of the games that were brought into question.

Is it against the regulations? Perhaps not, but it is in extremely bad taste, and people really don't appreciate OMG making a habbit out of this.

but how do you communicate when to pause?


I personally believe that in both of the cases, San took a couple of seconds to spectate what was going on, and paused what he thought would be the most advantageous timing for his team, regardless of what else went on during those games. Pauses and technical difficulties are much more common in the Chinese scene, and it has become a second nature for some of these players to get some advantages out of these situations.

If you have a problem, pause the game without trying to gain something on the side. That's all I'm asking.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-23 12:15:35
September 23 2013 12:15 GMT
#10
On September 23 2013 21:10 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 21:00 Chexx wrote:
On September 23 2013 20:44 Letmelose wrote:
There are various posts on this subject, and if we go in detail, there is little doubt that the timings of the pauses were at least calculated on the part of OMG, even if we are to believe that the technical difficulties were indeed there. You only need to replay the movements of San to notice that there is something off, in both of the games that were brought into question.

Is it against the regulations? Perhaps not, but it is in extremely bad taste, and people really don't appreciate OMG making a habbit out of this.

but how do you communicate when to pause?


I personally believe that in both of the cases, San took a couple of seconds to spectate what was going on, and paused what he thought would be the most advantageous timing for his team, regardless of what else went on during those games. Pauses and technical difficulties are much more common in the Chinese scene, and it has become a second nature for some of these players to get some advantages out of these situations.

If you have a problem, pause the game without trying to gain something on the side. That's all I'm asking.


i think faker thought san would pause to try to get an advantage for cool, so he tried to move to make san think he was pausing for cool but REALLY faker would be the one getting an advantage out of it, but then faker got outplayed in SPITE of that and then got killed, but the pause actually benefited piglet cause it let him aim the ezreal ult better

see i can throw out stupid claims with no backup too!!!!
TranslatorBaa!
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
September 23 2013 12:20 GMT
#11
omg did this pausing at critical moments thing in other games too, including the chinese qualifiers.
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Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
September 23 2013 12:22 GMT
#12
On September 23 2013 21:15 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 21:10 Letmelose wrote:
On September 23 2013 21:00 Chexx wrote:
On September 23 2013 20:44 Letmelose wrote:
There are various posts on this subject, and if we go in detail, there is little doubt that the timings of the pauses were at least calculated on the part of OMG, even if we are to believe that the technical difficulties were indeed there. You only need to replay the movements of San to notice that there is something off, in both of the games that were brought into question.

Is it against the regulations? Perhaps not, but it is in extremely bad taste, and people really don't appreciate OMG making a habbit out of this.

but how do you communicate when to pause?


I personally believe that in both of the cases, San took a couple of seconds to spectate what was going on, and paused what he thought would be the most advantageous timing for his team, regardless of what else went on during those games. Pauses and technical difficulties are much more common in the Chinese scene, and it has become a second nature for some of these players to get some advantages out of these situations.

If you have a problem, pause the game without trying to gain something on the side. That's all I'm asking.


i think faker thought san would pause to try to get an advantage for cool, so he tried to move to make san think he was pausing for cool but REALLY faker would be the one getting an advantage out of it, but then faker got outplayed in SPITE of that and then got killed, but the pause actually benefited piglet cause it let him aim the ezreal ult better

see i can throw out stupid claims with no backup too!!!!


Stop being defensive, take a close look at what San does several seconds before the pause in both of the games.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
September 23 2013 12:24 GMT
#13
have you considered that what he does looks weird because he was having technical difficulties...?
TranslatorBaa!
scrubtastic
Profile Joined May 2009
1166 Posts
September 23 2013 12:25 GMT
#14
If I were Riot:

No pause for keyboard/mouse failure. A progamer has to be fucking responsible for his/her own equipment. If shit happens, sucks to be you; it should be rare enough that your equipment has a legitimate failure.

A shame there's no real good way I can think of to incorporate fighter game tournament/EVO style penalties for pausing in a LoL game. Pausing in EVO for equipment failure gets penalized due to how disruptive the pausing is, no matter how legitimate the cause is. Strategic pausing is impossible since pausing = you lose the round and if you don't have an immediate equipment replacement you lose the match.

If I were OMG:

Fucking pause when there isn't something critical happening.

It doesn't matter how legitimate it is, if you pause at a critical moment MULTIPLE FUCKING TIMES and don't pause at all when you are winning/when nothing is happening people will cry "foul" and to be honest I find it to be fucking poor taste to try to seek an advantage when pausing.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
September 23 2013 12:33 GMT
#15
Have keyboard / mouse signal monitoring programs rigged to all stations and monitored in the production?
niukasu1990
Profile Joined July 2012
1007 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-23 12:34:30
September 23 2013 12:33 GMT
#16
On September 23 2013 21:22 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 21:15 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On September 23 2013 21:10 Letmelose wrote:
On September 23 2013 21:00 Chexx wrote:
On September 23 2013 20:44 Letmelose wrote:
There are various posts on this subject, and if we go in detail, there is little doubt that the timings of the pauses were at least calculated on the part of OMG, even if we are to believe that the technical difficulties were indeed there. You only need to replay the movements of San to notice that there is something off, in both of the games that were brought into question.

Is it against the regulations? Perhaps not, but it is in extremely bad taste, and people really don't appreciate OMG making a habbit out of this.

but how do you communicate when to pause?


I personally believe that in both of the cases, San took a couple of seconds to spectate what was going on, and paused what he thought would be the most advantageous timing for his team, regardless of what else went on during those games. Pauses and technical difficulties are much more common in the Chinese scene, and it has become a second nature for some of these players to get some advantages out of these situations.

If you have a problem, pause the game without trying to gain something on the side. That's all I'm asking.


i think faker thought san would pause to try to get an advantage for cool, so he tried to move to make san think he was pausing for cool but REALLY faker would be the one getting an advantage out of it, but then faker got outplayed in SPITE of that and then got killed, but the pause actually benefited piglet cause it let him aim the ezreal ult better

see i can throw out stupid claims with no backup too!!!!


Stop being defensive, take a close look at what San does several seconds before the pause in both of the games.


did nothing.
niukasu1990
Profile Joined July 2012
1007 Posts
September 23 2013 12:34 GMT
#17
On September 23 2013 21:33 niukasu1990 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 21:22 Letmelose wrote:
On September 23 2013 21:15 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On September 23 2013 21:10 Letmelose wrote:
On September 23 2013 21:00 Chexx wrote:
On September 23 2013 20:44 Letmelose wrote:
There are various posts on this subject, and if we go in detail, there is little doubt that the timings of the pauses were at least calculated on the part of OMG, even if we are to believe that the technical difficulties were indeed there. You only need to replay the movements of San to notice that there is something off, in both of the games that were brought into question.

Is it against the regulations? Perhaps not, but it is in extremely bad taste, and people really don't appreciate OMG making a habbit out of this.

but how do you communicate when to pause?


I personally believe that in both of the cases, San took a couple of seconds to spectate what was going on, and paused what he thought would be the most advantageous timing for his team, regardless of what else went on during those games. Pauses and technical difficulties are much more common in the Chinese scene, and it has become a second nature for some of these players to get some advantages out of these situations.

If you have a problem, pause the game without trying to gain something on the side. That's all I'm asking.


i think faker thought san would pause to try to get an advantage for cool, so he tried to move to make san think he was pausing for cool but REALLY faker would be the one getting an advantage out of it, but then faker got outplayed in SPITE of that and then got killed, but the pause actually benefited piglet cause it let him aim the ezreal ult better

see i can throw out stupid claims with no backup too!!!!


Stop being defensive, take a close look at what San does several seconds before the pause in both of the games.


did nothing.

Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
September 23 2013 12:34 GMT
#18
On September 23 2013 21:24 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
have you considered that what he does looks weird because he was having technical difficulties...?


Piglet fired his ultimate before the pause, by the way, you should really check your facts out before defending your teams. Further more San recalled, then did nothing, not even buying a single item for 17 seconds if you include the moment he decided to recall. Did he really take 17 seconds to realize that something wrong after laning? If something felt wrong before the recall, wouldn't it make sense to pause the game right away? What was he doing all that time? Is it a pure coincidence that his pause was in sync with Ahri's auto-attack animation, and "luckily" cancelled it?

What was San doing during those 17 seconds? He wasn't even farming, or even buying items, and if something went wrong, he would have felt it before he recalled when he was busy farming and harassing. If something was wrong all the time, and there were no other incentives, San would have paused without waiting for 17 seconds, and if something went wrong after the recall, I'm not sure how he could have known considering he was doing nothing but sitting still in his base for the exact few seconds when the mid-lane battle occured.

You can rationalize it anyway you want, but it was a distasteful pause that I'm almost certain was calculated on the part of San to some degree. The question of whether it made a difference or not does not matter, since the intent was malicious to begin with.
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pureCacu
Profile Joined September 2013
Korea (South)2 Posts
September 23 2013 12:38 GMT
#19
you can Pause when your keyboard and mouse isn't working with your keybord. makes sense
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
September 23 2013 12:43 GMT
#20
I wasn't even going make a big deal out of this, but if you're going out with an agenda and pretend to put a weird spin on what were some clearly cringe-worthy moments that only didn't make much of a splash because no Western teams were involved, I'm going to bring you down.

Don't bother trying to sugar-coat what any level-headed person would judge as something to be cautious against. Seriously, it makes you look pitiful.
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