EPTOn September 08 2013 11:41 Itsmedudeman wrote:
It's pretty dumb group stages are only bo1 with each team
It's pretty dumb group stages are only bo1 with each team
bo2 actually
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niukasu1990
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 08 2013 11:38 niukasu1990 wrote: Within the current 'Seed' format, I think form a group for them is the best solution to avoid strongest seed team meet SKT. They don't need to form groups. Since they already used All-stars to push EU out of getting seeded, why wouldn't they just re-use the All-Stars results to order the seeded teams? Oh right, because it doesn't favor NA, which is the only sensible reason for everything about this stupid format. | ||
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niukasu1990
1007 Posts
On September 08 2013 11:45 TheYango wrote: They don't need to form groups. Since they already used All-stars to push EU out of getting seeded, why wouldn't they just re-use the All-Stars results to order the seeded teams? Oh right, because it doesn't favor NA, which is the only sensible reason for everything about this stupid format. It is necessary because we don't know which team should be place in a higher order for Gama Bear or C9. And I don't think Najin Sword deserved 1st pick. Actually i think Sword is the worst team among the seed team | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On September 08 2013 11:45 TheYango wrote: They don't need to form groups. Since they already used All-stars to push EU out of getting seeded, why wouldn't they just re-use the All-Stars results to order the seeded teams? Oh right, because it doesn't favor NA, which is the only sensible reason for everything about this stupid format. Yeah, the whole point of "seeding" people into quarters is to ensure that an NA team is seen out of group stages. Pretty dumb, but... whatever. | ||
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SimulatedAnneal
765 Posts
On September 08 2013 11:09 niukasu1990 wrote: I think the 4 seed team in worlds should play a round robin too, so that the highest rank from that seed group gets a chance to pick their opponent from group stage. In the present format, it is too unfair for a seed team to get SKT as their opponents. In the meantime, it avoid a team like TSM in the last year play 2 games and say goodbye. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On September 08 2013 11:35 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: akali q? kinda? + Show Spoiler + ok i get your point, but glitch implies the game is malfunctioning, which it isn't, just poor foresight on riot's part? Rengar's Q was fixed at one point. So that you couldn't instantly double Q at level 1. The cooldown is supposed to now start when you autoattack, not when you cast Q. Maybe they reintroduced this bug though when they reintroduced the Q glitching bug on Rengar. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On September 08 2013 11:50 SimulatedAnneal wrote: https://twitter.com/RiotMagus/status/376191552550211586 I have a great idea for making a bigger tournament with more robust group play. Lets give 3 seeds to each of the 5 regions and 1 "international wild card". Then we can seed the teams based on regional standing into groups and draft a playoff bracket out of those groups. You can also make an exhibition match not have extra meaning and just play it for show. You also wouldn't have random bias of extra seeds to various regions for no real reason. This is definitely a new idea that has never been done before in any other LAN tourney or traditional sports season. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
On September 08 2013 12:07 obesechicken13 wrote: Rengar's Q was fixed at one point. So that you couldn't instantly double Q at level 1. The cooldown is supposed to now start when you autoattack, not when you cast Q. Maybe they reintroduced this bug though when they reintroduced the Q glitching bug on Rengar. my friend in plat 2 says u can also use ur other abilities twice as well not just the q apparently | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
The Nami play at 33:10... wow. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 08 2013 11:49 niukasu1990 wrote: It is necessary because we don't know which team should be place in a higher order for Gama Bear or C9. And I don't think Najin Sword deserved 1st pick. Actually i think Sword is the worst team among the seed team Najin Sword is actually the only seeded team with significant big LAN Bo5 experience, which brings them up a notch for me compared to the other seeded teams (or rather, brings down the other 3 teams in my mind). Granted, I say this assuming OMG is the 1st seed for China. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On September 08 2013 12:36 Sufficiency wrote: As Rengar... if I R then Q (no autos), does it break my stealth? Why would you press Q before you jump on them instead of jumping on them then Qing and getting an additional auto attack in in the exact same period of time? <_< So answer is I have no idea, and you shouldn't care anyway because that a shitty innefficient way to play. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On September 08 2013 12:36 Sufficiency wrote: As Rengar... if I R then Q (no autos), does it break my stealth? yea but I think R after Q is what puts Q on cd for the "bug/trick" not 100% | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On September 08 2013 12:38 TheYango wrote: Najin Sword is actually the only seeded team with significant big LAN Bo5 experience, which brings them up a notch for me compared to the other seeded teams (or rather, brings down the other 3 teams in my mind). Granted, I say this assuming OMG is the 1st seed for China. NJS is a dark horse. They're most definitely better than Blaze at this point and well... how many people would say that Blaze wouldn't be favored against world teams 2 months ago? I think they're definitely worse than KT B and Ozone at this point, but pretty close to Frost. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On September 08 2013 12:42 iCanada wrote: Why would you press Q before you jump on them instead of jumping on them then Qing and getting an additional auto attack in in the exact same period of time? <_< So answer is I have no idea, and you shouldn't care anyway because that a shitty innefficient way to play. I was thinking Q before I hit 5 Ferocity, so after I leap and Q'ed auto I am pretty much at full Ferocity again so I can Empowered Q. I don't know, today I played him for the first time (free week!). It was just a thought. I am probably doing the entire thing wrong anyway. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 08 2013 12:11 xes wrote: I have a great idea for making a bigger tournament with more robust group play. Lets give 3 seeds to each of the 5 regions and 1 "international wild card". Then we can seed the teams based on regional standing into groups and draft a playoff bracket out of those groups. You can also make an exhibition match not have extra meaning and just play it for show. You also wouldn't have random bias of extra seeds to various regions for no real reason. This is definitely a new idea that has never been done before in any other LAN tourney or traditional sports season. But see, that wouldn't guarantee an NA team in the bracket stage and almost guarantee a Western team in the Ro4. | ||
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Letmelose
Korea (South)3227 Posts
On September 08 2013 11:49 niukasu1990 wrote: It is necessary because we don't know which team should be place in a higher order for Gama Bear or C9. And I don't think Najin Sword deserved 1st pick. Actually i think Sword is the worst team among the seed team It is not necessary because there's no justification for it, other than wanting to have every region being represented in the round of eight for entertainment purposes, rather than for competitive measures. In fact, the format further complicates matters because of the round of eight representatives have such varying strengths, that the risk of top level teams starting from the group stages "tweaking" their results in order to form brackets that are more favourable for them, led to the round of eight brackets being decided by a random draw. Riot has already decided that they rather have some of the teams have their entire tournament run be decided by a random draw, and sacrifice some of the teams have their entire Season 3 World Championship experience end after just two games, rather than risk having some of the more "popular" regions not being represented in the round of eight. That is all there is to it. There are justifications behind every single decision they make, but it just so happens that a lot of it are not due to competitive reasons. I'd argue that Najin Black Sword, if they somehow fix their mid-lane problems, would be one of the strongest teams in the entire tournament. The statement that they are the weakest out of the four seeds has no basis in judgement, in their only cross-regional LAN tournament, Gamania Bears lost to Xenics Storm, a team that finished 13th~16th overall if you take in their OGN/NLB performances, as opposed to Najin Black Sword, who finished 5th overall. It just doesn't add up. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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TheYango
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