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Chemiczny84
Poland458 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 30 2013 00:39 wei2coolman wrote: "winning junglers", obviously winning junglers going to have WAYYYY more gold (due to global objective gold being the major difference in gold differential) Also the fact that when a team is winning, they have more map control and farming space, meaning it's easier for the jungler to find farm. Likewise the jungler gets more TIME to farm when their lanes are winning and they don't have to be as proactive. In fact, I would argue that the statistics for LOSING junglers would actually be more meaningful, because it is more indicative of 1) how much priority teams give to junglers when farm is scarce, and 2) how much teams expect junglers to prioritize lanes over themselves when lanes are losing. It's like the exact same thing that happened at TI3 when people were like "the winning teams gave more farm to their supports!"--well no, not necessarily, just winning games tend to involve enough map control for the winning team to get everyone farmed. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On September 30 2013 01:33 TheYango wrote: Also the fact that when a team is winning, they have more map control and farming space, meaning it's easier for the jungler to find farm. Likewise the jungler gets more TIME to farm when their lanes are winning and they don't have to be as proactive. In fact, I would argue that the statistics for LOSING junglers would actually be more meaningful, because it is more indicative of 1) how much priority teams give to junglers when farm is scarce, and 2) how much teams expect junglers to prioritize lanes over themselves when lanes are losing. It's like the exact same thing that happened at TI3 when people were like "the winning teams gave more farm to their supports!"--well no, not necessarily, just winning games tend to involve enough map control for the winning team to get everyone farmed. TL;DR: Correlation does not imply causation. I concur. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On September 30 2013 01:33 TheYango wrote: Also the fact that when a team is winning, they have more map control and farming space, meaning it's easier for the jungler to find farm. Likewise the jungler gets more TIME to farm when their lanes are winning and they don't have to be as proactive. In fact, I would argue that the statistics for LOSING junglers would actually be more meaningful, because it is more indicative of 1) how much priority teams give to junglers when farm is scarce, and 2) how much teams expect junglers to prioritize lanes over themselves when lanes are losing. It's like the exact same thing that happened at TI3 when people were like "the winning teams gave more farm to their supports!"--well no, not necessarily, just winning games tend to involve enough map control for the winning team to get everyone farmed. But, but, Akke and EGM, they always so farm! | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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NpG)Explosive
France994 Posts
On September 30 2013 01:26 Chemiczny84 wrote: just transfer to EUNE, it's stable most of the time ;P I made a new account on eune an hour ago and I can see from my first games that I'm not the only ones. I managed to play two games and now it seems to have some problems as well. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35165 Posts
On September 29 2013 23:43 TheRabidDeer wrote: All this talk of supports makes me wonder if I am doing support lux wrong. Granted its not high MMR, but whenever I get stuck in a "support" role I rush CDR while trying to have like ~3 wards up. Better CDR lets me shield more and deal more damage. Well, Lux isn't a good support, even on the fringe case. So there's that. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On September 30 2013 02:04 Gahlo wrote: Well, Lux isn't a good support, even on the fringe case. So there's that. Anyone is a good support if you're a man. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 30 2013 02:04 Gahlo wrote: Well, Lux isn't a good support, even on the fringe case. So there's that. Wut? Lux support is so awesome. On September 30 2013 02:05 Requizen wrote: Anyone is a good support if you're a man. Not teemo. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Play Zyra. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On September 30 2013 02:05 Requizen wrote: Anyone is a good support if you're a man. Especially warwick. | ||
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
On September 30 2013 02:07 wei2coolman wrote: Wut? Lux support is so awesome. Not teemo. Wei2 confirmed for lacking manliness. Clearly not a believer in the church of Lovelin. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On September 30 2013 02:10 Haiq343 wrote: Wei2 confirmed for lacking manliness. Clearly not a believer in the church of Lovelin. He probably doesn't even do the daily dose of tower dive. | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
Are there any other (specifically) Chinese/Korean junglers with a similar style as Meteos? | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 30 2013 02:29 sung_moon wrote: Finally getting a chance to catch some of the quarters (Imma watch VODS of semis later), but damn Meteos jungle style is so fun/interesting to watch imo. Refreshing to see imo rather than the heavy gank/camp style and/or + Mobi boots style. Are there any other (specifically) Chinese/Korean junglers with a similar style as Meteos? No one else in the world has Meteos's style. It's style that requires sacrifice in lane selection. | ||
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Zizoz
United States232 Posts
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On September 30 2013 02:04 Gahlo wrote: Well, Lux isn't a good support, even on the fringe case. So there's that. What? Shes awesome. 300+hp shield every 6 seconds, crazy burst to open with and decent control | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
On September 30 2013 02:29 sung_moon wrote: Finally getting a chance to catch some of the quarters (Imma watch VODS of semis later), but damn Meteos jungle style is so fun/interesting to watch imo. Refreshing to see imo rather than the heavy gank/camp style and/or + Mobi boots style. Are there any other (specifically) Chinese/Korean junglers with a similar style as Meteos? No because its an awful style that crumbles against competent laners... | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On September 30 2013 03:09 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: No because its an awful style that crumbles against competent laners... Tabe likes it ;-; | ||
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