On September 08 2013 12:57 TheYango wrote:
You mean like The International? Genius!
You mean like The International? Genius!
Similar, but not double elimination.
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On September 08 2013 12:57 TheYango wrote: You mean like The International? Genius! Similar, but not double elimination. | ||
Letmelose
Korea (South)3227 Posts
On September 08 2013 12:56 Itsmedudeman wrote: If they want all regions to be represented they could have group stages and an upper bracket/lower bracket with the higher seeds of each group receiving a bye while the bottom teams have to play amongst themselves in the playoffs. No, that's not what Riot wants. They want all regions to be represented at the latter stages of the tournament, no matter how flawed the system is. A tournament dominated by the most competitive teams during the finishing stages is the last thing they seem to want at the moment. | ||
Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
What this means is that when you're playing game 3 of a Bo3 or a game 4/game 5 of a Bo5, it's not just about which team is more skilled anymore. Because the skill difference between the two teams will be close enough that it won't just be about which team is better at playing the GAME, but also which team is better at playing a SERIES. Which team holds up better under the pressure and mindgames of a BoX--because those factors will outweigh plain skill when it comes down to the wire. We simply can't know how teams like C9, Gama Bears, and OMG will perform under those circumstances, because they haven't been under those conditions that often. But it's not all that common that a team with no big LAN Bo5 experience is suddenly amazing at it from the start. It's far more often that promising teams/players choke under pressure because they don't have the experience handling it. This is actually for me one of the things that makes SKT T1 such an amazing team. Not only just that they are good at the game--but that when faced with a team like KT B that is both skilled and experienced in big series, they were able to overcome the ridiculous pressure of being down 0-2 in a Bo5 with with their backs against the wall. That demonstrates an insane level of mental fortitude and desire to win. | ||
wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 08 2013 13:01 Letmelose wrote: Show nested quote + On September 08 2013 12:56 Itsmedudeman wrote: If they want all regions to be represented they could have group stages and an upper bracket/lower bracket with the higher seeds of each group receiving a bye while the bottom teams have to play amongst themselves in the playoffs. No, that's not what Riot wants. They want all regions to be represented at the latter stages of the tournament, no matter how flawed the system is. A tournament dominated by the most competitive teams during the finishing stages is the last thing they seem to want at the moment. This is why I hate NBA playoffs. | ||
Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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TheYango
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
Homme is also a questionable factor. The patch doesn't favor him similar to insec. | ||
cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 08 2013 13:37 zulu_nation8 wrote: I feel like the only two NA players who are world class are meteos and lemonnation, but if their carries fail it won't matter. Haven't seen enough of EU LCS to comment. If you gunna put lemonnation on there then xpecial deserves to be up there too. | ||
Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On September 08 2013 13:39 wei2coolman wrote: Show nested quote + On September 08 2013 13:37 zulu_nation8 wrote: I feel like the only two NA players who are world class are meteos and lemonnation, but if their carries fail it won't matter. Haven't seen enough of EU LCS to comment. If you gunna put lemonnation on there then xpecial deserves to be up there too. As much as I respect Xpecial's play for TSM, I feel like he isn't incredibly consistent lately. He's definitely shown that he can compete at a world level when he's on point though. | ||
Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On September 08 2013 13:46 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Show nested quote + On September 08 2013 13:39 wei2coolman wrote: On September 08 2013 13:37 zulu_nation8 wrote: I feel like the only two NA players who are world class are meteos and lemonnation, but if their carries fail it won't matter. Haven't seen enough of EU LCS to comment. If you gunna put lemonnation on there then xpecial deserves to be up there too. As much as I respect Xpecial's play for TSM, I feel like he isn't incredibly consistent lately. He's definitely shown that he can compete at a world level when he's on point though. Hai and Meteos have great synergy, and it makes Hai look better than he is. I think Hai is close to being world caliber. Not quite. | ||
Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On September 08 2013 13:46 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Show nested quote + On September 08 2013 13:39 wei2coolman wrote: On September 08 2013 13:37 zulu_nation8 wrote: I feel like the only two NA players who are world class are meteos and lemonnation, but if their carries fail it won't matter. Haven't seen enough of EU LCS to comment. If you gunna put lemonnation on there then xpecial deserves to be up there too. As much as I respect Xpecial's play for TSM, I feel like he isn't incredibly consistent lately. He's definitely shown that he can compete at a world level when he's on point though. I don't understand how lemonnation is world class compared to Xpecial. Yeah, his team is really good at early game decision making and he's a part of it, but he's not the whole brains behind C9. Like Meteos said it consists of him, lemonnation and Hai. Individually though I don't think he's anywhere close to Xpecial yet. | ||
GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On September 08 2013 13:48 Zdrastochye wrote: Show nested quote + On September 08 2013 13:46 GhandiEAGLE wrote: On September 08 2013 13:39 wei2coolman wrote: On September 08 2013 13:37 zulu_nation8 wrote: I feel like the only two NA players who are world class are meteos and lemonnation, but if their carries fail it won't matter. Haven't seen enough of EU LCS to comment. If you gunna put lemonnation on there then xpecial deserves to be up there too. As much as I respect Xpecial's play for TSM, I feel like he isn't incredibly consistent lately. He's definitely shown that he can compete at a world level when he's on point though. Hai and Meteos have great synergy, and it makes Hai look better than he is. I think Hai is close to being world caliber. Not quite. Hai also gets a lot more respect in NA than I feel he will get at worlds. Korea seems really confident from their interviews when it comes to foreign competition, I don't think they care all that much about the record C9 has left in NA. | ||
Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On September 08 2013 13:52 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Show nested quote + On September 08 2013 13:48 Zdrastochye wrote: On September 08 2013 13:46 GhandiEAGLE wrote: On September 08 2013 13:39 wei2coolman wrote: On September 08 2013 13:37 zulu_nation8 wrote: I feel like the only two NA players who are world class are meteos and lemonnation, but if their carries fail it won't matter. Haven't seen enough of EU LCS to comment. If you gunna put lemonnation on there then xpecial deserves to be up there too. As much as I respect Xpecial's play for TSM, I feel like he isn't incredibly consistent lately. He's definitely shown that he can compete at a world level when he's on point though. Hai and Meteos have great synergy, and it makes Hai look better than he is. I think Hai is close to being world caliber. Not quite. Hai also gets a lot more respect in NA than I feel he will get at worlds. Korea seems really confident from their interviews when it comes to foreign competition, I don't think they care all that much about the record C9 has left in NA. They're aware of the record, but they don't think of it as a sign that C9 comes in as a favored team. Personally I think SKT T1's style will run all over them. C9 plays very similarly to KT B except KT B's players are better at laning and Meteos doesn't give much attention to his lanes. | ||
Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On September 08 2013 13:52 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Show nested quote + On September 08 2013 13:48 Zdrastochye wrote: On September 08 2013 13:46 GhandiEAGLE wrote: On September 08 2013 13:39 wei2coolman wrote: On September 08 2013 13:37 zulu_nation8 wrote: I feel like the only two NA players who are world class are meteos and lemonnation, but if their carries fail it won't matter. Haven't seen enough of EU LCS to comment. If you gunna put lemonnation on there then xpecial deserves to be up there too. As much as I respect Xpecial's play for TSM, I feel like he isn't incredibly consistent lately. He's definitely shown that he can compete at a world level when he's on point though. Hai and Meteos have great synergy, and it makes Hai look better than he is. I think Hai is close to being world caliber. Not quite. Hai also gets a lot more respect in NA than I feel he will get at worlds. Korea seems really confident from their interviews when it comes to foreign competition, I don't think they care all that much about the record C9 has left in NA. Nor should anyone else. When you're at worlds your records of playoffs in your region don't matter. | ||
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